>Oh. > >And, you know.. I could try the bundled midi interface with my M-Audio >AudioPhile on a diff computer now that I think about it.. > >I still can't conceive that MOTU is the bottleneck. Unless, of course >you could send me some hard evidence convincing me of such. Heh.. Would be countless complaints about MotU interfaces be enough evidence? Problems that went away when using a simple SoundBlaster card? You're right about the hardware being really good and the drivers being crappy. But guess who writes those drivers? It's MotU, not Emagic. It might partly have something to do with MotU being mostly a Mac company (and in fact on the Mac those interfaces work quite good). Their Windows drivers were notoriously flakey, though. I don't know if this has changed for the recent line of products. -- Malte Rogacki gacki@... ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Don't forget to TURN ON THE SYNTHESIZER. Often this is the reason why you get no sound out of it." (ARP 2600 Owner's Manual) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------

I guess I will just use my M-Audio Audiophile. Has anyone tried the Roland A-880? Does it work well? Or another 8x8 that excludes the AMT8 (I don't care for the AMT8). -----Original Message----- From: Malte Rogacki [mailto:gacki@...] Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2002 12:21 PM To: sounddiver-users@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [SoundDiver] Re: SoundDiver and Virus - PC Lock Up Problems! >Oh. > >And, you know.. I could try the bundled midi interface with my M-Audio >AudioPhile on a diff computer now that I think about it.. > >I still can't conceive that MOTU is the bottleneck. Unless, of course >you could send me some hard evidence convincing me of such. Heh.. Would be countless complaints about MotU interfaces be enough evidence? Problems that went away when using a simple SoundBlaster card? You're right about the hardware being really good and the drivers being crappy. But guess who writes those drivers? It's MotU, not Emagic. It might partly have something to do with MotU being mostly a Mac company (and in fact on the Mac those interfaces work quite good). Their Windows drivers were notoriously flakey, though. I don't know if this has changed for the recent line of products. -- Malte Rogacki gacki@... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- "Don't forget to TURN ON THE SYNTHESIZER. Often this is the reason why you get no sound out of it." (ARP 2600 Owner's Manual) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

>I bought an AMT8 once, it was a piece of @#$)( and they didn't even >include the power supply in a shrinkwrapped box. So.. I got the MOTU >instead. I don't think this is a hardware problem Mike. I think this is >a software issue. Are you guys talking about the MOTU MidiTimepiece AV? If so, I threw mine out the window after 100 lockups or so. Heck, the thing would lock itslef up even when every cable was disconnected but power. I don't think they are all like that, but I will never use a MOTU MIDI interface again after that experience. *shiver*

OMS emulator has opened the "REASON" door to my Digital Performer, but closed my Sound Diver Door!!! Is anyone using OMS emulator successfully with Sound Diver? Thanks. :: digithead ::

In theory, SoundDiver's Pro200 module should already support the Orbit3, because it's basically a Proteus 2000 with different sound ROMs. However, we have not been able to test it because we don't have an Orbit3 device here at emagic. Maybe Rob Papen (designer of the Orbit 3 sounds) is reading this, I remember him being subscribed to this list as well. If so, Rob, what are your experiences - I know you're using SoundDiver a lot? Regards, - Jens emagic > -----Original Message----- > From: shawnhargreaves [mailto:shawnh@...] > Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2002 2:15 PM > To: sounddiver-users@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [SoundDiver] Orbit3 support? > > Does anyone know if the Sounddiver Proteus2000 module works with the > new Orbit3 synth, or if not, are there any plans to add such support? > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

> -----Original Message----- > From: Michael Haydn [mailto:mhaydn@...] > Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2002 6:40 PM > To: sounddiver-users@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [SoundDiver] Does SoundDiver 2.1.3 work in Windows ME? E-mu > proteus 2000 > > At 20:41 +0000 27.07.02, rphenicie wrote: > > Sounddiver seemed > >to always think that I had a new computer if I so much as changed the > >color of my wallpaper and I would have to rescan the memories in P2K. > > To get details about the bug fixes and enhancements in specific > modules, see the individual file download area > (http://www.emagic.de/english/support/download/sd30win/sda.html). In > your case, go on to E-mu, Pro2000, Changes > (http://www.emagic.de/english/support/download/sd30win/pro2000.html). > However it seems this page does not really answer your question. In > this case Jens will have to give a comment... Never heard of that problem, sorry... - Jens

At 12:11 -0500 28.07.02, Cyberlusion wrote: >I bought an AMT8 once, it was a piece of @#$)( ??? Many users state that all their MIDI problems went away with the AMT8. > and they didn't even >include the power supply in a shrinkwrapped box. Blame the dealer, not us. From our side, every AMT8 comes with a power supply, user manual, two cables, CD and registration card. >So.. I got the MOTU >instead. I don't think this is a hardware problem Mike. I think this is >a software issue. Yes, a driver issue. The driver is by MOTU, not us. -- Beste Gruesse - best regards, Michael Haydn - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dipl.-Inform. Univ. Michael Haydn mhaydn@... SoundDiver Group Executive http://www.emagic.de/ Logic Developer (Logic Control integration) Emagic Soft- & Hardware GmbH - Germany Phone: +49 4101 495 0 Halstenbeker Weg 96, 25462 Rellingen Fax : +49 4101 495 199 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

>> I bought an AMT8 once, it was a piece of @#$)( > > ??? Many users state that all their MIDI problems went away with the AMT8. > >> and they didn't even >> include the power supply in a shrinkwrapped box. > > Blame the dealer, not us. From our side, every AMT8 comes with a > power supply, user manual, two cables, CD and registration card. Same thing re the power supply here too. Actually it came from the national distributor with no PS. Derringers happily fixed me up with one though. Also, one of the rack ears was a bit bent. (i think it must have been thrown from the airplane as it came over Australia ;-) ) Bloody good interface though!!! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Matt McKenzie-Smith PO Box 10395 Adelaide BC 5000 South Australia +618(0)82938282 +61(0)416 197 883 mattrixx@...

Ha! The one I ordered was from ZzSounds, must've been on the same shipment! NeWays.. just bought another MOTU on ebay today for my road show stuff. I'm not doing anything real complex with it anyway, so It should do for 100$ At least I hope! -----Original Message----- From: Matt McKenzie-Smith [mailto:mattrixx@...] Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 7:19 AM To: sounddiver-users@yahoogroups.com Subject: [SoundDiver] Re: SoundDiver and Virus - PC Lock Up Problems! >> I bought an AMT8 once, it was a piece of @#$)( > > ??? Many users state that all their MIDI problems went away with the AMT8. > >> and they didn't even >> include the power supply in a shrinkwrapped box. > > Blame the dealer, not us. From our side, every AMT8 comes with a > power supply, user manual, two cables, CD and registration card. Same thing re the power supply here too. Actually it came from the national distributor with no PS. Derringers happily fixed me up with one though. Also, one of the rack ears was a bit bent. (i think it must have been thrown from the airplane as it came over Australia ;-) ) Bloody good interface though!!! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Matt McKenzie-Smith PO Box 10395 Adelaide BC 5000 South Australia +618(0)82938282 +61(0)416 197 883 mattrixx@... Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

Hi there. I´m new SD, but so far ALMOST every synth in the studio is set up right and the request worked just fine. As others, I¹m waiting for a XV-5050 patch, but is there a custom made driver for the old Kurzweil 1000PX Plus module out there? No editor needed ­ just the setup (Master) and program request. Please help me with this old tank! In advance ­ thank you for any help. ---------------------------------------------------- Mvh Halstein / Sarg Musikkproduksjon AS Elvevn. 52 - Postboks 2032 - 3255 Larvik tlf 33120580 ­ faks 33120581

>Hi there. > >I´m new SD, but so far ALMOST every synth in the studio is set up right and >the request worked just fine. >As others, I'm waiting for a XV-5050 patch, but is there a custom made >driver for the old Kurzweil 1000PX Plus module out there? No editor needed - >just the setup (Master) and program request. Please help me with this old >tank! I'm afraid that this isn't quite as easy since (if I recall correctly) the 1000 series had variable sized dumps which required a lot of work. So I think an adaptation will not do the job. -- Malte Rogacki gacki@... ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Don't forget to TURN ON THE SYNTHESIZER. Often this is the reason why you get no sound out of it." (ARP 2600 Owner's Manual) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------

I am using the beta module in SD 3 Mac. Why does it take 25 minutes to dump the entire contents of the 3080 memory into SD? My JV 1080 took about 5 minutes. Also, the JV 1080 module had a nice feature (drop down menu item) on the performance edit page that let you insert the original patch's effects settings into a performance. Where is the equivalent of that feature on the 3080 performance edit page? Thanks My rig: PowerMac G4 (Quicksilver) 867, 1.2 gig RAM, OS 9.2, LAM 5.1.2, MOTU 1224, AMT 8

Hi. I'm a Japanese musician and I recently became a SoundDiver owner. I'm enjoying its great capabilities and began learning how to make an adaptation. Would someone teach me how to tweak two (or more) parameters at the same time? My Yamaha TG55 has two filters per one oscillator. I want to make a slider in my adaptation that controls the cutoff frequency for both filters. Could it be possible in an adaptation? Thanks in advance. Sealed

________ Roger King London UK Having problems with several devices in SD: Alesis QS6.1 - Program FX are reset to a kind of 'do nothing' default state when requesting more than one program in one go. Strangely, a small proportion of the requested programs are unaffected - it seems to be chance as to which programs remain unaffacted. EMU E4k - EOS 4 unsupported, which (I assume) would explain why links get screwed up when copying a preset. Yamaha CS6R - several issues: a) I had to manually install the module since nothing I try enables the scan function to find it, despite the units display showing that it is apparently responding to incoming midi b) some parameters apparently unsupported by SD, eg insert fx series/parallel routing, temporary element muting, non-standard controllers not numbered in the controller assign pop-ups. c) performance edit - parts whose receive channel is set to "off" (the only way of muting a part) still receive on channel 1, this despite the fact that the unit's display also reads 'off'. d) voice edit - enable a previously disabled element (by selecting a waveform other than "000 - Off"), store, recall the voice on the unit itself and that same element has reverted to "off". Korg TR-Rack - it's perhaps unfair to point the finger at SD on this one but twice now the TR has frozen while receiving a bulk dump from SD and each time has had to be 'reset' by a service agent at some cost. SD3.04 QuickSilver G4 733 MacOS 9.22 Unitor8 Mk1 via Stealth port All above problems observed with and without OMS and with/without Autolink I should say that: a) I like SD in general a lot and it works very well with other devices that I have b) I value Michael H's support and good grace within this user group very highly, not to mention other module and adaptation authors c) I appreciate that SD is not a high volume product and probably needs a fair amount of work to keep it anything like up to date d) Some of my problems may well have simple solutions But. Three of the modules/adaptations for the five synths that I use for live work are sufficiently crippled to make them next to useless for preparing and archiving my keyboard setup so SoundDiver really isn't working for me at the moment. Michael has intimated that SD isn't a major revenue generator for Emagic and the Apple buyout and the apparent recent integration of some SD code within Logic might suggest that there is some doubt over its long term future. Might I make so bold as to suggest that SD is currently underpriced and should probably be sold on a subscription basis in order to remain a viable, ongoing product. Regards to all, Roger ________ Roger King London UK

sealed wrote: > > Hi. > I'm a Japanese musician and I recently became a SoundDiver owner. I'm > enjoying its great capabilities and began learning how to make an adaptation. > > Would someone teach me how to tweak two (or more) parameters at the same > time? > My Yamaha TG55 has two filters per one oscillator. I want to make a slider > in my adaptation that controls the cutoff frequency for both filters. The TG77 module has a button to "Link Filters" so you can do exactly that. *IF* the TG55 module has the same function it'd save you the trouble of making an adaptation.

Yet another vote for X-Key authorization of Sound Diver. I realize that this could be a tough decision, and may create some tension amoung the Sound Diver users who don't wan't to have a dongle, but if you are moving forward with the X-Key for all other products, why not include it in Sound Diver as well. CD Authorization is not without its problems. I just had to send my CD back to get a replacement CD because it stopped working in my Mac. --- In sounddiver-users@y..., Michael Haydn <mhaydn@m...> wrote: > At 09:05 -0400 23.07.02, Danny wrote: > >I am checking back to see if the issue of moving the SoundDiver CD > >protection scheme over to the X-Key had been decided yet? > > No, not yet. > -- > > Beste Gruesse - best regards, > > Michael Haydn > EMAGIC Soft- und Hardware GmbH > SoundDiver Group Executive > Logic Developer (Logic Control integration) > Unitor8 Control Project Manager

Thank you very much for your reply. In fact, the TG55 adaptation doesn't have the "Link Filters" function like the TG77 module. (though I very much hope it had) Sealed > sealed wrote: > > > > Hi. > > I'm a Japanese musician and I recently became a SoundDiver owner. I'm > > enjoying its great capabilities and began learning how to make an adaptation. > > > > Would someone teach me how to tweak two (or more) parameters at the same > > time? > > My Yamaha TG55 has two filters per one oscillator. I want to make a slider > > in my adaptation that controls the cutoff frequency for both filters. > > The TG77 module has a button to "Link Filters" so you can do exactly > that. *IF* the TG55 module has the same function it'd save you the > trouble of making an adaptation.

where can i find information on integrating Sd with logic i still can't figure it out thx Eli

--- In sounddiver-users@y..., Colin Miller <snoopy@m...> wrote: > > >I hope SOME DAY we get a functional quick Roland XV-5080 module. > > > >Steve > > What's so unfunctional about it> While I don't doubt there may be some bugs > (none reguarding the way I use it), All the basic features seem to be in > order (as opposed to the 3.04 version of the triton module where some banks > can't even be accessed (gonna try the new beta soon)). > > Colin Miller I really meant the speed, it is so slow for me. And I guess we need an updated module to work with new SRX cards (I got the new Supreme Dance SRX card and would like to be able to easily edit the rhythm kits to create my own). I have a Korg Triton-Rack but haven't used SoundDiver too much with it, I guess I should check that out. Steve

At 07:17 +0900 30.07.02, sealed wrote: >Would someone teach me how to tweak two (or more) parameters at the same >time? >My Yamaha TG55 has two filters per one oscillator. I want to make a slider >in my adaptation that controls the cutoff frequency for both filters. It is possible by creating an envelope object with a single dot (which results in an x/y joystick object), with the x axis connected to cutoff 1 and the Y axis connected to cutoff 2. Currently there is no other way to create a macro / easy page object in adaptations. -- Beste Gruesse - best regards, Michael Haydn - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dipl.-Inform. Univ. Michael Haydn mhaydn@... SoundDiver Group Executive http://www.emagic.de/ Logic Developer (Logic Control integration) Emagic Soft- & Hardware GmbH - Germany Phone: +49 4101 495 0 Halstenbeker Weg 96, 25462 Rellingen Fax : +49 4101 495 199 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

sealed wrote: > > Thank you very much for your reply. > In fact, the TG55 adaptation doesn't have the "Link Filters" function > like the TG77 module. > (though I very much hope it had) There's another feature I know virtually nothing about cos I've never used it, but AFAIK you can control SoundDiver parameters with MIDI controllers. Maybe you could control both filters with the same controllers? Anyone know more about this?

Hello to be fair the K1xxx family needs a midi handshaking in the SD module .. promised long time ago and never implemented :-( i am begging Michael since years :-)) cos i have 2 k1200 pro I ... amazing machines ! i even offer to borrow one to emagic ... as desperate as i was .. opss .. am !:-) Regards -------------------------------------ENV1-----ENV2---ENV3------------ Andrea TONI VCO1 | | Science Operation and Data VCO2-->--VCF--->VCA-->DUCATI 996 Systems Division (SCI-SD) VCO3 / | | -------------------------------------LFO1-----LFO2---LFO3------------ email: Andrea.Toni@... web: www.rssd.esa.int > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 21:44:32 +0200 > From: Malte Rogacki <gacki@...> > Subject: Re: Kurzweil 1000PX Plus driver > > >Hi there. > > > >I´m new SD, but so far ALMOST every synth in the studio is set up right and > >the request worked just fine. > >As others, I'm waiting for a XV-5050 patch, but is there a custom made > >driver for the old Kurzweil 1000PX Plus module out there? No editor needed - > >just the setup (Master) and program request. Please help me with this old > >tank! > > I'm afraid that this isn't quite as easy since (if I recall correctly) the > 1000 series had variable sized dumps which required a lot of work. So I > think an adaptation will not do the job. > > -- > Malte Rogacki gacki@...

At 09:43 +1000 30.07.02, Bill Canty wrote: >The TG77 module has a button to "Link Filters" so you can do exactly >that. *IF* the TG55 module has the same function it'd save you the >trouble of making an adaptation. The "Link Filters" switch is a feature of the SoundDiver SY77 module, not of the TG77. It is currently not possible to create such a switch with an adaptation. -- Beste Gruesse - best regards, Michael Haydn - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dipl.-Inform. Univ. Michael Haydn mhaydn@... SoundDiver Group Executive http://www.emagic.de/ Logic Developer (Logic Control integration) Emagic Soft- & Hardware GmbH - Germany Phone: +49 4101 495 0 Halstenbeker Weg 96, 25462 Rellingen Fax : +49 4101 495 199 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

>Might I make so bold as to suggest that SD is currently underpriced and >should probably be sold on a subscription basis in order to remain a viable, >ongoing produc We used to use PolyFrame, SD's predecessor on Atari. If I remember correctly, PolyFrame cost several hundred UK Pounds and came with *one* module only, with possibly the purchaser specifying which one. Additional modules cost something like GBP50. Altogether, a much more sensible idea from Emagic's (nee C-Lab) perspective, and probably not a problem perhaps for professional users. But such a pricing structure would no doubt cut out the home/semi-pro users which is maybe why EMagic dropped it.

At 18:56 +1000 30.07.02, Bill Canty wrote: >There's another feature I know virtually nothing about cos I've never >used it, but AFAIK you can control SoundDiver parameters with MIDI >controllers. Maybe you could control both filters with the same >controllers? Anyone know more about this? Yes, this is possible. You can create multiple assignments linked to the same incoming message. -- Beste Gruesse - best regards, Michael Haydn - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dipl.-Inform. Univ. Michael Haydn mhaydn@... SoundDiver Group Executive http://www.emagic.de/ Logic Developer (Logic Control integration) Emagic Soft- & Hardware GmbH - Germany Phone: +49 4101 495 0 Halstenbeker Weg 96, 25462 Rellingen Fax : +49 4101 495 199 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -