Hallvard, you *must* define a "Single Dump" stringmessage in the bandkdriver for the "Tone", otherwise no sysex is transmitted to your JX8P. See also the Midi Monitor window. Just fill in these fields the exact same message as defined in the "Outgoing Single Dump op...". > I just installed the new MKS-70 adaption recently introduced here, and with > that synth as well, when I select different patches, only the current one > in the synth is played! In other words: the patch doesn't change on the > synth. When selecting a patch from the MKS-70 device window, only a program change is sent to the MKS-70 (that is the old adaptation does that). Let me know what happens. Greetings, Bert Keizer.

At 15:50 +0000 27-11-02, bronswerk wrote: >Hallvard, you *must* define a "Single Dump" stringmessage in the >bandkdriver for the "Tone", otherwise no sysex is transmitted to your >JX8P. See also the Midi Monitor window. Just fill in these fields the >exact same message as defined in the "Outgoing Single Dump op...". This is really all Greek to me. Some parameters are adjustable in the adaption on my Atari ST, while others give me a "not enough memory" error message which of course isn't true as I have plenty of memory left over. I really need someone with knowledge about adaption editing to look it over. I've tried comparing the old adaption with the new one, trying to find out where the differences are found, but that's a little hard when it's not possible to print out the adaption settings (I've tried). If someone could help with the adaption I'd be happy to try it out with my JX-8P. >> I just installed the new MKS-70 adaption recently introduced here, >and with >> that synth as well, when I select different patches, only the >current one >> in the synth is played! In other words: the patch doesn't change on >the >> synth. > >When selecting a patch from the MKS-70 device window, only a program >change is sent to the MKS-70 (that is the old adaptation does that). I'll see what I can find out. Hallvard -- Notator/Creator SL : <http://www.notator.org>; Atari Launchpad : <http://launchpad.atari.org>;

Send your "not so good working" Atari-adaptation from the JX8P to bronswerk@... If adaptations are really compatible, then I can investigate the problem in a Windows version. Greetings, Bert Keizer.

is there an adaptation for > the TC Electronic G-Force? If there is, where might I find it? Hey, I'll second that one but I don't think you'll find many guitar players in here so a G-Force adaptation might be up to us. There is a decent Gr-33 adaptation though and a patchlist for the Korg A2. Jon

At 20:39 +0000 27-11-02, bronswerk wrote: >Send your "not so good working" Atari-adaptation from the JX8P to >bronswerk@... I uploaded it and announced it here a few days ago. Anyone can get at it by going to: http://home.c2i.net/st_hall/new_jx8p_adaption.zip But I've also mailed it directly to you now. Thanks for wanting to look into it. Hallvard -- Notator/Creator SL : <http://www.notator.org>; Atari Launchpad : <http://launchpad.atari.org>;

Hi, Hallvard. Both old and new JX adaptations do send the same 'Parameter Change' messages to JX. So I haven't understood why your JX does not 'Audit.' What Tone is selected when you tweak the sound with your new adaptation? I have in mind the possibility that the new adaptation happens to select a different Tone other than the currently edited. Sealed

At 23:40 +0900 28-11-02, sealed wrote: >Both old and new JX adaptations do send the same 'Parameter Change' messages >to JX. So I haven't understood why your JX does not 'Audit.' Hmmm... I'm not familiar with the actual parameters of the adaptions, but all I know is that the "new adaption doesn't seem to fully work as it should. >What Tone is selected when you tweak the sound with your new adaptation? >I have in mind the possibility that the new adaptation happens to select >a different Tone other than the currently edited. OK, here's what happens: first the "old" adaption (the one that comes with the Sounddiver installation disks): With a librarian window open, whenever I single-click on a sound, that sound is played on the synth. The JX-8P display shows an "M" in front of the currently selected sound within the synth. I guess that "M" means it's in temporary memory, though I have no idea what it stands for. I've only seen the letters "C" (cartridge), "I" (internal) and "P" (preset) before, so this is probably some sysex thing which normally isn't available within the synth itself. Hmmmm... I noticed something which I haven't thought that much about and could be the cause of my problems... I haven't really used Sounddiver for very long, so this might be something elementary which I should know, but the memory manager window contains a "Tone" section with room for one sound, and underneath it is a section with room for 32 sounds named "Internal tones". To be able to audit the sounds I have to click once on the "tone" section (making it invert). After that I can click on any sound in the current library window, which is then audited (played) from the synth. I notice that the "tone" section receives the currently clicked sound from the library window, so I'm guessing this is some sort of temporary window. OK, moving on to the "new" adaption which handles 32 tones at once... Here the memory manager window looks the same as the previous one, but the "internal tones" window is what receives the sounds, and that at a total of 32 (a complete bank). I knew it was techincally possible to dump a whole bank at once from the JX-8P since another librarian I have for the Atari ST allows for this ("Super librarian"). Anyway, the "tone" section in this window shows the sound I've selected from the librarian window, just as with the old adaption, but whenever I single-click on a sound (either in the memory manager window or the librarian window, the synth plays the currently selected sound on the synth itself (i.e. the sound I've selected from the JX-8P's own "bank" and "tone" buttons. Instead it *should* play the sound I've clicked on in Sounddiver, and the JX-8P's display should show the name of that sound, but it doesn't. In addition to the new JX-8P adaption I've also uploaded the "old", original adaption to the same site. Both of them can now be gotten here: http://home.c2i.net/st_hall/ Hallvard -- Notator/Creator SL : <http://www.notator.org>; Atari Launchpad : <http://launchpad.atari.org>;

HI, i was using SD with ME until i moved on to XP. SD with this OS is pretty much a waste of time. so, i figured i could split my computer to boot either ME (for SD use) or XP (for other stuff) or go with 2000 and XP. the benefits of going 2000 and XP will be the use of NTFS throughout. however, i have not tried SD with 2000. has anyone used SD on both ME and 2000 that would be able to share the program stability on each? thank you. brian

I don't know what's the trouble with your setup, but my SD runs perfectly smoothly on XP. Did you set the buffer to 1kB? You need to specify, what the problem is if you want to get specific help. White Rabbit Radovan Klusacek Email: Radovan@... Phone: +61-421 636 058 www.musicbeyond.net -----Original Message----- From: ududidj [mailto:brian@...] Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2002 7:45 AM To: sounddiver-users@yahoogroups.com Subject: [SoundDiver] any prefs on which OS to use: 2000 vs. ME? HI, i was using SD with ME until i moved on to XP. SD with this OS is pretty much a waste of time. so, i figured i could split my computer to boot either ME (for SD use) or XP (for other stuff) or go with 2000 and XP. the benefits of going 2000 and XP will be the use of NTFS throughout. however, i have not tried SD with 2000. has anyone used SD on both ME and 2000 that would be able to share the program stability on each? thank you. brian Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

Hi, I found that the modified version of JX-8P adaptation recently made uses "Outgoing Single Dump (optional)" SysEx strings in its Bank Driver. Does anyone know what this means? I couldn't find it in our latest programming manual (still for SD ver. 2.02). Is it the feature added in SD3, though I couldn't find it in the change history? Thanks in advance. Regards, Sealed

Hi, I recently got a Sony HR-MP5 multi-effector without a manual, and wish to make an adaptation to edit it with SD. If anyone has access to its SysEx document, please let me know. Thanks in advance. Sealed

>Hi, > >I found that the modified version of JX-8P adaptation recently made uses >"Outgoing Single Dump (optional)" SysEx strings in its Bank Driver. > >Does anyone know what this means? "Outgoing single dump" is a fairly new addition to the Universal module. It could very well be that this is an incompatibility between the (old) Atari version and the newer versions. In a nutshell: For a few (usually very old) devices the dump the device sends is different from the dump the device receives and understands. Yes, it's very unusual. Some examples are the Voyetra 8 and the Casio CZ synths. That's why you have an optional "outgoing" dump in the adaptation. -- Malte Rogacki gacki@... ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Don't forget to TURN ON THE SYNTHESIZER. Often this is the reason why you get no sound out of it." (ARP 2600 Owner's Manual) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------

>Hi, > >I recently got a Sony HR-MP5 multi-effector without a manual, and wish >to make an adaptation to edit it with SD. >If anyone has access to its SysEx document, please let me know. Thanks >in advance. Forget it. The whole SysEx implementation was very bad (like having the HR-MP5 in a specific state to receive any SysEx at all - a bit like the good ol' tape interface). I doubt that any remote programming is implemented at all. -- Malte Rogacki gacki@... ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Don't forget to TURN ON THE SYNTHESIZER. Often this is the reason why you get no sound out of it." (ARP 2600 Owner's Manual) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Thank you very much for your help, Malte. It's a good option to enhance the Universal Module's capability. > >Hi, > > > >I found that the modified version of JX-8P adaptation recently made uses > >"Outgoing Single Dump (optional)" SysEx strings in its Bank Driver. > > > >Does anyone know what this means? > > "Outgoing single dump" is a fairly new addition to the Universal module. It > could very well be that this is an incompatibility between the (old) Atari > version and the newer versions. > > In a nutshell: For a few (usually very old) devices the dump the device > sends is different from the dump the device receives and understands. Yes, > it's very unusual. Some examples are the Voyetra 8 and the Casio CZ synths. > That's why you have an optional "outgoing" dump in the adaptation. > > > -- > Malte Rogacki gacki@... > --------------------------------------------------------------------- ------- > "Don't forget to TURN ON THE SYNTHESIZER. Often this is the reason why you > get no sound out of it." (ARP 2600 Owner's Manual) > --------------------------------------------------------------------- -------

Thanks very much again for your prompt reply. I'm very glad to be helped with my new questions. You rescued me from spending time to search around in vain.... > >Hi, > > > >I recently got a Sony HR-MP5 multi-effector without a manual, and wish > >to make an adaptation to edit it with SD. > >If anyone has access to its SysEx document, please let me know. Thanks > >in advance. > > Forget it. The whole SysEx implementation was very bad (like having the > HR-MP5 in a specific state to receive any SysEx at all - a bit like the > good ol' tape interface). I doubt that any remote programming is > implemented at all. > > -- > Malte Rogacki gacki@... > --------------------------------------------------------------------- ------- > "Don't forget to TURN ON THE SYNTHESIZER. Often this is the reason why you > get no sound out of it." (ARP 2600 Owner's Manual) > --------------------------------------------------------------------- -------

I have try to installed the version 3.01 and .3.02 on Mcos 8.01 and 9.0 but when i start it a message say :I have try to installed the version 3.01 and .3.02 on Mcos 8.01 and 9.0 but when i start it a message say : MAC DIALOGS LIB. NOT FOUND end the program go down. can you help me.

I have try to installed the version 3.01 and .3.02 on Mcos 8.01 and 9.0 but when i start it a message say :I have try to installed the version 3.01 and .3.02 on Mcos 8.01 and 9.0 but when i start it a message say : MAC DIALOGS LIB. NOT FOUND end the program go down. can you help me.

At 9:28 Uhr +0000 01.12.2002, teknonico wrote: >I have try to installed the version 3.01 and .3.02 on Mcos 8.01 and 9.0 >but when i start it a message say :I have try to installed the >version 3.01 and >.3.02 on Mcos 8.01 and 9.0 >but when i start it a message say : MAC DIALOGS LIB. NOT FOUND >end the program go down. Did you already try version 3.0.4. I think there was an older SoundDiver version which required a system library which is actually not necessary. -- Beste Gruesse - best regards, Michael Haydn - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dipl.-Inform. Univ. Michael Haydn mhaydn@... SoundDiver Group Executive http://www.emagic.de/ Logic Developer (Logic Control integration) Emagic Soft- & Hardware GmbH - Germany Phone: +49 4101 495 0 Halstenbeker Weg 96, 25462 Rellingen Fax : +49 4101 495 199 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

--- In sounddiver-users@y..., Colin Shapiro <musos@i...> wrote: > [...] > Then, select all, and drag them to the Wavestation's Memory > manager window and they will be loaded right then. > > Or, you could drag the "Greatest Hits" patches one by one into > specific locations in the memeory manager, sorted by kind > (bass/pad/lead/etc) and when you have a good selection, select all, > and drag them back into a new library window. Once you saved this > library, you can load it at any time. [...] As a newbie I am confused on this issue. By "memory manager" do you mean the SD device window? I am not clear on moving items back and forth between the library and the device windows. Also when I try "build library>All Editable entries" I only get a few items. Why?

There have been some posts in the past on this, but I was wondering if the Orbit 3 issues ever got resolved. The ROMS/Instruments don't register right when I use the P2k or XL-1 Turbo drivers and also neither have full support of the Arp and BEATS functions available on the Orbit 3. If there is no way to get around this, is there a way to edit the P2k or XL-1 drivers instead of creating an Orbit 3 driver from scratch?

> -----Original Message----- > From: seel_hole [mailto:igfarben@...] > Sent: Montag, 2. Dezember 2002 03:07 > To: sounddiver-users@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [SoundDiver] Orbit 3 > > There have been some posts in the past on this, but I was wondering > if the Orbit 3 issues ever got resolved. The ROMS/Instruments don't > register right when I use the P2k or XL-1 Turbo drivers and also > neither have full support of the Arp and BEATS functions available on > the Orbit 3. If there is no way to get around this, is there a way > to edit the P2k or XL-1 drivers instead of creating an Orbit 3 driver > from scratch? Strange. The Beat Garden ROM (which is, according to E-mu's website, the Orbit 3's sound ROM) is supported in the SD module, and also the arps and beats (which are now, with OS 2.26, accessible in any version of the P2K). I have uploaded a new version of the module (file "Pro2000 20021202.zip" in the files section of this yahoogroup), please download and try it to check if any of our latest bugfixes already cure your problem. Also make sure to install the latest OS version from the E-mu website on your Orbit3. Regards, - Jens emagic

>--- In sounddiver-users@y..., Colin Shapiro <musos@i...> wrote: >> [...] >> Then, select all, and drag them to the Wavestation's Memory >> manager window and they will be loaded right then. >> >> Or, you could drag the "Greatest Hits" patches one by one into >> specific locations in the memeory manager, sorted by kind >> (bass/pad/lead/etc) and when you have a good selection, select all, >> and drag them back into a new library window. Once you saved this >> library, you can load it at any time. [...] > >As a newbie I am confused on this issue. By "memory manager" do you >mean the SD device window? Sorry, yes I do. Must have been a term from way back. > I am not clear on moving items back and >forth between the library and the device windows. The device window mirrors your synth. A library can contain entries from all your synths, or one device only. A library doesn't "intrude" on the arrangement of sounds in your hardware. When you drag an entry from a device to a library, you do so merely for sorting, storage, backup etc. When you drag an entry from your library to the device window, you are either writing that sound into your hardware memory location, or into a temp buffer, depending on the synth. >Also when I >try "build library>All Editable entries" I only get a few items. Why? Can't help on that - I never use this function. Michael, someone....? Regards - Colin

Hello. I'm making an adaptation and would like to use the virtical sliders in MAP handling mode. I put the sliders in my adaptation and set them to MAP mode. In MAP mode, I can set values to the sliders by one click, without dragging. When I drag the mouse horizontally, I can control other sliders at once. I think this is a great feature. The problem is: There is a MAP mode slider whose value ranges from 0 to 63. When I click the top part of the slider, value 13 is set. When I click the middle of the slider, value 4 is set. To set value 63, I have to click the slider and drag more than 200pixels above. I wish: When I clicked the top of the slider, value around 63 could be set. When I clicked the middle of the slider, value around 32 could be set. In this way, input values would be consistent to where clicked. I'd like to ask: Is it normal behaviour of SD and do I misunderstand the concept of MAP mode? If not, how could I ameliorate this? Thanks in advance. Regards, Sealed

At 13:13 Uhr +0200 02.12.2002, Colin Shapiro wrote: > >try "build library>All Editable entries" I only get a few items. Why? > >Can't help on that - I never use this function. Michael, someone....? "Editable" means edit buffers, i.e. entries for which you can open an editor window. If you want to save the user memory contents, choose "Memory Entries". -- Beste Gruesse - best regards, Michael Haydn - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dipl.-Inform. Univ. Michael Haydn mhaydn@... SoundDiver Group Executive http://www.emagic.de/ Logic Developer (Logic Control integration) Emagic Soft- & Hardware GmbH - Germany Phone: +49 4101 495 0 Halstenbeker Weg 96, 25462 Rellingen Fax : +49 4101 495 199 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

At 22:06 Uhr +0900 02.12.2002, sealed wrote: >The problem is: >There is a MAP mode slider whose value ranges from 0 to 63. >When I click the top part of the slider, value 13 is set. >When I click the middle of the slider, value 4 is set. >To set value 63, I have to click the slider and drag more than 200pixels >above. > >I wish: >When I clicked the top of the slider, value around 63 could be set. >When I clicked the middle of the slider, value around 32 could be set. >In this way, input values would be consistent to where clicked. > >I'd like to ask: >Is it normal behaviour of SD and do I misunderstand the concept of MAP >mode? >If not, how could I ameliorate this? >Thanks in advance. It seems this is an oversight in the new slider scaling feature. Set the slider scaling to 0, and it should work as expected. -- Beste Gruesse - best regards, Michael Haydn - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dipl.-Inform. Univ. Michael Haydn mhaydn@... SoundDiver Group Executive http://www.emagic.de/ Logic Developer (Logic Control integration) Emagic Soft- & Hardware GmbH - Germany Phone: +49 4101 495 0 Halstenbeker Weg 96, 25462 Rellingen Fax : +49 4101 495 199 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -