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From: "J. Eric Marler" <marler@post.harvard.edu>
Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 at 2:16:16 PM
Subject: [SoundDiver] Re: Trying to access a USB MIDI interface from SD or OMS (Mac OS9/Classic)
Message #17326
This is a reply to #17307.
--- In sounddiver-users@yahoogroups.com, "Urs Grossenbacher" <ursgrossenbacher@...> wrote: > Have you installed the "OMS USB Manager" extension in your /systemfolder (MacOS9)/ > OMS folder? Hello, and thanks for the reply! I do indeed find that the OMS 2.3.8 installer has put a file titled "USB OMSMIDIDriver" in the OS9 System/Extensions folder, and one called "OMS USB Manager" in the OS9 System/OMS Folder. So that appears not to be the problem. Recently I tried to do some more troubleshooting. First, to recap, I should say that my problem is that, when I am running my PowerBook G4 in Classic mode, neither SoundDiver nor OMS (nor, I find, MotU's FreeMIDI) seems to be able to see the USB port. In SoundDiver, the USB port is shown as "n/a" in the Communications Preferences. In OMS, only the "printer" and "modem" ports are shown in the dialogue boxes that allow one to choose an input/output port. FreeMIDI 1.48 doesn't see the USB port either. Here are some steps that I've tried without resolving the issue: -- I updated my SD version 3.0 to 3.0.52 -- I created a new configuration in the OS X Audio MIDI Setup that excludes my USB MIDI interface. The new configuration still includes an audio & MIDI interface that connects via Firewire, but I'm assuming that a Firewire interface configured in OS X shouldn't interfere with USB communications in OS 9. (?) -- Previously, I'd had FreeMIDI 1.48 installed in OS 9 and had been trying to run FreeMIDI and OMS 2.3.8 at the same time. When I realized this, I used the OS 9 Extensions Manager to deactivate FreeMIDI, restarted, and tried OMS again without success. -- I've tried disabling USB-related system extensions in OS 9 -- at least the ones that seem to be non-essential to the system and to my purposes -- in hopes of eliminating a conflict there. At base, it seems that something is occupying or blocking the USB port/bus so that my MIDI programs can't see it. Do I have to disable all USB software in OS X -- for example, USB printer drivers, etc. -- in order to allow OS 9 to have access to the USB port? I have MotU AudioDesk and Clockworks installed in the OS X (10.3.9) area of my computer. I do not try to run them while trying to run SD in OS 9. But do they have drivers or extensions running that are causing my problems? If anyone has ever seen that "USB port: n/a" message in the SoundDiver Communications Prefs window, please let me know how you overcame it. Many thanks! cheers, Eric
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From: Michael Rodenberg <MRodenberg@wolfsburg.de>
Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 at 3:46:52 PM
Subject: Re: [SoundDiver] Re: OSX; 03D adaptation not working
Message #17327
This is a reply to #17321.
> Message posted by Felix-Anotine Richer <flash@nuclearramjet.com> > ______________________________________________________________________ > > Hi, > I tested sounddiver on the rest of my setup and realised that there > are other problems: > > Oberheim Matrix1000: sounddiver receives data but cannot send > properly, the Matrix wont recognise any messages. > Again it seems that one byte is missing: the checksum byte. > > Peavey PC-1600 is working good! (no checksum used in this > adaptation...) > Oberheim Microwave XT is also doing good. > > So my guess is that any bank manager Adaptation using a checksum > will fail... Hi Felix, when I tried to make an adaptation for the Technics WSA-1, I failed because of exactly the same problem. It really seems like the OS-X beta-version of SD isn´t able to send out checksums.............at least no 2´s complements..... Are those adaptations you mentioned based on the Uni-Module? Maybe it ´s only the Uni-Module that can´t handle checksums...??? regards, - Miro -
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From: Felix-Anotine Richer <flash@nuclearramjet.com>
Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 at 6:34:30 PM
Subject: Re: OSX; 03D adaptation not working
Message #17328
Michael Rodenberg <MRodenberg@wolfsburg.de> wrote: > Hi Felix, > when I tried to make an adaptation for the Technics WSA-1, I failed > because of exactly the same problem. It really seems like the OS-X > beta-version of SD isn´t able to send out checksums.............at > least no 2´s complements..... > Are those adaptations you mentioned based on the Uni-Module? Maybe it > ´s only the Uni-Module that can´t handle checksums...??? > regards, > - Miro - Hi Miro, In my setup, all the adaptations of the uni-module that use checksum are failing to send the checksum byte: 03D (using 2's complement) and the Martix-1000 (using LH Nibbles ->7bit) The native modules (in my case only the Microwave XT) and the adaptations that dont use checksum are working fine. So, yes, my conclusion is that universal module cant send checksum... But maybe some people here have had success with uni-module and checksum? Anyone? Maybe this is just happenning in our systems? Anyways, my system is: G5 dual 2ghz, 1,5 meg ram, osx.4.6, 2 x emagic amt8, with the latest version of sounddiver regards, Felix
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From: "Urs Grossenbacher" <ursgrossenbacher@bluewin.ch>
Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 at 12:28:57 PM
Subject: [SoundDiver] Re: Trying to access a USB MIDI interface from SD or OMS (Mac OS9/Classic)
Message #17329
This is a reply to #17326.
Hi Eric! I'm not familiar with the MotU USB MIDI Interfaces. But with my Unitor8 MkII I need to install a special Unitor8 USB driver for MacOS9 in the system extension folder and a Unitor8 OMS driver in the system/OMS folder to get the interface recogniced. When there is no special OMS driver available for your interface you need the "Standard Interface OMS driver" in your system/OMS folder. Make sure other USB drivers and system extensions in MacOS9 like "HID Library", "InputSprocket Classic", "InputSprocket Extension" and "USB Device Extension" are enabled. When I did my new set-up in MacOS9 the USB port wasn't shown - only the printer and modem port. When I let OMS search for new devices it found my Unitor8 flawlessly on the USB port. Make sure you've got the preference pane "OMS preferred device" enabled. Chose your MotU interface there. Open for a change your system profiler in MacOS9 - does it show other USB devices you've got connected. When not - we need a deeper look into your system extension... Cheers groba
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From: Robin <robin@repmusic.co.uk>
Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 at 12:03:30 PM
Subject: Programming User Performance on JV-1010 with SoundDiver
Message #17330
Hi, Close to throwing 1010 out window, need help! I want to programme my user performances on my 1010 so that I can set sounds for gigs i.e. Perf 001 to have piano on channel 1 and organ on channel 2. If I send this info to the 1010 using Sound Diver it works BUT as soon as I change to another performance and go back again, or if I turn off the 1010, the settings are lost...Roland tech support can't seem to help... Anyone know what I'm doing wrong...it's driving me crazy. Thanks, Robin
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From: Julian <dj_kontrast@hotmail.com>
Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 at 3:51:05 PM
Subject: cant figure this out..please help
Message #17331
Hello so i have a casio cz-1 and a yamaha tx81z synth MODULE and i wanna be able to program the module with soundiver but at the same time be able to preview the sounds im making by playin them on the cz-1's keyboard. I realize there should be a way of connecting it so it works but so far no matter how i connect it sounddiver cant find either the yamaha or the casio. I hope this is somewhat clear and some one can help me...pleaaaseeee :)
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From: Robin <robin@repmusic.co.uk>
Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 at 6:21:21 PM
Subject: Re: Programming User Performance on JV-1010 with SoundDiver
Message #17332
...and bizarrely it works perfectly well with my 1080, and I know it's not my 1010 because I've got two side by side and the same thing happens on both....I bought the 1010s so I wouldn't have to take the 1080 on gigs....Is there a memory protection on the 1010 I don't know about? Anyone? Cheers, Robin
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From: Robin <robin@repmusic.co.uk>
Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 at 6:24:59 PM
Subject: Re: Xv-5050 Urgent Help
Message #17333
Sorry I can't help on the 5050 issue but can you tell me how you saved the performance changes on the 1010, whenever I change a part to the patch I want (using SoundDiver), it loses this when I change to another performance or turn the module off/on.... But it works fine on my 1080, any thoughts? Cheers, Robin
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From: Robin <robin@repmusic.co.uk>
Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 at 7:17:54 PM
Subject: Re: Saving performance on jv-1010
Message #17334
Did you ever solve this, I'm trying to do the same myself with similar problems? Cheers, Robin
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From: Colin Shapiro <musos@icon.co.za>
Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 at 5:48:21 AM
Subject: Re: [SoundDiver] cant figure this out..please help
Message #17335
This is a reply to #17331.
>so i have a casio cz-1 and a yamaha tx81z synth MODULE and i wanna be able >to program the module with soundiver but at the same time be able to preview >the sounds im making by playin them on the cz-1's keyboard. I realize there >should be a way of connecting it so it works but so far no matter how i >connect it sounddiver cant find either the yamaha or the casio. Are you running on Mac or PC? If Mac, you must first configure AudioMidi setup to see your gear, including your MIDI interface. Regards - Colin
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From: Robin <robin@repmusic.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 at 2:51:08 PM
Subject: Re: Programming User Performance on JV-1010 with SoundDiver
Message #17336
.....saga continues, Roland now say you CAN'T save performance settings on the 1010, what is the point of it then!! Anyone who can prove them wrong is most welcome...
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From: "Andy Becker" <andy@texasbeckers.com>
Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 at 4:50:23 PM
Subject: Re: [SoundDiver] Digest Number 2147
Message #17337
Sorry for the delay, I am just catching up. I use the OEM SoundDiver that shipped with the JV-1010 on three units, and I'm able to save patches, performances, all of that. I wonder if the part you are missing is that you need to send them to the device? SD keeps everything in parallel. It's pretty maddening sometimes if you forget to transmit. But from the symptoms you describe, this is most likely the problem. Anyway, once you've set up a performance, right click it in the device manager view, and choose Transmit. (It may be called something else, but similar - sorry, I'm at work at the moment!) Maybe there is a setting to do this automatically, but I haven't found it yet in 6 years of messing with it. Andy ----- Original Message ----- > Date: Mon May 15, 2006 2:32pm(PDT) > Subject: Re: Programming User Performance on JV-1010 with SoundDiver > > Message posted by Robin <robin@repmusic.co.uk>: > > .....saga continues, Roland now say you CAN'T save performance settings on > the 1010, what is the point of it then!! Anyone who can prove them wrong > is most welcome...
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From: "squarelu" <squarelu@yahoo.fr>
Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 at 12:17:14 AM
Subject: [SoundDiver] SD with Oberheim Matrix 6R or Matrix1000?
Message #17338
Hi, I have some problems with SD 3,1,0 beta 2Beta with the Oberheim Marix 6 Rack. I use OS X 10,4,6 and an Emagc AMT8. From memory, everything woks fine under OS 9 but with OS 10 it's a nightmare. The synth is not auto scan but seems work in manual scan. I could receive all patches in the SD window (with some 'times' adjustment) but when I send a patch to the synth, I always stay on the 99 Patch. The memory protect switch is of coarse off. The editing window works (maybe partially) and I could hear the manipulation. IMO the soft is lightly buggy and I become seriously crazy. Any help will be much appreciated, Lucien
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From: "squarelu" <squarelu@yahoo.fr>
Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 at 12:59:51 AM
Subject: [SoundDiver] SD with Two Emagic AMT8 or Unitor
Message #17339
Hello, I have tried without success to link 2 Emagic AMT8. I use the PC/Mac cable for making the link. The first interface appears in the SD setup menu with only one AMT8. Even in the first device I can't see AMT8 (9-16), just AMT8 (1-8). It worked on Mac OS 9 ! but with OS 10,4,6, it seems to do not recognize the second interface. If someone have a good idea... I already get a hammer... Thanks, Lucien
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From: "Neil Marsh" <Neil@AudioBoy.net>
Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 at 2:55:23 PM
Subject: [SoundDiver] Modifying an Adaptation: Adding a Button That Transmits a Single SysEx Command?
Message #17340
Hi gang. I've been trying to read through the Adaptation Programming Manual, but after about a page, my brain seems to melt and run out my ears, so I thought I'd ask here. The Adaptation for the Kawai K4 has a small flaw in it which prevents the unit switching to MULTI mode from SINGLE mode and vice- versa. If you're working on a SINGLE patch and then click on a MULTI patch, the MULTI patch highlights, but the K4 doesn't actually switch to it or load it into the edit buffer. It remains on the previous SINGLE patch. I've been unable to implement any changes in the adaptation to correct this, so I'm looking for an alternate solution. The K4 front panel has two buttons that change the bank status of the unit: SINGLE and MULTI. Pressing the SINGLE button switches the K4 to the SINGLE bank and pressing the MULTI button switches you to the MUTLI bank. In either case, the actual patch # remains unchanged (if you're on SIA-8 and you press the MULTI button, you end up on MIA-8; if you're on MIC-12 and you press the SINGLE button, you end up on SIC-12). The pressing of these buttons also generates MIDI messages, which I have copied and saved in case it's possible to implement my idea. So, my question is: is it possible -- and if so, how -- to create a similar pair of buttons (SINGLE and MULTI) in the Device Window that, when clicked, will transmit the appropriate MIDI data to the K4 and execute the necessary change? Any help would be greatly appreciated. I'd really like to make this work because my K4 sits on a shelf of my tri-level rack and getting up to go over to change it everytime I want to change the banks just isn't practical. Thanks! --- Neil Marsh * Neil@AudioBoy.net Cambridge, MA * www.pmrp.org LiveJournal: http://www.livejournal.com/users/pmrp/ The Post-Meridian Radio Players: Live Audio Theater / Classic Radio Drama Re-Creations / Studio Productions
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From: "SoundEngine.com" <scott@soundengine.com>
Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 at 11:06:50 AM
Subject: [SoundDiver] RE:Modifying an Adaptation: Adding a Button That Transmits a Single Sys
Message #17341
Hi Neil: I am just curious about two things: [1] Does the K4 Manual provide any insight into a System Exclusive Messsage that performs the function you are talking about? [2] Does the K4 accept / transmit SysEx message for front panel button pushes? If so, you could monitor the SysEx coming out of the K4 and duplicate the messages in the Adaptation. Regards, Scott SoundEngine.com +1.847.440.7373 http://www.soundengine.com/ -----Original Message----- Message 1 From: "Neil Marsh" Neil@AudioBoy.net Date: Sat May 20, 2006 0:56pm(PDT) Subject: Modifying an Adaptation: Adding a Button That Transmits a Single Sys So, my question is: is it possible -- and if so, how -- to create a similar pair of buttons (SINGLE and MULTI) in the Device Window that, when clicked, will transmit the appropriate MIDI data to the K4 and execute the necessary change? Any help would be greatly appreciated. I'd really like to make this work because my K4 sits on a shelf of my tri-level rack and getting up to go over to change it everytime I want to change the banks just isn't practical.
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From: "Neil Marsh" <Neil@AudioBoy.net>
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 at 10:35:02 PM
Subject: [SoundDiver] Re: RE:Modifying an Adaptation: Adding a Button That Transmits a Single Sys
Message #17342
This is a reply to #17341.
--- In sounddiver-users@yahoogroups.com, "SoundEngine.com" <scott@...> wrote: > > I am just curious about two things: > > [1] Does the K4 Manual provide any insight into a System Exclusive > Messsage that performs the function you are talking about? I've looked through the MIDI Implementation booklet, but I haven't seen anything that appears to address these. Not that that means much -- my head starts to spin when I try to make sense out of that stuff. > [2] Does the K4 accept / transmit SysEx message for front panel > button pushes? If so, you could monitor the SysEx coming out of > the K4 and duplicate the messages in the Adaptation. Oh I've captured the SysEx for both buttons, but I can't make heads or tails out of how to apply it to the adaptation (my brain just isn't wired for that kind of thinking, which is why I end up asking for help here). I've tried altering a few bits of code here and there that looked different, but nothing has worked. I've also tried a couple of workarounds posted here over the years, but they haven't worked either. That's why I figured I'd ask about adding the buttons to the adaptation. -//
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From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gérald_RYCKEBOER?= <ryckeboerg@wanadoo.fr>
Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 at 5:39:33 AM
Subject: Re: [SoundDiver] Sounddiver Programming Manual
Message #17343
This is a reply to #17320.
Le 13 mai 06, à 18:51, Felix-Anotine Richer <flash@nuclearramjet.com> a écrit : > Hi All > I'm looking for the Sounddiver Universal Module Programming Manual > Any chance someone can help me find it? I had just sent you the manual -- Gérald
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From: dan chapman <dan@chapman-design.com>
Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 at 1:07:11 PM
Subject: [SoundDiver] Programming drum notes
Message #17344
This is a reply to #17337.
I really need some help. I'd like to use SoundDiver to get individual drum names copied over from my Roland JV1080 to Logic. But, at this point, I'm scared to even launch SD, because I'm afraid SD will reset the JV1080/Logic settings that have taken me so long to program. SoundDiver question: Is there a SD preference that will prevent it from sending changes? Logic question: I want to be able to display every drum set in the JV1080, and also note names for every set. I have 30 sets spread out over 9 banks (5 internal sound banks and 4 expansion card sound banks). Do I need to create 30 separate mapped instruments in the environment? Or will Logic automatically recognize bank and set changes within a single mapped instrument? Forgive me for my confusion on this. Dan
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From: "Urs Grossenbacher" <ursgrossenbacher@bluewin.ch>
Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 at 12:34:57 PM
Subject: [SoundDiver] Re: Programming drum notes
Message #17345
This is a reply to #17344.
Hi Dan! With which operating system, Logic and SoundDiver version do you work? It's easier to help by knowing this... Greets groba
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From: dan chapman <dan@chapman-design.com>
Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 at 1:54:29 PM
Subject: Re: [SoundDiver] Re: Programming drum notes
Message #17346
This is a reply to #17345.
On May 25, 2006, at 10:34 AM, Urs Grossenbacher wrote: > Hi Dan! > > With which operating system, Logic and SoundDiver version do you work? > It's easier to help by knowing this... > > Greets > groba > > > > Sorry for not including this. OSX 10.3.9 Dual 2.5 GHz G5 Logic Platinum 6 SoundDiver 3.1 Unitor 8 mk2 Roland A-90 as controller/sound module Roland JV-1080 w/ four expansion cards. Dan
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From: "Dan" <knightdj@btinternet.com>
Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 at 4:02:32 PM
Subject: Re: [SoundDiver] Re: Programming drum notes
Message #17347
This is a reply to #17345.
Hi has anybody got the sounddiver to work with sequential circuits six trak? I am strugling here, using the pc version thanks =) Dan
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From: "J. Eric Marler" <marler@post.harvard.edu>
Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 at 10:39:51 PM
Subject: [SoundDiver] Re: Trying to access a USB MIDI interface from SD or OMS (Mac OS9/Classic)
Message #17348
This is a reply to #17329.
Hi Groba. Thanks for these hints. They helped! My PowerBook G4, Mac OS 9.2.2, MotU MTP AV/USB interface and Sounddiver 3.0.52 now seem to be working OK together. For the reference of anyone else who may have similar problems, here's what has to be done. (See my previous posts for a full description of my setup.) 1. Make a configuration in MacOS X Audio MIDI Setup that does NOT include the MTP/AV USB. This is to free up the interface and USB bus for use by OS 9. 2. Install OMS 2.3.8. I found the installer by a google search. It will install itself in the OS 9 System Folder. 3. Install MotU FreeMIDI 1.48. This version is available as a download at the MotU website. It too installs in the OS 9 Folder automatically. It is important to install FreeMIDI *after* OMS. Otherwise the FreeMIDI installer will not install the MotU USB and interface drivers in the OMS Folder located in the OS 9 System Folder. (There was a tech note at the MotU website that pointed this out.) 4. Run OMS Setup. Just as Groba said, the USB port did not appear alongside the modem and printer serial ports as options in the setup process; nevertheless, the MTP/AV USB was recognized when the automatic scan is performed. 5. In SoundDiver 3, choose OMS in the MIDI Communications Preferences. In my case, my main problem was that I already had FreeMIDI installed on my system when I installed OMS. Thus the necessary MotU drivers were missing from the OMS folder until I reinstalled FreeMIDI. One curiosity: I now get an error message relating to the OS X MTP driver every time OS X starts up. I am not worried about it now but I may have to sort it out later. The error says: "! System extension cannot be used. The system extension '/System/Library/Extensions/Motu MIDI Driver.kext' was installed improperly and cannot be used. Please try reinstalling it, or contact the product's vendor for an update." I'm not sure if this is a symptom of OS 9 and OS X fighting over access to the MTP, or whether the driver became corrupted when, at one point when I was monkeying around with the setup, Audio MIDI setup crashed in OS X. In any case, SoundDiver now has a new lease on life in my little studio. Thanks to those who offered advice! cheers, Eric --- In sounddiver-users@yahoogroups.com, "Urs Grossenbacher" <ursgrossenbacher@...> wrote: > > I'm not familiar with the MotU USB MIDI Interfaces. But with my Unitor8 MkII I need to install a > special Unitor8 USB driver for MacOS9 in the system extension folder and a Unitor8 OMS > driver in the system/OMS folder to get the interface recogniced. > When there is no special OMS driver available for your interface you need the "Standard > Interface OMS driver" in your system/OMS folder. > Make sure other USB drivers and system extensions in MacOS9 like "HID Library", > "InputSprocket Classic", "InputSprocket Extension" and "USB Device Extension" are enabled. > When I did my new set-up in MacOS9 the USB port wasn't shown - only the printer and > modem port. When I let OMS search for new devices it found my Unitor8 flawlessly on the > USB port. > Make sure you've got the preference pane "OMS preferred device" enabled. Chose your MotU > interface there. > Open for a change your system profiler in MacOS9 - does it show other USB devices you've > got connected. When not - we need a deeper look into your system extension...
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From: "Urs Grossenbacher" <ursgrossenbacher@bluewin.ch>
Date: Fri, 26 May 2006 at 2:49:03 PM
Subject: [SoundDiver] Re: Programming drum notes
Message #17349
This is a reply to #17346.
Hi Dan It takes quite a time but I'd do it like this - at least it worked with the ten banks of my Matrix-1000... 1. Make a multi object in your environment for your JV1080. 2. Open SD and copy the names of a bank and paste them into the corresponding bank of your multi instrument. 3. Make sure the bank change message is set correctly under Options/define bank change message (I'm not sure about the correct name in english). There is no special preference in SD to disable sending changes. Just don't hit send - as long as you don't send data from SD to the JV1080 nothing "serious" should happen. Just make sure the omni and/or sysex channels and instrument ID are set correctly in SD to be able to receive data from your JV1080. I never got familiar with the sound hirarchy of Roland synths - So I can't precisely help with your "Logic question". It's just important that the bank change message is set correctly within your environment so that you easily can change even between internal and card banks. You'll find more information on setting bank change messages, multi and mapped instruments in the chapter "Multi Instruments" and "Mapped Instruments" in the reference handbook. AFAIK you usually have to define a mapped instrument for drum kits. I hope this helps... Greets groba
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From: "jg573" <demonfuzz@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 27 May 2006 at 10:49:48 PM
Subject: [SoundDiver] Sequential Prophet 2000 ?
Message #17350
Hello. I was wondering if there was/is any support for controlling the Sequential Prophet 2000 sampler/Synth? thnx!
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