At 15:07 +0000 28.08.02, juleanasimon wrote: >with device you mean the vl1? Yes - I didn't remember it was the VL1. >thats what you suggested in the last post. i can >not exclude that the vl1 is the problemmaker, thats true. > >so i would have to verify that both the wx5-controler and the editor-messages >comes out of the amt8. that seems so (i described in one of the >posts that if the >editor-message is sent before note-off of the controler then it works, but no >workable solution). You mean you want to play the VL1 with the WX5 while editing the VL1 with SoundDiver? With the AMT8, all incoming channel messages should be thru'd to the active device (which is the VL1 while you are editing it). >maybe SD/amt8 does not send everything needed ? I doubt that. >perhaps its the serial >connection? No. >perhaps its patchbay which i have to use according to yamaha >(settings: port enabled checked, interfacetype: 1mhz, timecode in/out none, >filter timecode in not checked), Where did you make these settings? I don't quite understand your setup. -- Beste Gruesse - best regards, Michael Haydn - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dipl.-Inform. Univ. Michael Haydn mhaydn@... SoundDiver Group Executive http://www.emagic.de/ Logic Developer (Logic Control integration) Emagic Soft- & Hardware GmbH - Germany Phone: +49 4101 495 0 Halstenbeker Weg 96, 25462 Rellingen Fax : +49 4101 495 199 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

At 09:02 -0600 28.08.02, Peter Fischer wrote: > > At 20:30 Uhr -0600 27.08.2002, Peter Fischer wrote: > > >Can't seem to get autolink to work with AMT8 Mac (9.2) K2500 (3.02), > > >01v, digi 001 using D i/o. SoundDiver works by itself, but as soon as i > > >quit, load Logic (5.2), then open i get error messages of all the > > >devices not responding and cannot rescan or anything. I have tried all > > >i know including archives, PRAM, preferences, etc. What is frustrating > > >is that I had 4.73 up and running just fine with all the same stuff--no > > >problems for about the last 2 years. So what can I try or what little > > >thing am i being stupid about. btw, Logic also works by itself . . . Which connection do you use in Logic's communication preferences? -- Beste Gruesse - best regards, Michael Haydn - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dipl.-Inform. Univ. Michael Haydn mhaydn@... SoundDiver Group Executive http://www.emagic.de/ Logic Developer (Logic Control integration) Emagic Soft- & Hardware GmbH - Germany Phone: +49 4101 495 0 Halstenbeker Weg 96, 25462 Rellingen Fax : +49 4101 495 199 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

juleanasimon wrote: > i am editing the VL1m and there is a SD-adaption (debus, this list) which i like, > but as an adaption it does not feature a few important functions (tuning, > copying of elements). these features can be found in an old (unsupported) > editor from yamaha, which needs a serial connection and apple's midi > manager and patchbay (which i run on top of unitor8 setup). AFAIK the Yamaha VL expert editor does not require the Apple MIDI manager. But it works only with the modem port. > the problem is > the merging of the controler (wx5) with the messages from the editor. although > i succeeded several times to set it up, i usually can not reproduce it > immediately. sometimes it takes hours until it works suddenly. > my workaround is: i use my old mt4 as a midimerger. this works immediately > but it needs another computer to run. the other possibility is to run the > controler through another synth. both the mt4 and this synth seem to filter the > "active sensing" (since there is no flashing on the input channel) so i thought it > could be the reason for the midi-merging problems on the amt8. > any thoughts? julean I've often heard that some MIDI mergers don't process Sysex correctly. I don't think that Active Sensing (or the absence of it) is the problem. This message is optional and everything should work fine with or without it. Ingo

hi i checked the posts but cant find a problem that looks like mine 1) i have OS 1.24 but 1.11 shows up in soundiver 2) composer preset names show up in preset list but when i request i get "unknown" or "prc misc" for sample name 3) if i select "composer rom" in rom selection i can select sample but preset sample is lost 4) if i dont select "composer rom" soundiver crashes (as in "divide by zero" debug?) do i have to go back to os 1.11? anyone else see something like this? will this be addressed in a new release? will there be a new release for win 98/p2k os 1.24? thanks trevor

Hi List, I posted this a week ago and nobody answered. Is there anywhere an editor-module for Yamahas 02R? The librarian by Michael is nice, but I need a working editor. Does someone have informations on this? -- Grüße... ...Maik (PGP-key on request) Phone: (+49) 0711-336 18 83 * Mobile: (+49) 0172-714 50 36 Fax´n´Phone: (+49) 01805-060 334 021 12 Please _don´t_ send *.doc-files. Plain-ASCII, *.rtf, *.PDF or Mac-files! http://maik_waschfeld.bei.t-online.de/ http://www.Maik-Waschfeld.de/ ...the manual said: Win 95/NT or better, so I used MacOS (X) and MagicMac.

> -----Original Message----- > From: imdeo [mailto:deo@...] > Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 10:36 AM > To: sounddiver-users@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [SoundDiver] problems with p2k 1.24 and composer rom > > hi > i checked the posts but cant find a problem that looks like mine > > 1) i have OS 1.24 but 1.11 shows up in soundiver Probably, you have added the P2000 to your setup when you still had 1.11 installed, and upgraded to 1.24 after that. So, you have to delete the Proteus 2000 from your setup and re-add it using the automatic scan function. This is the only way for SD to find out what OS version the device has. > 2) composer preset names show up in preset list > but when i request i get "unknown" or "prc misc" for > sample name > 3) if i select "composer rom" in rom selection i can select sample > but preset sample is lost > 4) if i dont select "composer rom" soundiver crashes > (as in "divide by zero" debug?) The problems 2) to 4) are probably related to 1) (there shouldn't be a crash like in 4) of course, but I can't repro it here), so please try and tell me if re-scanning helped. > do i have to go back to os 1.11? of course not. > anyone else see something like this? > will this be addressed in a new release? No new release necessary ;-) > will there be a new release for win 98/p2k os 1.24? see above. The Pro2000 is already supported up to the latest OS release (including an arps and beats editor for the 2.xx OSes). Regards, - Jens emagic

On Wednesday, August 28, 2002, at 06:14 AM, Michael Haydn wrote: <Snip> <<You can use the MT4 stand-alone by just connecting it to a powered USB hub. Such hubs are very cheap nowadays. The hub does not have to be connected to a computer.>> So Michael, do you mean we, AMT8 users, can power our interfaces in the same way and remove those power adapters? How about Unitor8 MKII<>AMT8 chain, can this be done, or should one power the last unit in the chain from the adapter since power is not supplied via the RS422 port? Thanks for any info. Best, Andy P.S. do you guys know any other list where the manufacturing company's reps would be as helpful as Michael? One more reason (of course if I needed any extra) to stay with Emagic for my MIDI related work.

thank you so much thats exactly what happened everything is fine now sorry to seem so snitty but i am realy bummed out by the whole no more pc thing but this quick reply has increased my confidence a great deal i will miss sd if i had to give it up i got 4 emu modules and a jv1010 plus ms2k all working fine with sd (even have the cm motormix controling the emu's) once again thanks for the quick reply trevor --- In sounddiver-users@y..., "Jens Altfelder" <jaltfelder@m...> wrote: > > -----Original Message----- > > From: imdeo [mailto:deo@c...] > > Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 10:36 AM > > To: sounddiver-users@y... > > Subject: [SoundDiver] problems with p2k 1.24 and composer rom > > > > hi > > i checked the posts but cant find a problem that looks like mine > > > > 1) i have OS 1.24 but 1.11 shows up in soundiver > > Probably, you have added the P2000 to your setup when you still had 1.11 > installed, and upgraded to 1.24 after that. > > So, you have to delete the Proteus 2000 from your setup and re-add it > using the automatic scan function. This is the only way for SD to find > out what OS version the device has. > > > 2) composer preset names show up in preset list > > but when i request i get "unknown" or "prc misc" for > > sample name > > 3) if i select "composer rom" in rom selection i can select sample > > but preset sample is lost > > 4) if i dont select "composer rom" soundiver crashes > > (as in "divide by zero" debug?) > > The problems 2) to 4) are probably related to 1) (there shouldn't be a > crash like in 4) of course, but I can't repro it here), so please try > and tell me if re-scanning helped. > > > do i have to go back to os 1.11? > > of course not. > > > anyone else see something like this? > > will this be addressed in a new release? > > No new release necessary ;-) > > > will there be a new release for win 98/p2k os 1.24? > > see above. The Pro2000 is already supported up to the latest OS release > (including an arps and beats editor for the 2.xx OSes). > > Regards, > - Jens > emagic

--- In sounddiver-users@y..., Michael Haydn <mhaydn@m...> wrote: > At 14:45 +0000 28.08.02, juleanasimon wrote: > >i am afraid then its getting really offtopic :) but how could i > >verify this? does > >this explain that it works using a midimerger or by routing the wx5 through > >another synth? > > Hm. What kind of messages are merged? channel 1: messages from the vl1-expert-editor (yamaha) - i guess sysex, channel 2: wx5-controler (to test the changes made in the editor)- guess midi ... > I just wanted to mention that merging SysEx messages works only up to > a certain message length. But I bet you won't find any MIDI merger > which can merge SysEx messages of any length. i am getting confused - i am not looking for a merger: as described before using an mt4 as an external merger with the amt4 works fine, but my question is why it does not work with the amt8 alone, which should be capable of merging. >You mean you want to play the VL1 with the WX5 while editing the VL1 >with SoundDiver? With the AMT8, all incoming channel messages should >be thru'd to the active device (which is the VL1 while you are >editing it). yes, but the editor i am using in this case is vl1-expert edit (yamaha). with the sd it is working - what merging concerns. thnx michael, julean

> -----Original Message----- > From: imdeo [mailto:deo@...] > Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 11:41 AM > To: sounddiver-users@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [SoundDiver] Re: problems with p2k 1.24 and composer rom > > thank you so much > thats exactly what happened > everything is fine now > > sorry to seem so snitty > but i am realy bummed out by the whole no more pc thing > but this quick reply has increased my confidence a great deal > i will miss sd if i had to give it up why would you? as we have stressed previously, no emagic Windows software will actually stop working at the end of september... - Jens emagic

Hi Michael, Sorry for the OT post but I unsubscribed from the Logic list. As you porbably know Steinberg recently proposed VST system link whereby 2 or more computers that are networked together can have 2 lotsof Cubase running and one computer can be designated a kinf of VST synth slave while the other computer runs cubase and anything else needed. Although intypical Steinberg style their implementation is a big kludge it got me thinking. With Logic 10.2 the introduction of Rendezvous has really revolutionised the ease of setting up a Mac network and making all the macs aware of eachother. So, I was wondering. would it be possible in a future version of logic to enable two or more computers to be designated as virtual plug-in racks leaving the main computer to concentrate on the sequenicng and recording. In OS 10.2 there are already folders marked VST so would it be possibly for Logic to navigate to the VST folders on other Macs on a network and use them as if they were running all on the same computer? The outputs from the VST plug-ins would be fed back into the host Mac via Ethernet and would basically mean older macs coudl still be pressed into useful service. I hope you follow what I am suggesting and that this coudl be made possible. If so it would further stomp the pulp out of cubase :) Kind Regards, Spike _______________________________________________________________________ Freeserve AnyTime, only £13.99 per month with one month's FREE trial! For more information visit http://www.freeserve.com/time/ or call free on 0800 970 8890

Don't know if this has been covered on this list already, but is there a suitable adaption / module for the Triton LE? does the Triton one work? Ta muchly... Nick

Does anyone have any information on what to do with a CD that has passed several other authorizations but is now failing? I am the original owner of the CD with the original computer and same operating system (Windows ME) that was in place when I originally installed the software. Now the CD will not authorize. I suspect this is another reason why emaigc is giving up on this platform-too many bugs in the software that they have built. I have found all of the rest of their software is basically untested and full of gross errors and faulty bugs. Makes one wonder why they ever entered into the ballgame. Of course the customer service in North America is non existant. My several emails to to emagic go unopened and unread. I guess corporate irresponsibility is not just an American phenomena. Seems the more customers an enterprise obtains the more cavalier the attitude of shoving it to the customer.

At 09:55 PM 8/29/2002 +0000, you wrote: >Does anyone have any information on what to do with a CD that has >passed several other authorizations but is now failing? I am the >original owner of the CD with the original computer and same >operating system (Windows ME) that was in place when I originally >installed the software. Now the CD will not authorize. > >I suspect this is another reason why emaigc is giving up on this >platform-too many bugs in the software that they have built. Nah, this happens all the time on the Mac version as well. Usually it just means trying it a couple times, maybe a cold reboot inbetween. Have you tried anything like that? I haven't had it happen in over a year (when the last update was released probably) so I can't remember what exactly I did in that situation. But I remember it being somthing simple like what I mentioned above. Just a thought... Colin Miller

From: "Michael Haydn" <mhaydn@...> > At 17:01 -0400 12.07.02, Danny wrote: > >I just had to re-insert my SoundDiver CD under Windows for re-authorization > >which reminded me... > > > >Is the capability of using the X-Key for future SoundDiver verification > >checks still in the works for SoundDiver users using Windows? > > > >I just get a bit nervous about having to use the SoundDiver CD verification > >check forever... > > Frankly: I don't know yet. This will decided next week. > -- > > Beste Gruesse - best regards, > > Michael Haydn > EMAGIC Soft- und Hardware GmbH > SoundDiver Group Executive > Logic Developer (Logic Control integration) > Unitor8 Control Project Manager Hi Michael, Just wanted to see if the issue of having SoundDiver verification under Windows moved into XKey has been decided yet? Like another poster here on the list today, I am again being asked for my CD for verification and it doesn't seem to be recognizing the CD again... Thanks, Danny

--- In sounddiver-users@y..., "Jens Altfelder" <jaltfelder@m...> > > i will miss sd if i had to give it up > > why would you? as we have stressed previously, no emagic Windows > software will actually stop working at the end of september... > > - Jens > emagic that's true but by its nature sd needs continuous support for new devices (unless i misunderstood and emagic will be adding new devices after september) so how would i get updates to new synths after september? thanks trevor

--- In sounddiver-users@y..., Colin Miller <snoopy@m...> wrote: > At 09:55 PM 8/29/2002 +0000, you wrote: > >Does anyone have any information on what to do with a CD that has > >passed several other authorizations but is now failing? > Nah, this happens all the time on the Mac version as well. Usually it just > means trying it a couple times, maybe a cold reboot inbetween. Have you > tried anything like that? I haven't had it happen in over a year (when the > last update was released probably) so I can't remember what exactly I did > in that situation. But I remember it being somthing simple like what I > mentioned above. Just a thought... > > Colin Miller Been there. Done that. Several times. REstarted, warm reboot with CD in tray. etc, etc, etc. This has happened several times in the past, and all else failing ( I do mean ALL else) I reformatted the hard drive to get around the problem. That layed the issue to rest until another 6 wks rolled around and the old CD authorization gremlin popped up its ugly head and now I'm back at square one. I stand by my original statements about bugs in the emagic programming techniques, although I think Bill Gates & CO are as much to blame because of incessant receipt of updates, the operating system changes constantly. They (Microsoft) claim needs to beef up security. Should not be necessary but I suspect we are in a predatory race against the hackers.

rphenicie wrote: > Been there. Done that. Several times. > REstarted, warm reboot with CD in tray. etc, etc, etc. > This has happened several times in the past, and all else failing ( I > do mean ALL else) I reformatted the hard drive to get around the > problem. That layed the issue to rest until another 6 wks rolled > around and the old CD authorization gremlin popped up its ugly head > and now I'm back at square one. Could be the CD driver. Have you changed driver versions sinc it last worked? Or have you tried cleaning the Sounddiver CD ? Dave Eager

Hi, rphenicie wrote, > REstarted, warm reboot with CD in tray. etc, etc, etc. > This has happened several times in the past, and all else failing ( I > do mean ALL else) I reformatted the hard drive to get around the > problem. I don't know if this will still work on the OS that you are on (it did work in Win98) but try the following. Find a file named aspienum.vxd and rename it aspienum.vxd.bak. I believe that the file is in the WindowsSystem folder. Start up SD and put the CD in when it asks you to re-authorize. It should authorize it for you. Rename the aspienum.vxd.bak file back to its original state. I don't know if this file changed in subsequent OS versions or not. This is the trick that I always used with great success when I was on Win98. HTH and good luck, Fernstudio

At 02:11 -0700 29.08.02, Andy Hardwake wrote: >So Michael, do you mean we, AMT8 users, can power our interfaces in the same >way and remove those power adapters? No. Only the MT4 is bus-powered. AMT8 and Unitor8 are self-powered. Their power supply is required. >How about Unitor8 MKII<>AMT8 chain, can >this be done, or should one power the last unit in the chain from the >adapter since power is not supplied via the RS422 port? Thanks for any info. Irrelevant. Each AMT8/Unitor8 unit needs its own power supply. >Best, > >Andy > >P.S. do you guys know any other list where the manufacturing company's reps >would be as helpful as Michael? One more reason (of course if I needed any >extra) to stay with Emagic for my MIDI related work. :-) -- Beste Gruesse - best regards, Michael Haydn - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dipl.-Inform. Univ. Michael Haydn mhaydn@... SoundDiver Group Executive http://www.emagic.de/ Logic Developer (Logic Control integration) Emagic Soft- & Hardware GmbH - Germany Phone: +49 4101 495 0 Halstenbeker Weg 96, 25462 Rellingen Fax : +49 4101 495 199 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

At 09:52 +0000 29.08.02, juleanasimon wrote: > i am getting confused - i am not looking for a merger: as described before >using an mt4 as an external merger with the amt4 works fine, but my question >is why it does not work with the amt8 alone, which should be capable of >merging. You say the AMT8 fails where the MT4 works? -- Beste Gruesse - best regards, Michael Haydn - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dipl.-Inform. Univ. Michael Haydn mhaydn@... SoundDiver Group Executive http://www.emagic.de/ Logic Developer (Logic Control integration) Emagic Soft- & Hardware GmbH - Germany Phone: +49 4101 495 0 Halstenbeker Weg 96, 25462 Rellingen Fax : +49 4101 495 199 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

At 12:31 +0100 29.08.02, Nick Wagstaff wrote: >Don't know if this has been covered on this list already, but is there >a suitable adaption / module for the Triton LE? does the Triton one >work? The Triton module is not compatible, but a Triton LE module is already finished and will be released with SoundDiver 3.0.5. -- Beste Gruesse - best regards, Michael Haydn - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dipl.-Inform. Univ. Michael Haydn mhaydn@... SoundDiver Group Executive http://www.emagic.de/ Logic Developer (Logic Control integration) Emagic Soft- & Hardware GmbH - Germany Phone: +49 4101 495 0 Halstenbeker Weg 96, 25462 Rellingen Fax : +49 4101 495 199 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

At 21:55 Uhr +0000 29.08.2002, rphenicie wrote: >Does anyone have any information on what to do with a CD that has >passed several other authorizations but is now failing? I am the >original owner of the CD with the original computer and same >operating system (Windows ME) that was in place when I originally >installed the software. Now the CD will not authorize. Are you sure you haven't changed anything in the system, especially installed an ASPI driver? There are some ASPI driver versions which don't handle CD read errors correctly. >I suspect this is another reason why emaigc is giving up on this >platform-too many bugs in the software that they have built. Oh really? >I >have found all of the rest of their software is basically >untested and full of gross errors and faulty bugs. Interesting. Examples please. >Makes one wonder >why they ever entered into the ballgame. >Of course the customer service in North America is non existant. There are many users who reported the exact opposite. They have received a reply in 1-2 work days. >My several emails to to emagic go unopened and unread. Which email address did you write to? -- Beste Gruesse - best regards, Michael Haydn - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dipl.-Inform. Univ. Michael Haydn mhaydn@... SoundDiver Group Executive http://www.emagic.de/ Logic Developer (Logic Control integration) Emagic Soft- & Hardware GmbH - Germany Phone: +49 4101 495 0 Halstenbeker Weg 96, 25462 Rellingen Fax : +49 4101 495 199 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

>Does anyone have any information on what to do with a CD that has >passed several other authorizations but is now failing? As someone else mentioned, try cleaning the CD. Also, what condition is the CD in? Has the surface been scratched? I get shocked how people I know treat CD's. Even people in the computer business, who should know better, take no care whatsoever. I'm not saying you have mistreated your CD, I'm just saying that a lot of people do. I guess a lot of people think it doesn't matter if the surface gets scratched. Sure, the CD spec includes some error correction, but the safest course of action is to keep the surface pristine so the error-checking routines aren't needed.

Any possibility of a Kurzweil PC2 module? Thanks