Thanks for the reply Groba!! I've had a chance to work with the MWXT a bit more and it seems that SOME PARAMETER ADJUSTMENTS MADE USING THE XT's BUTTONS AND KNOBS ARE REFLECTED IN SD SOMETIMES. For example almost all of the knobs in the section labeled ENVELOPES (when set to Filter, Wave 1-4, Wave 5-8 and Free Envelope) will it seems almost in all cases I have seen modify the corresponding parameters in SD's patch editor. The red knob that changes the wavetable will also change accordingly in SD almost always. Also the knob under the section FILTER for Type when adjusted manually will be correspondingly updated on screen in real time. Changes to LFO Speed 2 will be reflected in real time on screen sometimes but not always. Changes to all parameters made using the XT's knobs when not adjusted in real time on SD's patch editor will jump to the current/changed value as soon as I click on it once with the mouse to try to adjust it. I was considering reloading the OS on the XT to see if that would solve these discrepancies. Do you think that this might help? Is it difficult to do? Where can I obtain a copy of OS 2.33? Any tips, suggestions or pointers would be greatly appreciated. Best, AQ

AQ wrote: > Message posted by AQ <fotosmex@yahoo.com>: > > Thanks for the reply Groba!! > I've had a chance to work with the MWXT a bit more and it seems that SOME PARAMETER ADJUSTMENTS MADE USING THE XT's BUTTONS AND KNOBS ARE REFLECTED IN SD SOMETIMES. For example almost all of the knobs in the section labeled ENVELOPES (when set to Filter, Wave 1-4, Wave 5-8 and Free Envelope) will it seems almost in all cases I have seen modify the corresponding parameters in SD's patch editor. The red knob that changes the wavetable will also change accordingly in SD almost always. Also the knob under the section FILTER for Type when adjusted manually will be correspondingly updated on screen in real time. Changes to LFO Speed 2 will be reflected in real time on screen sometimes but not always. Changes to all parameters made using the XT's knobs when not adjusted in real time on SD's patch editor will jump to the current/changed value as soon as I click on it once with the mouse to try to adjust it. > > I was considering reloading the OS on the XT to see if that would solve these discrepancies. Do you think that this might help? Is it difficult to do? Where can I obtain a copy of OS 2.33? Any tips, suggestions or pointers would be greatly appreciated. > > Best, > AQ > You can get the OS for the XT same place you always have been able to. Waldorf's website. http://www.waldorfmusic.de/en/home -- Chris http://www.monotrematamusic.com http://www.myspace.com/monotremata http://www.descentrecords.com

Thanks for the reply's Achim and Chris! I used the link to the Waldorf site that you provided Chris and I downloaded OS 2.33 for the XT and I loaded it successfully on the first try using Sysex Librarian. That did not fix/resolve the issue. But at least I know that I am starting from a clean slate. ASSI <Stromeko@NexGo.de> wrote: > Have you set up the XT so that it sends the parameter changes as sysex? I am not sure. I have MIDI IN and OUT connections on the XT hooked up properly to my MIDI HUB (MOTU MTP AV USB). But I have not taken any further steps besides setting the MIDI CHANNEL and DEVICE ID. Is there another step that I need to take so that hte XT sends parameter changes as SYSEX? If so what specific step do I need to take? > You can use the MIDI monitor window in SD to see if the XT sends > something when you twiddle some knobs. Yes I have opened the MIDI monitor window and when i twiddle a knob there are entries in the MIDI monitor log. I started to use the LEARN CONTROLLER ASSIGNMENT command and manage to map some parameters so that parameter adjustments made using the knobs of the XT could be updated in SD in real time. But then SD crashed and I lost the assignments I had created. Is there any way to save CONTROLLER ASSIGNMENTS in SD? If so what is it? I am running the second public beta of SD ona Mac g5 running OS 10.4.11. Thanks again, any more tips would be greatly appreciated. Best, AQ

All you have to do is move the .ada adaptation files that you want to show up on the install list into the USER-->LIBRARY-->APPLICATION SUPPORT-->EMAGIC-->SOUNDDIVER ADAPTATIONS folder. It's a little confusing because you expect to see all of the other adaptations that already show up in the install list in there but it is empty. Don't worry just drop a copy of the adaptation in this folder and on the next time you start up SD the device will show up on the install list!!

OK, I tried creating a Controller assignment list for the knobs of the XT that were not being updated by SD's patch editor in real time but each time after I've gotten a couple of knobs mapped SD crashes. Once I managed to map about 25 controller assignments before SD crashed. If I was able to save the Controller Assignments List then I'm sure I could get through the whole thing with only a couple restarts. IS THERE ANY WAY TO SAVE A CONTROLLER ASSIGNMENTS LIST AS A SEPERATE FILE OR AS A PART OF A LARGER FILE? Also each time I open a patch editor for the MWXT in SD for the first time after starting SD I get an alert from SD saying in SD I get a alert saying "Please select Sound mode at Microwave XT. Note: To avoid this message, update your Microwave XT to version 2.09 or higher, and re-scan it." I am a fresh install of OS 2.33, so I am not sure why I am getting this message. Any tips, help, info is appreciated. AQ

Hi Andy, i dug up this old thread and was wondering if there was any chance you could pass the SD manual (ENGLISH VERSION) to me as well. I am new to SD and I am having issues that would probably be easily resolved or explained with a quick read of the manual. I am running the latest public beta of SD for mac and none of the HELP features actually display any info. Thanks, Alex

Hi AQ, you make me want to work more with my XT ;-) When playing around for some time with the knobs of my XT I also saw that SoundDiver partially updates some of the graphics, but not the corresponding sliders/knobs. But for the moment, I have got no idea why... The message "Please select Sound mode at Microwave XT" is due to the fact that the XT not changes between Sound and Multi Mode via (bank change) Midi Controller 0 and/or 32 as other synths do. The XT only switches between bank 1 and 2 in Sound Mode. When remotely wanting to change between Sound and Multi Mode you have to send a SysEx message - something which doesn't seem to be implementated in the XT adaption of SoundDiver. Cheers groba ------------------------------------

Thanks for the info Groba- I am just starting to figure out a workflow for using SD with the XT. What I'd really like to know is if there's any way to save Controller Assignments that I've created in SD to use with the XT. That's because I use both the knobs and the onscreen editor equally. Do you by any chance have a copy of the MANUAL in for the latest SD in pdf that you could email me? Thanks -Aq

Hello all- I tried creating a Controller assignment list for the knobs of the MicrowaveXT that were not being updated by SD's patch editor in real time but each time after I've gotten a couple of knobs mapped SD crashes. Once I managed to map about 25 controller assignments before SD crashed. If I was able to save the Controller Assignments List then I'm sure I could get through the whole thing with only a couple restarts. IS THERE ANY WAY TO SAVE A CONTROLLER ASSIGNMENTS LIST FOR A DEVICE AS A SEPERATE FILE OR AS A PART OF A LARGER FILE? For those of you who've seen a very similar post under a very different thread, I realized that the question really merited s a separate thread, because while it was related to the first post, it was a separate issue that could be looked at on its own. I am running the latest public beta of SD on a Mac g5 PPC dual 2.7, Logic 7.2 and Motu MTP AV (USB) with a Board #3 Waldorf Microwave XT . Any tips, suggestions welcome an appreciated. best, AQ

I need a copy of FreeMIDI in order to get my OMS Setup working properly on my sons computer. Setup: PowerMac 6500/300 G3 OS 9.2.2 OMS Setup 2.3.8 Keyboard: Yamaha DGX205 I understand this would enable OMS to recognize the USB port as a MIDI source. Right now it only sees the Printer and Modem ports. The FreeMIDI developer (MOTu) no longer has this available for download, so if anyone has the installer I would love it. Please email me at: allensis at efn dot org Thanks, joe

Can anyone send me the FreeMIDI install package? I have the same problem, but the installer is no longer available for download. I am using: PowerMac 6500/300 G3 OS 9.2.2 OMS Setup 2.3.8 Yamaha DGX205 Cheers! joe allensis AT efn DOT org

I saw this message as follows: File : /SoundDiver library/Yamaha/SY77-TG77 BIG COLLECTION.zip Uploaded by : markdvc2002 <mark@logic-users.org> Description : Library for Yamaha SY77-TG77 You can access this file at the URL: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sounddiver-users/files/SoundDiver% 20library/Ya maha/SY77-TG77%20%20BIG%20COLLECTION.zip But it doesn't seem to be here. Could anyone help me, I'm trying to get some sounds for my computerless brother who keeps gryping about the same old sounds on his SY77. any help would be appreciatted. Thanks. ------------------------------------

Am 16.03.2008 um 21:40 schrieb michaelkoly: > But it doesn't seem to be here. Could anyone help me, I'm trying to > get > some sounds for my computerless brother who keeps gryping about the > same old sounds on his SY77. Just downloaded it without any problems. I went to www.groups.yahoo.com then signed in, went to the SoundDiver user's group, then to the files section, then to the SoundDiver library folder, then to the Yamaha folder. Clicked on the entry and the download started right away. It seems to be a sit file, so you need StuffIt expander to unpack it. Ingo ------------------------------------

Hi, Does anyone out there have an instrument definition file for a Roland GR-09 for SoundDiver 3.0 ? If so can I mooch a copy ? mdlee1958 ------------------------------------

Just started dealing with SoundDiver in Windows (XP, SP2), since the Mac post OS 9 versions are way buggy. Installed it from an original 3.0 SoundDiver CD but notice at least one item missing: an adaptation, or was it a module, for the Proteus 2000. Does anyone have access to that file? I assume it ends in .ADA like the rest. Please send it to me at exdc at yahoo.com if you have a moment. Thanks! exdc

Am 21.03.2008 um 16:40 schrieb Michael Bransome: > Installed it from an original 3.0 SoundDiver CD but notice at least > one item > missing: an adaptation, or was it a module, for the Proteus 2000. Does > anyone have access to that file? I assume it ends in .ADA like the > rest. It's a module, called Pro2000. Since it's not an adaptation, it's likely that it doesn't end in .ADA. Sorry I'm on Mac and module aren't cross-platform, so I can't help you. Ingo ------------------------------------

> Installed it from an original 3.0 SoundDiver CD but notice at least > one item > missing: an adaptation, or was it a module, for the Proteus 2000. Does > anyone have access to that file? I assume it ends in .ADA like the > rest. Why not upgrade to 3.0.5.2? All SD upgrades are still available on the Apple site. Best, Andy ------------------------------------

Just got one of these, however Icannot figure out how or if soundiver will respond to dial movements. I went through the manual and I end up with as controller named "learned". some parameter (like LFO speed), and a midi string. But when I turn the correspomding knob nothing happens in SD. Anyone know what I am doing wrong? ------------------------------------

Hi all Does anyone have an adaption for the Alesis Fusion 6HD/8HD, and is there much difference between 3.5 and 3.5.2? Richard ------------------------------------

--- In sounddiver-users@yahoogroups.com, "Richard" <zoanne1uk@...> wrote: > > Hi all > > Does anyone have an adaption for the Alesis Fusion 6HD/8HD, and is there > much difference between 3.5 and 3.5.2? > > Richard > The Alesis Fusion has NO sysex implementation for remote patch manipulation. Any sound editing has to be done on the Fusion keyboard itself. However, you can move your data around on the Fusion hard drive through a USB connection to your PC using the "Fusion Sort" utility. You can also import samples into your Fusion via USB using the "Fusion Convert" utility. You can also save and load samples and sample programs using a compact flash card. In addition, you can upload any new OS updates via a flash card. I think you can use the "Fusion Sort" utility to back up the Fusion hard drive data through USB to your PC. You can also back up data using the flash card (up to the storage capacity of the card). If you have a flash card reader, you can move Fusion files directly onto your PC hard drive. Fish ------------------------------------

> The Alesis Fusion has NO sysex implementation for remote patch > manipulation. Any sound editing has to be done on the Fusion > keyboard itself. However, you can move your data around on the > Fusion hard drive through a USB connection to your PC using > the "Fusion Sort" utility. You can also import samples into your > Fusion via USB using the "Fusion Convert" utility. You can also save > and load samples and sample programs using a compact flash card. In > addition, you can upload any new OS updates via a flash card. > > I think you can use the "Fusion Sort" utility to back up the Fusion > hard drive data through USB to your PC. You can also back up data > using the flash card (up to the storage capacity of the card). If you > have a flash card reader, you can move Fusion files directly onto > your PC hard drive. > > Fish Hi all Actually, you can backup the Fusion hard drive contents directly to your pc through usb, not needing any additional software. Although "Fusion Sort" is pretty cool to manage your presets. Both Alesis and the Alesis Fusion Zone unofficial support site have detailed info/how-tos on that subject. Just my two cents (more like one or half :)) sergiommms ------------------------------------

Hi There, Out of interest, I have installed the last OSX Sounddiver Beta on my MacBook Pro running Leopard and it's all working pretty well. I have been using Galaxy for years on my OS9 machine for the occasional patch librarian stuff. Sounddiver seems quite good, if a little over complex at first. It's a real pity that Apple have suspended development on this. I imagine the Autolink feature would be of great use to many people. It's a pity. functionality similar to Opcodes system of OMS for MIDI setups Galaxy for Patch Libraries and Vision for sequencing used to work well. How is that in 1995 I had all my modules perfectly described in Galaxy and subscribed to Vision so all my hardware synths banks and names came up correctly in my seqeuncer without me having to type a single letter, and yet in 2008 in Logic Pro 8 I still have to type it all in manually, or copy and paste it from somewhere. Surely Apple could integrate some of Sounddiver into Logic to save us the hassle of this. Sometimes the good ideas die young, a la Avid/Digidesign AudioVision.... Leon MBP 2.4 2gb RAM Leopard 10.5.2 Logic Pro 8 and lots of other stuff. ------------------------------------

On Mar 30, 2008, at 8:47 PM, leonhorrocks wrote: > I imagine the > Autolink feature would be of great use to many people. Michael Haydn, the author of SoundDiver, AMT protocol and Logic Control, said long long time ago there was some system limitation in OS X that prevented Autolink from working properly. You might check the archives for 2002 or 2003 if interested. Best, Andy ------------------------------------

> Michael Haydn, the author of SoundDiver, AMT protocol and Logic > Control, said long long time ago there was some system limitation > in > OS X that prevented Autolink from working properly. You might check > the archives for 2002 or 2003 if interested. There is nothing in OSX stopping anything of the sort. C code is C code and so on. It's just that Sounddiver is such a crappily written application no one probably could be bothered to recode it. There are many things in UNIX which allow one app to talk to another, there are also lots of glue apps like Perl, shell scripts, TCL and so on. I do not think there is any such limitation. Microsoft makes Excel talk to Word and Powerpoint, for example (no matter what you think of MS). I put the reason as to why the OSX Autolink was never done was because plainly the Logic guys didn't care about Sounddiver and just couldn't be bothered. All it would take is an XML DTD, a parser and a script launcher to read in/out the variables - in a very general sense. If the source code was made Open Source, someone would've found a way, by now - there is always a way! The truth is, SD is a dead obsolete product that is practically abandonware, but is on life support for whatever convoluted reason the developers give this week - Just like Unitor Control, which we really can't live without if you own a Unitor or AMT-8! rachel -- Rachel Polanskis Kingswood, Greater Western Sydney, Australia grove@zeta.org.au http://www.zeta.org.au/~grove/grove.html The price of greatness is responsibility. ------------------------------------

More appropriately, the Apple guys don't/didn't care about Sounddiver. :) ----- Original Message ----- From: <grove@zeta.org.au> To: <sounddiver-users@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 4:08 PM Subject: [SoundDiver] Re: THOUGHTS FROM AND OLDIE BUT A NEWBIE TO THIS LIST >> Michael Haydn, the author of SoundDiver, AMT protocol and Logic >> Control, said long long time ago there was some system limitation >> in >> OS X that prevented Autolink from working properly. You might check >> the archives for 2002 or 2003 if interested. > > > There is nothing in OSX stopping anything of the sort. C code is C code > and so on. It's just that Sounddiver is such a crappily written > application no one probably could be bothered to recode it. > > There are many things in UNIX which allow one app to talk to another, > there are also lots of glue apps like Perl, shell scripts, TCL and so on. > I do not think there is any such limitation. Microsoft makes Excel > talk to Word and Powerpoint, for example (no matter what you think of MS). > > I put the reason as to why the OSX Autolink was never done was because > plainly the Logic guys didn't care about Sounddiver and just couldn't > be bothered. All it would take is an XML DTD, a parser and a script > launcher to read in/out the variables - in a very general sense. > > If the source code was made Open Source, someone would've found a way, > by now - there is always a way! > > The truth is, SD is a dead obsolete product that is practically > abandonware, but is on life support for whatever convoluted reason > the developers give this week - Just like Unitor Control, which > we really can't live without if you own a Unitor or AMT-8! > > > rachel > > -- > Rachel Polanskis Kingswood, Greater Western Sydney, > Australia > grove@zeta.org.au http://www.zeta.org.au/~grove/grove.html > The price of greatness is responsibility. > > ------------------------------------ > > ________________________________________________________________________ > SoundDiver Users Group - new forums! http://logic-users.org/forums/SD > - To UNSUBSCRIBE: email sounddiver-users-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > - Search the entire archive: http://logic-users.org/forums/SD/searchYahoo! > Groups Links > > > > ------------------------------------