Well start it up.www.PetitionOnline.com

I'll sign. Let's get organized! Dan

I checked out this site, did a search there and found our old Sounddiver Integration with Logic petition to Apple. We got 654 signatures to date. I'm sure that's not enough to make them sit up and take notice. We need promotion! This petition is still valid and taking signatures. See: http://www.petitiononline.com/soundDVR/petition.html Dan On Dec 26, 2006, at 3:23 PM, Scott Metzger wrote: > Well start it up.www.PetitionOnline.com > > > > >

On Tuesday, December 26, 2006, at 4:38 PM, "Dan Chapman" <dan@chapman-design.com> wrote: > I checked out this site, did a search there and found our old > Sounddiver Integration with Logic petition to Apple. We got 654 > signatures to date. I'm sure that's not enough to make them sit up > and take notice. ...Or maybe it's impossible to do in OS X as Michael Haydn said back in 2003... Best, Andy

Hi Chris, On Tuesday, December 26, 2006, at 1:18 PM, "Chris Coccia" <descentrecords@yahoo.com> wrote: > True Autolink doesnt work in OS X but.. If youre using Logic in OS X, > why go back to OS 9 just for SD when it is going to essentially > function the same anyways?? I don't understand what you mean by "function the same" without autolink... I'm so much used to saving my SD edits right to song's environment that I prefer to start in 9, do my edits in SD then do the rest of the song in X... I know I could save SD libraries for every song, but I am so used to my old method (I've used Logic/SD combo since 4.5 days) that I'd rather reboot to 9 in order to have my custom patches in every song... Best, Andy

I've now added mine bringing the total up to 658. Will Thomson > I checked out this site, did a search there and found our old > Sounddiver Integration with Logic petition to Apple. We got 654 > signatures to date. I'm sure that's not enough to make them sit up > and take notice. We need promotion! This petition is still valid and > taking signatures. > > See: > http://www.petitiononline.com/soundDVR/petition.html > > Dan

> > I checked out this site, did a search there and found our old >> Sounddiver Integration with Logic petition to Apple. We got 654 >> signatures to date. I'm sure that's not enough to make them sit up >> and take notice. > >...Or maybe it's impossible to do in OS X as Michael Haydn said back in >2003... My understanding is that the *Autolink* functionality was not possible in OSX. Think about it: Logic has a "mini-SoundDiver" built in already. Go to the main <Logic Pro> menu, select <Preferences> then <Control Surfaces> and finally <Setup> Look familiar? That's SoundDiver within Logic, except it's intended for Hardware controllers and not synths etc. One more thing I've said repeatedly here: Even though there may not be tens of thousands of existing or potential SoundDiver users for Apple to make money out of, they really should consider SoundDiver to be a loss-leader or at least a faithful-old-user bonus for all those of us who constantly buy new versions and upgrades to Logic Pro. I bought Logic at v2.0 and SoundDiver at v1 I paid for every new version of both, plus all of the Emagic softsynths when they were sold separately. I feel that I have earned an upgrade to SoundDiver or its inclusion into Logic. Rant over.... Colin

--- Colin Shapiro <musos@icon.co.za> wrote: > My understanding is that the *Autolink* > functionality was not possible in OSX. > > Think about it: Logic has a "mini-SoundDiver" built > in already. > Go to the main <Logic Pro> menu, select > <Preferences> then <Control > Surfaces> and finally <Setup> > Look familiar? That's SoundDiver within Logic, > except it's intended > for Hardware controllers and not synths etc. > > One more thing I've said repeatedly here: > Even though there may not be tens of thousands of > existing or > potential SoundDiver users for Apple to make money > out of, they > really should consider SoundDiver to be a > loss-leader or at least a > faithful-old-user bonus for all those of us who > constantly buy new > versions and upgrades to Logic Pro. > > I bought Logic at v2.0 and SoundDiver at v1 > I paid for every new version of both, plus all of > the Emagic > softsynths when they were sold separately. I feel > that I have earned > an upgrade to SoundDiver or its inclusion into > Logic. > > Rant over.... > > Colin > Hey, 200 % I agree man..!! Me too invested to Emagic day 1..... I'm very surprised people are not questioning or complaining to Apple about what they did for for a customer who invested to Emagic day 1....................

I'll sign it as well. In fact, I'll send it to some higher people at apple that i know, if you want. All this exciting chat about SD has got me to get off my backside to ask one of you generous lads point me to a URL Mac 9.x copy of 3.52 or whatever the last version . Anything so I can switch back and forth between 9.x and 10.x in Logic easily. I'll be happy to pay you something for your trouble to find a URL, just let me know. Eternally grateful, Uro boba_fett_0(at)yahoo(dot)com

ok, I've sent the petition to a few "C" level people I know and left some messages. We'll let you know if anything happens-- you never know if you don't try. As for .ada libraries: Does someone have any or all of following libraries for: 1) Rhodes Chroma 2) E-MU Emulator III 3&4) Oberheim OBX & OBX-A 5&6) Roland Jupiter 4 & 8 7&8) Moog MemoryMoog (not Linn vers.) & Minimoog 9) Elka Synthex 10) OSC Oscar 11) Arp Odyssey 12) Sequential Prophet 10 13) Yamaha CS-80 14) Octave Voyetra 8 I especially need the Chroma, Emulator III and Voyetra Libararies

> > My understanding is that the *Autolink* > > functionality was not possible in OSX. > > > > Think about it: Logic has a "mini-SoundDiver" built > > in already. > > Go to the main <Logic Pro> menu, select > > <Preferences> then <Control > > Surfaces> and finally <Setup> > > Look familiar? That's SoundDiver within Logic, > > except it's intended > > for Hardware controllers and not synths etc. > > > > One more thing I've said repeatedly here: > > Even though there may not be tens of thousands of > > existing or > > potential SoundDiver users for Apple to make money > > out of, they > > really should consider SoundDiver to be a > > loss-leader or at least a > > faithful-old-user bonus for all those of us who > > constantly buy new > > versions and upgrades to Logic Pro. > > > > I bought Logic at v2.0 and SoundDiver at v1 > > I paid for every new version of both, plus all of > > the Emagic > > softsynths when they were sold separately. I feel > > that I have earned > > an upgrade to SoundDiver or its inclusion into > > Logic. > > > > Rant over.... > > > > Colin > > > > Hey, 200 % I agree man..!! > Me too invested to Emagic day 1..... > I'm very surprised people are not questioning or > complaining to Apple about what they did for for a > customer who invested > to Emagic day 1.................... > Apple does not care if you've bought version 1 which they did not make profit from, or version 7 which they developed under their own auspices. Apple's primary goal is to sell Macs. Software will always take a back seat to hardware sales for Apple. Consider this: iTunes is free for all to download, but you have to pay for the ipod. Sure there's lots of benefits to treating your customers well so they'll buy the next product, and the next. But with Apple's dismissal of the Logic Control and AMT8 and Unitor8 from their product lineup, the message was sent loud and clear -- peripherals do not matter to Apple, even if they'd help the bottom line. (in my best Ren Hoek voice), "EEEdiots!"

--- In sounddiver-users@yahoogroups.com, Dan Chapman <dan@...> wrote: > > I checked out this site, did a search there and found our old > Sounddiver Integration with Logic petition to Apple. We got 654 > signatures to date. I'm sure that's not enough to make them sit up > and take notice. We need promotion! This petition is still valid and > taking signatures. > > See: > http://www.petitiononline.com/soundDVR/petition.html > > Dan > > On Dec 26, 2006, at 3:23 PM, Scott Metzger wrote: > > > Well start it up.www.PetitionOnline.com heh. funny thing, I signed it a long time ago. "387" Got word back from Bob Levitus ("Dr. Macintosh") and David Pogue (columnist for NYT & author of many Mac books). They both seem to suggest that it's really an uphill battle, but probably worth bringing to the attention of Apple through a public discourse. Is the MacWorld Expo still a January phenomenon? I know NAMM is right around the corner. We should make an effort to attend one or the other event and bring this to Apple's attention. Also Bob recommended trying to contact the project lead for Logic Pro. That's a great idea, but he's probably super-busy with Logic Pro 8 or somesuch. Releasing SoundDiver for OSX (& Windows too please) code to the open source community would rock. Apple could do the license such that they have rights to keep whatever integration components they want for Logic's benefit, but by leaving other components to the OS community, it would help Apple to "support" a product they'd rather not support, but still benefit by it's being alive in the wild.

Just had SD crash while attempting to add an SQ80/ESQ1/ESQM adaption. The ESQM adaption I'd been using was a little flaky as well. Anyone know the difference between these two adaptions?

Are You Really Asking For Libraries For Old Analog Synths Or just Want To Make Us Jealous With The Prophet, Synthex, CS80, Etc? On Dec 31, 2006, at 7:26 PM, Uro wrote: > Message posted by Uro <boba_fett_0@yahoo.com>: > > ok, I've sent the petition to a few "C" level people I know and > left some messages. We'll let you know if anything happens-- you > never know if you don't try. > > As for .ada libraries: Does someone have any or all of following > libraries for: > > 1) Rhodes Chroma > 2) E-MU Emulator III > 3&4) Oberheim OBX & OBX-A > 5&6) Roland Jupiter 4 & 8 > 7&8) Moog MemoryMoog (not Linn vers.) & Minimoog > 9) Elka Synthex > 10) OSC Oscar > 11) Arp Odyssey > 12) Sequential Prophet 10 > 13) Yamaha CS-80 > 14) Octave Voyetra 8 > > I especially need the Chroma, Emulator III and Voyetra Libararies > >

I'm wondering who would dedicate themselves to this? M. Hayden was the original developer, right? Open Source is really cool. But SD has always seemed to be quite complicated software, right? Anyway, I signed the petition. I hope something good happens because I've very very reluctantly given up using some of my hardware. It's absolutely true that the technology and sound of some of this "old" gear is still unmatched. For example, the 8 outs or the three placement points in a stereo field of the Yahama TX802, not to mention the 8 voice flexible confirguration, is still unmatched today. Of course we are small in numbers, and profits-this-year seem more important than customer support to many companies. John Oliver . composer . performer . writer. producer Info. http://www.johnolivermusic.com Scores. http://members.sibeliusmusic.com/johnoliver Oliver Yu Duo . http://earsay.com/oy Structural Damage . http://earsay.com/structuraldamage Canadian Music Centre . http://musiccentre.ca earsay CD label . http://earsay.com Canadian New Music Review . http://cnmr.earsay.com > Releasing SoundDiver for OSX (& Windows too please) code to the open > source community would rock. Apple could do the license such that they > have rights to keep whatever integration components they want for > Logic's benefit, but by leaving other components to the OS community, > it would help Apple to "support" a product they'd rather not support, > but still benefit by it's being alive in the wild.

Yeah it would be nice for it to continue natively in one of the new OS, but I'm not holding my breath. I'm still using soundDiver on OS9 and Windows XP, and I guess that will be the end of the line for my Unitor II and 4x AMT8's. Shame because I really like sounddiver, for the 80s and 90s korg, roland and waldorf stuff especially. And no I'm not going to sell all my hardware - my fingers are tuned to this stuff. What the heck am I going to replace it all with, is there anything else with midi synch across 40 midi channels that deals happily with sysex and works day and day out with no complaints, and can be got downunder? In ten years I've had to return one AMT8, and they could'nt find anything wrong with it - so I replaced the power supply and problem solved. That kind of reliability is hard to get. Whats the best bet for midi on the new intel macs and is there anybody supporting sysex control of hardware synths properly on either the mac or wintel platform? Or should I plan on keeping the status quo as long as possible. I have got a edirol UM880 for one rack and within its own channels its quite good, but I can't synch it to anything else. Damn I hate upgrading. Cheers Caleb _____ From: sounddiver-users@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sounddiver-users@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of spamisevil Sent: Wednesday, 3 January 2007 9:42 a.m. To: sounddiver-users@yahoogroups.com Subject: [SoundDiver] Re: should we send a petition to Apple? I'm wondering who would dedicate themselves to this? M. Hayden was the original developer, right? Open Source is really cool. But SD has always seemed to be quite complicated software, right? Anyway, I signed the petition. I hope something good happens because I've very very reluctantly given up using some of my hardware. It's absolutely true that the technology and sound of some of this "old" gear is still unmatched. For example, the 8 outs or the three placement points in a stereo field of the Yahama TX802, not to mention the 8 voice flexible confirguration, is still unmatched today. Of course we are small in numbers, and profits-this-year seem more important than customer support to many companies. John Oliver . composer . performer . writer. producer Info. http://www.johnoliv <http://www.johnolivermusic.com>; ermusic.com Scores. http://members. <http://members.sibeliusmusic.com/johnoliver>; sibeliusmusic.com/johnoliver Oliver Yu Duo . http://earsay. <http://earsay.com/oy>; com/oy Structural Damage . http://earsay. <http://earsay.com/structuraldamage>; com/structuraldamage Canadian Music Centre . http://musiccentre. <http://musiccentre.ca>; ca earsay CD label . http://earsay. <http://earsay.com>; com Canadian New Music Review . http://cnmr. <http://cnmr.earsay.com>; earsay.com > Releasing SoundDiver for OSX (& Windows too please) code to the open > source community would rock. Apple could do the license such that they > have rights to keep whatever integration components they want for > Logic's benefit, but by leaving other components to the OS community, > it would help Apple to "support" a product they'd rather not support, > but still benefit by it's being alive in the wild.

hello I just installed SD 3.1 on my G5 os10.4.8 So far it wont see my amt 8 or anything else in my system. Should I expect SD to work with this MAC? thanks

Hi there, On Jan 7, 2007, at 8:05 PM, cc112452 wrote: > I just installed SD 3.1 on my G5 os10.4.8 > So far it wont see my amt 8 or anything else in my system. > Should I expect SD to work with this MAC? Try (re)installing Emagic MIDI driver. Best, Andy

uhhh hey guys, this thread is nearly 7 years old by now but I'd like to check out that Encore Expressionist adaptation. I'm currently using SoundDiver v3.0.5.4 on my PC and it still beats the crap out of MidiQuest in my opinion. Please do contact me with that expressionist adaptation if you've still got it, thanks!

Hi dammerx, within the version information of the unitor / amt serial driver (UNIS2K.sys) you will find "WrittenBy - Andreas Tofahrn, Karben". Take a look on his website. The impressive page "Profil" also lists his work for emagic. Best regards

Hello, help pls , i am a total mac newbie ! i have the original CD and floppy of Sdiver for mac/win 2.0 if i install it at end it ask me for the floppy but i am on an ibook G3 os9.2 no floppy there ! how do i do it ? will any generic usb external floppy do it ? .. also can i update then till 3.05 from then ? i have already downloaded all the files from 213 till 305 and do i need to install them one by one or can i skip form 2.0 to 305 ? one more problem they are bin/sit files if i try to run a bin/sit file on my mac os9 it says it cant do anything ? do i need a bin/sit decompressor ? or should i just buy a win notebook ? lol :-)))) tnx in advance ! Regards --------------------------------------------------Env1-----Env2--Env3------- ---- Andrea.TONI@rssd.esa.int Vco1 | | Solar System Missions Sci-SM Vco2-->--Vcf-->Vca-->Ducati996 www.rssd.esa.int Vco3 / | | / --------------------------------------------------Lfo1-----Lfo2--Lfo3------- ----

Hi there, I must say I don´t really understand what I have to do to make an adaption. I want to use my Yamaha RS7000 and my Alesis Micron with SD on PC. Maybe someone here who did create some adaptions and give some tips and tricks for a startup or maybe something like a workshop? Would be that kind of cool. Which other software is good enough like SD or better? Please let me know. THx and hav a nice time... ;-)= micha

Ciao Andrea! 1. Any generic external usb floppy will do. You need the floppy for authorizing SD 2.0. 2. As far as I can remember from V3.0 on you only need the CD-ROM for authorizing (I may be wrong) - SD ask you from time to time to reinsert the original CD-ROM. 3. Download the free version of "stuffit expander" it will unpack .sit-files under OS9. 4. Don't you dare to buy a notebook which runs windows now you've got a mac! ;-) 5. What files "213 to 305" ??? Greats groba

On Mittwoch, 17. Januar 2007 17:31, Andrea TONI wrote: > how do i do it ? will any generic usb external floppy do it ? Probably, but there's no guarantee. > .. also can i update then till 3.05 from then ? No. Just install 3.0 from CD and then use the updater to 3.0.5 and then 3.0.5.2 (the latter one just contains some adaptation updates). > i have already downloaded all the files from 213 till 305 ??? You can't upgrade from 2.x to 3.x - AFAIK, ist's a complete new install with 3.0 (at least it was under Windows). Achim. -- +<[Q+ Matrix-12 WAVE#46 Neuron microQkb Andromeda XTk sonic heaven]>+ DIY Stuff: http://Synth.Stromeko.net/DIY.html

Am 20.01.2007 um 18:18 schrieb rukula_04: > > I must say I don´t really understand what I have to do to make an > adaption. I want to use my Yamaha RS7000 and my Alesis Micron with SD > on PC. Maybe someone here who did create some adaptions and give some > tips and tricks for a startup or maybe something like a workshop? > Would > be that kind of cool. Have you got the "Programming Manual.pdf"? It includes tutorials and explains everything pretty well. If you've got any specific questions, just ask here on this list. > Which other software is good enough like SD or better? Please let me > know. The only similar program I know of that lets you make your own "adaptations" is JSynthLib. But there you have to program them in Java, while for a SoundDiver adaptation you don't need any programming language at all. Ingo