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More appropriately, the Apple guys don't/didn't care about Sounddiver. :) ----- Original Message ----- From: <grove@zeta.org.au> To: <sounddiver-users@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 4:08 PM Subject: [SoundDiver] Re: THOUGHTS FROM AND OLDIE BUT A NEWBIE TO THIS LIST >> Michael Haydn, the author of SoundDiver, AMT protocol and Logic >> Control, said long long time ago there was some system limitation >> in >> OS X that prevented Autolink from working properly. You might check >> the archives for 2002 or 2003 if interested. > > > There is nothing in OSX stopping anything of the sort. C code is C code > and so on. It's just that Sounddiver is such a crappily written > application no one probably could be bothered to recode it. > > There are many things in UNIX which allow one app to talk to another, > there are also lots of glue apps like Perl, shell scripts, TCL and so on. > I do not think there is any such limitation. Microsoft makes Excel > talk to Word and Powerpoint, for example (no matter what you think of MS). > > I put the reason as to why the OSX Autolink was never done was because > plainly the Logic guys didn't care about Sounddiver and just couldn't > be bothered. All it would take is an XML DTD, a parser and a script > launcher to read in/out the variables - in a very general sense. > > If the source code was made Open Source, someone would've found a way, > by now - there is always a way! > > The truth is, SD is a dead obsolete product that is practically > abandonware, but is on life support for whatever convoluted reason > the developers give this week - Just like Unitor Control, which > we really can't live without if you own a Unitor or AMT-8! > > > rachel > > -- > Rachel Polanskis Kingswood, Greater Western Sydney, > Australia > grove@zeta.org.au http://www.zeta.org.au/~grove/grove.html > The price of greatness is responsibility. > > ------------------------------------ > > ________________________________________________________________________ > SoundDiver Users Group - new forums! http://logic-users.org/forums/SD > - To UNSUBSCRIBE: email sounddiver-users-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > - Search the entire archive: http://logic-users.org/forums/SD/searchYahoo! > Groups Links > > > > ------------------------------------

Out of interest, I have installed the last OSX Sounddiver Beta on my MacBook Pro running Leopard and it's all working pretty well. I have been using Galaxy for years on my OS9 machine for the occasional patch librarian stuff. Sounddiver seems quite good, if a little over complex at first. It's a real pity that Apple have suspended development on this. I imagine the Autolink feature would be of great use to many people. It's a pity. functionality similar to Opcodes system of OMS for MIDI setups Galaxy for Patch Libraries and Vision for sequencing used to work well. How is that in 1995 I had all my modules perfectly described in Galaxy and subscribed to Vision so all my hardware synths banks and names came up correctly in my seqeuncer without me having to type a single letter, and yet in 2008 in Logic Pro 8 I still have to type it all in manually, or copy and paste it from somewhere. Surely Apple could integrate some of Sounddiver into Logic to save us the hassle of this. Sometimes the good ideas die young, a la Avid/Digidesign AudioVision.... I'm sure Apple doesn't care. They're trying to make all hardware synths obsolete so why would they want to support the past? After playing around with Logic 8 for a while and initially being pretty impressed by the built in softsynths, my opinion is still that the sound quality / presence / warmth and immediate no-fuss playability of hardware synths still cannot be duplicated by softsynths. Or at least not the ones built into Logic, though they're interesting on their own. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - VINTAGE SYNTH DEALER - We buy/sell/trade Many rare & hard to find items available. If you're looking for gear, please ask to receive our email newsletters! -Reply only to minime123@onebox.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ------------------------------------

--- In sounddiver-users@yahoogroups.com, Armen Zohrabian <aziomatic@...> wrote: > > I love this website. If it doesn't work out for you, at least you'll have plenty of shareware to play with. > http://www.dontcrack.com/freeware/downloads.php/id/1534/software/SoundDi ver/ > ------------------------------------

Please help me I need the Roland VK-8m adaptation; I have SoundDiver 3.0.5.2 for Windows. Is it possible? Is the adaptation only availble in SoundDiver 3.1 beta for Mac OSX? Is it compatible with SoundDiver for Windows? Thanks! Paolo ------------------------------------

Hi..I know it's old tech....but I would like to get.trade.etc..patches for the Roland GR-1,,,,I know there are at least 3 different liraries of patches for it. I have lots of patches for various synths, drum machines...in the galaxy format. ------------------------------------

--- In sounddiver-users@yahoogroups.com, "AQ" <forums@...> wrote: > > Message posted by AQ <fotosmex@...>: > > Hi Andy, > i dug up this old thread and was wondering if there was any chance you could pass the SD manual (ENGLISH VERSION) to me as well. I am new to SD and I am having issues that would probably be easily resolved or explained with a quick read of the manual. I am running the latest public beta of SD for mac and none of the HELP features actually display any info. You can find the manual here: http://synth.stromeko.net/Downloads.html > > Thanks, > Alex > ------------------------------------

--- In sounddiver-users@yahoogroups.com, "Tristan" <t_natalini@...> wrote: > > --- In sounddiver-users@yahoogroups.com, "AQ" <forums@> wrote: > > > > Message posted by AQ <fotosmex@>: > > > > Hi Andy, > > i dug up this old thread and was wondering if there was any chance > you could pass the SD manual (ENGLISH VERSION) to me as well. I am > new to SD and I am having issues that would probably be easily > resolved or explained with a quick read of the manual. I am running > the latest public beta of SD for mac and none of the HELP features > actually display any info. > > You can find the manual here: http://synth.stromeko.net/Downloads.html > > > > > Thanks, > > Alex > > > Tristan, Great thanks! synergeezer ------------------------------------

is there any one out there willing to share the original mbox driver or the usb asio audio driver ??

hello again is there anyone who has a mbox driver that will work with sonar 7 producer & will allow me to use multi processing engine 2 cpu`s together without locking up & crashing ?

Hi, If you can't redownload the corrupt file, I think you can try an utility called Advanced Zip Repair to repair your Zip file. It works rather well for my corrupt Zip files. Its web address is http://www.datanumen.com/azr/ It is not free, but worth trying when necessary. Alan

--- In sounddiver-users@yahoogroups.com, Ingo Debus <debus@...> wrote: > > > Am 16.03.2008 um 21:40 schrieb michaelkoly: > > > But it doesn't seem to be here. Could anyone help me, I'm trying to > > get > > some sounds for my computerless brother who keeps gryping about the > > same old sounds on his SY77. > > Just downloaded it without any problems. I went to > www.groups.yahoo.com > then signed in, went to the SoundDiver user's group, then to the > files section, then to the SoundDiver library folder, then to the > Yamaha folder. Clicked on the entry and the download started right away. > It seems to be a sit file, so you need StuffIt expander to unpack it. > > Ingo > hello and thank you for that explanation!!! now for the next step (for example the k2xxx.sit file) after it is "unstuffed" it becomes k2xxx.lib where can you read this file at, so to be able to import it into the kurzweil??? thanks in advance joe ------------------------------------

jkrz1985 wrote: > > hello and thank you for that explanation!!! > now for the next step (for example the k2xxx.sit file) > after it is "unstuffed" it becomes k2xxx.lib > where can you read this file at, so to be able to import it into the > kurzweil??? > thanks in advance > joe > > Its a Sound Diver library file. You open it in Sound Diver's library then send it to the synth. -- Chris http://www.monotrematamusic.com http://www.myspace.com/monotremata http://www.descentrecords.com ------------------------------------

--- In sounddiver-users@yahoogroups.com, Chris Coccia <descentrecords@...> wrote: > Its a Sound Diver library file. You open it in Sound Diver's library > then send it to the synth. > > -- > Chris > > http://www.monotrematamusic.com > http://www.myspace.com/monotremata > http://www.descentrecords.com > thank you for the response unfortunately i wasn't very clear with my last post i have the k2xxx.lib in the library section of sounddiver but it looks like a list without any information behind it 983 items in black since i don't have a manual or help files i'm really just guessing as to how to get it to the k2000 it is connected to a PC thru midi in/out to usb and it is definitely seen by sounddiver i tried "send midi" under "files" and "audition" no luck when i look at other library sets they are in gold with other "stuff" in columns beside just a name can someone help also is there a way to make a disk for sounddiver my version 3 is screaming that i have only 4 days left put in disk to reauthorize? please help as always thanks again!!!!!!!! joe ------------------------------------

I posted the file Kxxx.lib to this group a year or so ago. I just tried to load it back into my Kurzweil K2500RS without success. There is probably something wrong with the file. I am sorry that I submitted it to the Sound Diver User Group files section without first checking that I could reload it back into my Kurzweil. Fish ------------------------------------

Please remove K2xxx.zip which is a non-working Kurzweil lib file. I have posted all these sounds and more in the files section of the Yahoo Group KurzSounds. The file is called K2500RS PRGMS- PATCH FARM. The file contains 19 .KRZ format banks that you load onto floppy disks from your PC. Then use the floppy disks to load the sounds to your Kurzweil K2000 or Kurzweil K2500. Fish ------------------------------------

Hey, Did you manage to find anything for the Yamaha P250? I have one too, and can't find anything on the Internet - particularly a patch library that can be used in Logic. Cheers, Stefan

Hi All, Is this program still available for purchase? Only the windows version available? I actually have both XP and Mac OS X machines. What is the cost? I'm interested in something that will edit Ensoniq SQ80, ESQ-M - though I've toyed with picking up a used TX81Z. Thanks, Kevin ------------------------------------

On Jun 21, 2008, at 8:51 PM, klkitts wrote: > > Is this program still available for purchase? Nope. > Only the windows > version available? You can buy the installer disk (Mac OS 9 and Windows) on eBay. Both versions require the installer CD to authorize. Mac OS X version is also available as a beta for Logic 5/6/7 users and requires the XSKey (Logic dongle) to launch. Best, Andy ------------------------------------

You know - that is a very interesting option. I was actually thinking about buying Logic anyway. If I bought Logic Studio 8 would I be able to run the Mac OS X 3.1 beta of the SoundDiver Editor/Librarian. Does the Mac OS X 3.1 Beta of Sound Diver require a serial number or dongle? Will it work with the serial or Dongle provided by Logic Studio 8? ------------------------------------

--- In sounddiver-users@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Kitts <klkitts@...> wrote: > Does the Mac OS X 3.1 Beta of Sound Diver require a serial >number or dongle? It requires an XSKey to be present.The XSkey was the copy protection used by logic 5, 6 and 7 >Will it work with the serial or Dongle provided by Logic Studio 8? The full version of logic 8 does not require an XSKey in order to run, so one is not provided with Logic 8. The Logic 8 serial number will not allow the Sounddiver 3.1 beta to run. kind regards Mark Cahill ------------------------------------

--- In sounddiver-users@yahoogroups.com, "markdvc2002" <mark@...> wrote: > > --- In sounddiver-users@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Kitts <klkitts@> > wrote: > > > Does the Mac OS X 3.1 Beta of Sound Diver require a serial > >number or dongle? > > It requires an XSKey to be present.The XSkey was the copy protection > used by logic 5, 6 and 7 > > >Will it work with the serial or Dongle provided by Logic Studio 8? > > The full version of logic 8 does not require an XSKey in order to run, > so one is not provided with Logic 8. The Logic 8 serial number will not > allow the Sounddiver 3.1 beta to run. > > kind regards > > Mark Cahill > Darn, so I would have to buy and older copy of Logic to be able to get Sound Diver to work? Hm... seems like this group will not get bigger over time, eh? ;-) What would be the easiest way for a new user to get a legal copy of Sound Diver? I actually have both a PC and a Mac - so theoretically I could use either one. My Mac is a bit newer/faster and has 4G of memory so I was thinking about making that my main machine though... ------------------------------------

klkitts wrote: > Darn, so I would have to buy and older copy of Logic to be able to get > Sound Diver to work? Hm... seems like this group will not get bigger > over time, eh? ;-) > > What would be the easiest way for a new user to get a legal copy of > Sound Diver? I actually have both a PC and a Mac - so theoretically I > could use either one. My Mac is a bit newer/faster and has 4G of > memory so I was thinking about making that my main machine though... > > Ebay was mentioned. -- Chris http://www.monotrematamusic.com http://www.myspace.com/monotremata http://www.descentrecords.com ------------------------------------

I believe both Mac and PC versions are included on the install/authorising CD, so you'd be looking for a single CD, second-hand (e.g. eBay). I bought a second-hand SoundDiver CD some time ago and it didn't cost a fortune, around GBP30 I think. As a long time user of SD, I wanted a second CD as a backup for my original (you can't simply copy an original, using a disk image or whatever - it won't work!) Will > What would be the easiest way for a new user to get a legal copy of > Sound Diver? I actually have both a PC and a Mac - so theoretically I > could use either one. ------------------------------------

On Jun 23, 2008, at 17:24, markdvc2002 wrote: > --- In sounddiver-users@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Kitts <klkitts@...> > wrote: > > > Does the Mac OS X 3.1 Beta of Sound Diver require a serial > >number or dongle? > > It requires an XSKey to be present.The XSkey was the copy protection > used by logic 5, 6 and 7 > > >Will it work with the serial or Dongle provided by Logic Studio 8? > > The full version of logic 8 does not require an XSKey in order to run, > so one is not provided with Logic 8. The Logic 8 serial number will > not > allow the Sounddiver 3.1 beta to run. > > kind regards > > Mark Cahill Mark / Kevin, I have the same problem with LOGIC EXPRESS 7 which does not have an XSkey like PRO 7. I have no way of running SoundDiver without the key (And keep watch on Ebay but don't see much). Graham ------------------------------------

> > What would be the easiest way for a new user to get a legal copy of > > Sound Diver? I actually have both a PC and a Mac - so theoretically I > > could use either one. Hi, I have Sounddiver V3 CD's (Mac and PC)and the manual, which I no longer use. If this is any use to you then make me an offer. I'm UK based. Good luck finding your stuff. Gil Gillian ------------------------------------