Without wishing to be another "me too!" on this thread, my AMT8 was not recognised either when I did a scan with the SoudDiver OSX Beta. I have a feeling that the same thing happened under OS9 too. Devices all seem to communicate OK however, and if I add the AMT8 manually, things seem OK. I'm using the latest Core Midi Drivers for the AMT8, I'm in 10.2.8 and I'm "almost" certain that the AMT8 is connected directly to the machine (although a hub is connected to the other port). It may or may not be related, but I do also find that I occasionally have to reset the AMT8 and restart applications before they recognise it sometimes. Myabe this is because I don't always power it up before starting the computer?? Sorry if my comments are too vague to be helpful - I'm not at my machine right now so I can't verify everything (like hubs etc).

>Am 24.01.2004 um 11:56 schrieb Colin Shapiro: > >> I don't have *ANY* help files in the OSX version. (apart from the >> basic SD index) > > Can someone else confirm this? Michael Haydn replied: >Yes. This was a mistake. We will soon provide a new version with all online help included. Thanks Michael. Is there a chance that you can also fix the serious bug where there is no choice where to save edits (as mentioned in previous threads)? Regards - Colin

> > Has anyone used Sounddiver with Gigastudio? (My idea was to try and > "grab" > the instruments from Giga's memory and send them automatically to > Logic via > the Autolink.) Interesting idea - though puzzling. One of the great things about software instruments is the ability to edit and store in a graphic environment on your computer *without* the need for an ed/librarian- right?! If I did not have hardware I would not use Sounddiver. I suspect I will no longer use my synths and thus Sounddiver in a few years - when the G7 comes out that is... Cheers, Steve Hilmy --- Steven Campbell Hilmy I c Æ r µ § ¤ ¥ µ n ¶ Â Washington DC

There is one additonal little benefit when using Logic. Logic will automatically snarf out the patch names and allow you to select programs from menus with names...rather than by number. > -----Original Message----- > From: S.C. da sleeve Hilmy [mailto:icarussound@...] > Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 10:06 AM > To: sounddiver-users@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [SoundDiver] Re: Sounddiver with Gigastudio? > > > > > > Has anyone used Sounddiver with Gigastudio? (My idea was to try and > > "grab" > > the instruments from Giga's memory and send them automatically to > > Logic via > > the Autolink.) > > Interesting idea - though puzzling. One of the great things about > software instruments is the ability to edit and store in a graphic > environment on your computer *without* the need for an ed/librarian- > right?! If I did not have hardware I would not use Sounddiver. > > I suspect I will no longer use my synths and thus Sounddiver in a few > years - when the G7 comes out that is... > > > > Cheers, > Steve Hilmy > > --- Steven Campbell Hilmy > I c ∆ r µ ß § • µ n ∂ ¬ > Washington DC > > UNSUBSCRIBE: email sounddiver-users-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sounddiver->; users/ > > To > unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > sounddiver-users-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > >

S. C. "da sleeve" Hilmy wrote: > > I suspect I will no longer use my synths and thus Sounddiver in a few > years - when the G7 comes out that is... ??? The G7 has been around ever since harmony was invented... ;-)

> Interesting idea - though puzzling. One of the great things about > software instruments is the ability to edit and store in a graphic > environment on your computer *without* the need for an ed/librarian- > right?! Exactly right. However, it would be nice to consolidate everything under one computer and interface. Being able to do instrument selection from Logic, for example, is much more convenient than having to grab my other mouse, turn my head to face the other monitor, then make a change on my Giga PC. Logic can send patch changes to the Giga through the multi-instrument window, but it doesn't know what patch is what, the way it would if I were using EXS24 or another plugin-based sampler. You can sort of do this indirectly - you can export patch lists from Giga, then paste them into Logic. But I was hoping SoundDiver would provide an automated solution. Hopefully Giga 3 will support SysEx...

> >> Does anybody have any suggestions as to why unitor control 3.1 won't >> recognise my AMT8??? > > Hm, my office setup is an AMT8 with three Unitor8 (MkI and II) > daisy-chained, and I did all testing with this setup. So I don't > understand why it doesn't work for you. > > * Is the AMT8 connected to a USB hub? > * Which Unitor8 driver? (SoundDiver 3.1 should give a hint if it's > older than 1.5 which is buggy). > * Which Mac OS X version? > > Beste Gruesse - best regards, > Michael Haydn Hi Michael. I'm afraid I have the same issue here. Much of SD is working but it fails to detect or recognise my 2 AMT8s. G5 Dual 2GHz, 3.5Gb RAM OS X.3.2 Logic 6.3.3 SD3.1XBeta, V1.5 Unitor Driver (Which works just fine, which is why I'm slightly perplexed by SD's failure to do so with them...) SD Absolutely refuses to see the Amt8's which are NOT on a hub, But directly connected to the rear USB port on the G5 to AMT8.1 and chained with Serial Cable to AMT8.2. Also, although I can remotely control My V-amp2 from Logic, the SD control simply refuses to recognise the V-Amp Likewise the D10, although that was always a bugger in OS9 as well. I also seem to have intermittent success downloading the patch lists from several other synths... When I have time ;-0 , I'll compile a detailed report.... and forward it on. Also getting Logic and SD to communicate seems more "difficult" or less reliable than in OS 9, in fact so far, I haven't managed to make it work...... But that could just be me ;-) Best regards Max Hodges

Okay Michael...thx for the clarification... since "set logic instrument" is lost by using Logic/SD in OSX rather than 9.x, if I switch the G4 to OSX and install Logic/SD public beta then could someone please confirm that the two programs have equal access to the Unitor8/AMT8 midi ports, without interfering with each other? In other words, at least I would need to be able to find the best sound in my SD library via SD's audition/play functions and then move the mouse over to Logic's arrange window and manually select the midi port/instrument which will play the sound to which SD caused the midi device to switch..? will this be possible...? thx Kirk Gale --- In sounddiver-users@yahoogroups.com, Michael Haydn <mhaydn@m...> wrote: > > > the "set logic instrument" function in SD is, however, critically > > important to me, > > so I wouldn't make the switch to the OSX public beta of SD if such > > function is > > unavailable due to the Autolink issue.... > > "Set Logic Instrument" is part of AutoLink, so it's currently > unavailable on OS X. > > Beste Gruesse - best regards, > Michael Haydn > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > Dipl.-Inform. Univ. Michael Haydn mhaydn@e... > SoundDiver Group Executive http://www.emagic.de/ > Logic Developer (Control Surface Integration) > Emagic Soft- & Hardware GmbH - Germany Phone: +49 4101 495 0 > Halstenbeker Weg 96, 25462 Rellingen Fax : +49 4101 495 199 > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Hi Michael. My setup is as follows: AMT8 -> straight into usb port on the back of my dual 800 G4. Unitor driver version 1.5 Panther 10.3.2 (clean install, not upgrade from 10.2) Logic 6.3.3 SoundDiver 3.1 beta works great except for the wavestation module which doesn't work with either my wavestation SR or A/D (there is a communication error on everything but the smallest transfers) which both have their own ins and outs on the AMT8. SoundDiver doesn't recognise my AMT8. Unitor Control 3.1 doesn't recognise my AMT8. All core midi apps (including logic) seem to be fine with the AMT8. Very strange. I tried removing things like microsoft mouse and Griffin Powermate USB drivers to no avail. Tomorrow i'll try the other usb port and also try using a hub to see if it makes any difference. Thanks, Lee --- In sounddiver-users@yahoogroups.com, Michael Haydn <mhaydn@m...> wrote: > > Am 25.01.2004 um 15:18 schrieb Lee: > > > Does anybody have any suggestions as to why unitor control 3.1 won't > > recognise my AMT8??? > > Hm, my office setup is an AMT8 with three Unitor8 (MkI and II) > daisy-chained, and I did all testing with this setup. So I don't > understand why it doesn't work for you. > > * Is the AMT8 connected to a USB hub? > * Which Unitor8 driver? (SoundDiver 3.1 should give a hint if it's > older than 1.5 which is buggy). > * Which Mac OS X version? > > Beste Gruesse - best regards, > Michael Haydn > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > Dipl.-Inform. Univ. Michael Haydn mhaydn@e... > SoundDiver Group Executive http://www.emagic.de/ > Logic Developer (Control Surface Integration) > Emagic Soft- & Hardware GmbH - Germany Phone: +49 4101 495 0 > Halstenbeker Weg 96, 25462 Rellingen Fax : +49 4101 495 199 > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Hi, I'm running SoundDiver OEM on XP and tried to connect my Flextone II via USB MidiSport 1x1 having the newest MidiSport Driver. SoundDiver does not list the "Out Midi" Device in its Device box. I tried other programms (GuitarPro, Audio Video Control,..), all of them provide me with a connection via "out midi" for my MidiSport Device. Does anyone known how I can achieve that SoundDiver list the device ? Rainer

Am 27.01.2004 um 15:48 schrieb rainermarrone: > I'm running SoundDiver OEM on XP and tried to connect my Flextone II > via USB MidiSport 1x1 having the newest MidiSport Driver. > SoundDiver does not list the "Out Midi" Device in its Device box. I > tried other programms (GuitarPro, Audio Video Control,..), all of > them provide me with a connection via "out midi" for my MidiSport > Device. Does anyone known how I can achieve that SoundDiver list the > device ? Probably SoundDiver found a problem with this port and switched if off. Normally you should get a notice of this. To re-enable it, open file C:/Windows/Win.ini, search for "[SoundDiver]" and check if there is a line with the name of the port and ending with "=0". Change the ending to "=1". Beste Gruesse - best regards, Michael Haydn - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dipl.-Inform. Univ. Michael Haydn mhaydn@... SoundDiver Group Executive http://www.emagic.de/ Logic Developer (Control Surface Integration) Emagic Soft- & Hardware GmbH - Germany Phone: +49 4101 495 0 Halstenbeker Weg 96, 25462 Rellingen Fax : +49 4101 495 199 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

i have problems opening all my libraries made in OS9, SD gives me an error and i can t open them, maybe is not yet implemented? please let us know thanks Let me know also if someone can open an os9 library in OSX, thanks bye!

> >> Please Mr. Haydn, please please please allow registered sounddiver >> users access to the OSX beta without the need for the XSKey. > > Sorry, but this won't happen. Having access to the public SD beta is a > privilege of Logic 5/6 users. > > Beste Gruesse - best regards, > Michael Haydn Well perhaps I need not write it but that is not the answer I was expecting (since I payed for Sounddiver for our studio while the numerous [and I am sure very nice] Logic users did not pay a thing for this "privilege!!) So my next question is... when will this be remedied? i.e. when will actual Sounddiver owners have the privilege of running Sounddiver in OSX? Sorry for the sarcasm but I am a bit irritated about this...! Cheers, Steve Hilmy --- Steven Campbell Hilmy I c Æ r µ § ¤ ¥ µ n ¶ Â Washington DC

>> Does anybody have any suggestions as to why unitor control 3.1 won't >> recognise my AMT8??? > > Hm, my office setup is an AMT8 with three Unitor8 (MkI and II) > daisy-chained, and I did all testing with this setup. So I don't > understand why it doesn't work for you. > > * Is the AMT8 connected to a USB hub? > * Which Unitor8 driver? (SoundDiver 3.1 should give a hint if it's > older than 1.5 which is buggy). > * Which Mac OS X version? > Hi Michael, In my situation, it is working with the the latest Unitor8 control. However, my AMT8 is never seen by DiverX. It is not really a problem for me, as everything else is seen and I judt use it in the default computer mode. BTW, It is connected directly to a G4 DP533, no hub. Regards, Matt ________________________________________ Matt McKenzie-Smith Composer - Arranger PO Box 10395 Sound Design Adelaide 5000 Logic Programmer South Australia +61416 197 883 ________________________________________

>> >> I suspect I will no longer use my synths and thus Sounddiver in a few >> years - when the G7 comes out that is... > > > ??? The G7 has been around ever since harmony was invented... > > > ;-) OK I meant a G8! Actually someone should tell you this but, really, tonality is dead man. There is no reason any more to worry about such things. At any rate you should at least avoid all those terribly quaint keys like C... Cheers, Steve Hilmy --- Steven Campbell Hilmy I c Æ r µ § ¤ ¥ µ n ¶ Â Washington DC

S. C. "da sleeve" Hilmy wrote: >>??? The G7 has been around ever since harmony was invented... >> >> ;-) > > OK I meant a G8! Actually someone should tell you this but, really, > tonality is dead man. There is no reason any more to worry about such > things. At any rate you should at least avoid all those terribly quaint > keys like C... You mean "Schoenberg rulez, OK?!" Call me old-fashioed, but I (like most of the rest of the world) like a bit of tonality. Gotta agree, though, C is a bit bland... ;-)

My kingdom for a virtual keyboard in the editing windows! Unisyn has it, Galaxy did (RIP Opcode), and it is a very very useful thing to have when you are editing. Or is this one of the features I am missing in (sigh) OSX? Cheers, Steve Hilmy --- Steven Campbell Hilmy I c Æ r µ § ¤ ¥ µ n ¶ Â Washington DC

For FM synths like the TG77 and TX816 (and TX81Z and DX100 - yes I am a fan of frequency modulation and nasty sounding 12 bit converters...) ...It would be very useful to have the carrier be distinguished from the modulator by, say, a difference in color. I suspect this would be a rather trivial modification to the existing profiles assuming they are still alive in (sigh) OSX. Cheers, Steve Hilmy --- Steven Campbell Hilmy I c Æ r µ § ¤ ¥ µ n ¶ Â Washington DC

Well if I am to stay in OS9 for a bit more (aaaargh!) I guess I will tell of a few issues I have been irritated with in Sounddiver recently... When I open the Yamaha TG77 profile I get the message 'Text not found. Check Text Resource for ID 'ms'. Has this been fixed in (sigh) OSX? Cheers, Steve Hilmy --- Steven Campbell Hilmy I c Æ r µ § ¤ ¥ µ n ¶ Â Washington DC

> My kingdom for a virtual keyboard in the editing windows! Unisyn has > it, Galaxy did (RIP Opcode), and it is a very very useful thing to have > when you are editing. This might help you - a floating virtual midi keyboard for OSX and for free! http://www.manyetas.com/creed/midikeys.html

Yeah, I got the exact same issues with OSX and k2500! --- In sounddiver-users@yahoogroups.com, Michael Haydn <mhaydn@m...> wrote: > > Am 05.01.2004 um 20:53 schrieb Colin Shapiro: > > > How about a good old-fashioned *human* reply? > > eg: > > Thanks so much for taking the trouble to report a bug for the new > > SoundDiver beta. We'll add it to our list. > > Have a nice day and please keep those reports coming. > > Yours enthusiastically, > > The Emagic human relations team > > > > see....easy.... > > But time consuming. > > Beste Gruesse - best regards, > Michael Haydn > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > Dipl.-Inform. Univ. Michael Haydn mhaydn@e... > SoundDiver Group Executive http://www.emagic.de/ > Logic Developer (Control Surface Integration) > Emagic Soft- & Hardware GmbH - Germany Phone: +49 4101 495 0 > Halstenbeker Weg 96, 25462 Rellingen Fax : +49 4101 495 199 > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

> > This might help you - a floating virtual midi keyboard for OSX and for > free! > http://www.manyetas.com/creed/midikeys.html Thanks! Unfortunately I am stuck in OS9 for Sounddiver because (sigh) I don't have a Logic dongle despite having paid for Sounddiver unlike many (wonderful people I am told) Logic users who have the privilege of using the OS X version of SD without having paid for it unlike me who... well you get the picture right?! - Steve

Greetings Sounddiver fans. I wave from afar on the old ship "Classic" on a Mac still capable of running said retro OS. I greet you with envy and chagrin oh Logic dongle owners who have the privilege of using SD in an up-to-date OS despite many of you not ever paying for said privilege like I did (I'm not begrudging you mind you...) Anyway I should mention that every time my computer scans for MIDI devices SD crashes hard (and brings down the entire OS - are you still wondering why I am so bent on running my studio in OS X?!) This should not be a problem since I can manually add the devices without any issues, but unfortunately every now and then my hand slips and I accidentally double click on a device in the install window. Invariably and reliably SD crashes and everything falls down dead with it. This happens on two systems both running OMS (latest version written in...ahem...1994) using USB interfaces. A MTP AV network, and a MOTU MIDI express 128 with two fastlane interfaces on extra USB ports. OS is the ancient, venerable, but sadly completely outdated OS 9.2.2. I keep a very lean system, run utilities every Sunday, and generally keep things well oiled so I suspect this is a SD issue or an OMS issue rather than an unhealthy computer issue. Cheers, Steve Hilmy --- Steven Campbell Hilmy I c Æ r µ § ¤ ¥ µ n ¶ Â Washington DC

--- In sounddiver-users@yahoogroups.com, "kirkxyz" <kirk8@u...> wrote: > > Hi guys: > > been using SD and Logic since (what the '80's...?) but Macs are mysterious to > me...and SD is not functioning yet for me in the above system (it can't see the > Unitor 8/AMT 8 when booting after Logic is loaded unless I double click on the > Library entries which I don't wanna do (even w/ Audition enabled)...and > booting SD disables the Logic Control that Logic could otherwise "see." > I have a VERY similar problem and setup, apparently. MDD G4 dual 1G with and AMT8+Unitor II via usb. By itself, SD's ok. With Logic, they don't talk, the midi interfaces can't be seen, LC/XT lose contact etc. It's drivin me NUTS. I do not have OMS installed, nor do I want to have it - it's a clean mac DAW with an all Emagic system. Seems to me it should work! SG

Hello. I´m in trouble with my XSKey. The say me tha tthe definitive code for SD is activated and I cannot launch the 3.1 beta fot OSX. I´m a registered user of SounDiver, I need it (I want to use OSX exclusively), but I cannot access to the 3.1 beta version. I´ve reported tje problem to support@... (more than 15 days ago) and I don´t get reply yet. Anybody knows the estimated release date of the definitive 3.1 version or OS X? (possibly M. Haydn cant reply to this). Regard.