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Can anyone help with a link that works!. Emagic homepage seems to have
dificulties with its doenloading capabilities.
Best Regards
Stig Christensen
visit www.sc-musik.dk
Stig Christensen (12:15 AM 11/19/1999) wrote:
>Can anyone help with a link that works!. Emagic homepage seems to have
>dificulties with its doenloading capabilities.
I have a mirror up:
http://www.midiwall.com/sd_mirror
Mark
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Check out the Waldorf Q: http://www.midiwall.com/q
lately I've been investigating SD in a non usual manner
I have a slightly complicated rig with a lot off effects,synth,etc all
responding to prg ch.
the idea was to build an adaptation that could remember the prog ch
settings of my rig and send them
could also be a set of c.controlers, sys ex strings, whatever can be
sent at one point thru midi to my rig (ok no midi clock)
see it as the SD memory manager or library sending by a click a burst of
setup messages to the toys, this in a very elegant manner as the entries
can have long names, have a date, comments attached to them in the
library
a personnal rig setup database
As I'm using an opcode 8port se and the rig is on different out ports I
out put the prg ch to LB1 and with use of multiple instances of
midiloopback to the toys port
everything is there in soundiver to build such a setup ada; its even
working (i did it) but tedious to program
If you never tried to build an ada you probably can stop here :=)
some small things that could help a lot
an option for all the editor objects that when selected would change the
behaviour of sound diver as follows:
when you click on an SD entry (autosurf) the messages that are described
in the editor objects (Message collumn on the bottom) are send with the
parameter values "VAL" that are saved in the entry
a new value for each editor object that would mute it for the current
"snapshoot"
meaning that only the "unmuted" objects are sent when recalling
this
entry
I could go on but just those two mods could interest a lot of people
which could even take SD on stage with a small laptop with a midi
interface.
you get the idea ?
good night
Claude
One feature that I think would be great, would be to have a function where
you could take an existing module and create the adaptation equivalent of
it.
This would allow people to update out-of date modules all on their own,
without having to repeat everything that's already there.
An example is my Akai S3000xl sampler. There is an S3000 module, but no
S3000_XL_ module (or adaptation). The difference between the two models is
that the later S3000xl supports a Multi mode. The sysex structure of the
S3000xl builds directly upon that of the previous models, so it would be a
big timesaver to be able to press a button, and ZAP! - there's an adaptation
version of the module that I can modify, as opposed to creating everything
from scratch.
Hope this makes sense.
-Markus (not Fritze :-)
[...]
> Hope this makes sense.
The idea is totally clear... but that's impossible due to the
completely different nature of a module - which is more
like a seperate program just using the user interface and
environment from SoundDiver.
--
Regards & Gruesse from Mickey @ http://www.Vanille.de
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How could anyone know me - when I don't even know myself ?
Dear Michael
Okay - I understand that SDiver doesn't have a debug feature, but it still
does it even when opened without using the debug feature.
The symptoms are:
Opening sound-diver while logic is running causes Sound diver to give an
error sound (it sounds like daffy duck tripping over on a bannana peel, you
know - a cartoon slliip! - and it's not part of he control panel system
sounds, so the sound is generated by sound-diver itself).
This sound occurrs a second or two after I launch SD, right before the
"splash" sound that normally accompanies the opening of SDiver.
It DOES NOT do this if Logic is NOT running.
Is there a way to start Sound-diver in a logged mode, or something, so I can
check what's going on?
TIA
-Markus
Mon, 15 Nov 1999 15:56:20 +0100
From: Michael Haydn <mhaydn@xxxx.xxxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: Error Beep, but no message.
At 10:47 +1100 13.11.99, Markus McCulloch wrote:
>So, by using the debug feature at a dos prompt, I was able to make the
>program generate this message; "Cannot open file 1. Unknown File
type."
SoundDiver does not have a "debug" feature. The only command line
parameter it knows is any file it is supposed to open. If you start
SoundDiver by entering "SoundDiver -debug", it will try to open a
file "-debug". The strange error message is a bug which I just
corrected. It should read "SoundDiver cannot open file
"-debug".
Unknown File type."
Beste Gruesse - best regards,
Michael Haydn
Hi Michael
I notice that there are several features that are not included in the SY-85
adaption (name server, and editors, mainly). That's fine - I don't mind
programming them myself, as it's a good way to learn more about MIDI
instruments in general. I'm just at the stage where I feel I could begin to
attempt it.
My questions are;
Have these features been left out because the sysex implementation of the
SY-85 won't support them? (ie; am I wasting my time in trying to add this
functionality?)
Why isn't the name server supported, even though the patch names can be seen
in the memory manager? Is it because of the fact that different Bank Select
messages are used depending on whether the synth is in Multi mode, or
Program / Voice mode (and there's no way to know - as a programmer - which
bank selects the user will have programmed in to logic?
If so, should I attempt to create a new adaptation that works with the multi
settings ONLY (ie; treat the multi part of the unit as a separate instrument
with a different adaptation)?
If I manage to wade through this MIDI jungle alive and emerge at the other
side with a new version of the adaptation with editors, etc. do you guys
want it? - or is it too much like "old news - hell, no one bought one
of
those things anyway"?
I guess most of all I just want to know if this is possible to do, and has
just been omitted from the official adaptation because of time restraints,
or if it's the synth itself, and I am wasting my time (I haven't seen
anything so far that would suggest this - it would just be nice to have it
confirmed before I spend lots of time on it, only to reach a dead-end).
Thanks
-Markus
> From: "Charlie de la Rosa" <jcdelarosa@...>
>
> Hello:
>
> I've been off the Logic user group list for a while, and I went to
Onelist
> to subscribe and did so, but I haven't hardly gotten any messages. I
was
> able to post a message and received one reply, but the traffic is
nothing
> like I recall several months ago. Has the list died or did I subscribe
> incorrectly? I've received nothing else for a couple of days now.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Charlie de la Rosa
>
Charlie,
The LUG surely has not died and by average is geberating between 100-150
emails a day!
The list resides on this page:
http://www.onelist.com/community/logic-users
You can even choose what you want:
- receive single messages
- receive digest messages
- not receive messages but check the web site.
More info on how to subscribe and general Logic User info can be found at:
http://www.logicuser.net
Happy Lugging ;-)
Ron Bommelé
The Netherlands
At 16:20 +0000 18.11.99, Chris Thorne wrote:
>Unisyn gets around the
>issue of sounds not matching by allowing you to pick which parameters of
a
>patch are 'blended'.
And exactly this is a lot of work.
Beste Gruesse - best regards,
Michael Haydn
EMAGIC Soft- und Hardware GmbH
SoundDiver Group Executive
Logic Windows Developer
Unitor8 Control Project Manager
At 20:08 +0200 18.11.99, nico herz wrote:
>ok.... is it possible to tell me ,wich release and when it comes up ?
Release dates and feature sets of new releases are announced only by
official Emagic statements.
Beste Gruesse - best regards,
Michael Haydn
EMAGIC Soft- und Hardware GmbH
SoundDiver Group Executive
Logic Windows Developer
Unitor8 Control Project Manager
Until Triton module is completed, is it possible to adapt a portion of the
Trinity module for use with SD?
Also, any idea (weeks or months) before Triton is complete?
Thanks,
Michael Davis
At 11:28 +1100 19.11.99, Markus McCulloch wrote:
>One feature that I think would be great, would be to have a function
where
>you could take an existing module and create the adaptation equivalent
of
>it.
This is not possible by design. Module can contain any type of code,
written in the C programming language.
Adaptations are only template files without any code. It's like "I
want the engine of a Ferrari 550 built in a bicycle."
At 11:28 +1100 19.11.99, Markus McCulloch wrote:
>An example is my Akai S3000xl sampler. There is an S3000 module, but no
>S3000_XL_ module (or adaptation). The difference between the two models
is
>that the later S3000xl supports a Multi mode. The sysex structure of the
>S3000xl builds directly upon that of the previous models, so it would be
a
>big timesaver to be able to press a button, and ZAP! - there's an
adaptation
>version of the module that I can modify, as opposed to creating
everything
>from scratch.
We decide carefully which devices can be supported by Adaptations,
and which require Modules. The Akai samplers are a typical example.
Their architecture is quite weird, e.g. links from Programs to
Samples are done by name, not by patch number - so we need a Module,
as Adaptations allow only links by patch number.
Beste Gruesse - best regards,
Michael Haydn
EMAGIC Soft- und Hardware GmbH
SoundDiver Group Executive
Logic Windows Developer
Unitor8 Control Project Manager
At 12:02 +1100 19.11.99, Markus McCulloch wrote:
>Opening sound-diver while logic is running causes Sound diver to give an
>error sound (it sounds like daffy duck tripping over on a bannana peel,
you
>know - a cartoon slliip! - and it's not part of he control panel system
>sounds, so the sound is generated by sound-diver itself).
If you mean the "Plop" sound: this is generated by Logic and gives
a
hint that something has happened with AutoLink, either an AutoLink
client (i.e. SoundDiver) has signed on or off, or an Instrument has
been created by AutoLink. This sound can currently not be switched
off.
Beste Gruesse - best regards,
Michael Haydn
EMAGIC Soft- und Hardware GmbH
SoundDiver Group Executive
Logic Windows Developer
Unitor8 Control Project Manager
At 12:37 +1100 19.11.99, Markus McCulloch wrote:
>Have these features been left out because the sysex implementation of
the
>SY-85 won't support them?
No, the Adaptation is simply very old, and we did not yet have the
time to add these features (also due to lack of a test unit).
>If so, should I attempt to create a new adaptation that works with the
multi
>settings ONLY (ie; treat the multi part of the unit as a separate
instrument
>with a different adaptation)?
No, simply extend the existing one.
>If I manage to wade through this MIDI jungle alive and emerge at the
other
>side with a new version of the adaptation with editors, etc. do you guys
>want it?
If it work yes. But it's probably simpler to extend the existing one.
And: you could try to copy and paste the editors object of the TG500
Adaptation as a starting point.
Please read the Universal Module Programming Manual thorougly before.
Beste Gruesse - best regards,
Michael Haydn
EMAGIC Soft- und Hardware GmbH
SoundDiver Group Executive
Logic Windows Developer
Unitor8 Control Project Manager
At 1:07 -0800 19.11.99, Claude Voit wrote:
>when you click on an SD entry (autosurf) the messages that are described
>in the editor objects (Message collumn on the bottom) are send with the
>parameter values "VAL" that are saved in the entry
This is a planned feature. (Transmit will send all parameter changes
- if there is no Single Dump or Bank Dump message defined).
At 1:07 -0800 19.11.99, Claude Voit wrote:
>a new value for each editor object that would mute it for the current
>"snapshoot"
>meaning that only the "unmuted" objects are sent when
recalling this
>entry
I don't see the sense for such a feature.
Beste Gruesse - best regards,
Michael Haydn
EMAGIC Soft- und Hardware GmbH
SoundDiver Group Executive
Logic Windows Developer
Unitor8 Control Project Manager
At 9:12 +0000 19.11.99, msuno1@... wrote:
>Until Triton module is completed, is it possible to adapt a portion
>of the Trinity module for use with SD?
No, the Triton is completely different.
>Also, any idea (weeks or months) before Triton is complete?
As I said before, we don't disclose release dates except in official
announcements.
Beste Gruesse - best regards,
Michael Haydn
EMAGIC Soft- und Hardware GmbH
SoundDiver Group Executive
Logic Windows Developer
Unitor8 Control Project Manager
At 20:30 +0100 18.11.99, John van Hulst wrote:
>But why you (the
>program) set every midi driver to '=1'. There's no need to do this (I
>guess) except for the midi driver that handles the JV-1010 (in my case
the
>AWE 64G). Anyway, it works now!
Yes, but how can SoundDiver know where the JV-1010 is connected to
before it has been scanned?
Beste Gruesse - best regards,
Michael Haydn
EMAGIC Soft- und Hardware GmbH
SoundDiver Group Executive
Logic Windows Developer
Unitor8 Control Project Manager
Chris Thorne schrieb:
> Ive been using sound diver and MOTUs unisyn. Much as I prefer
> sounddiver, the blend function on unisyn (for me) enables me to quickly
put
> together useful new sounds.
Yes, I remember a feature in old Steinberg Editors for ATARI (Korg
M1 Editor it was, i think) where you even could blend with the mouse
between up to four sounds. I loved this feature because it made sence.
> Michael Haydn wrote:
>
> > Blend is difficult to implement for a universal editor/librarian,
as
> > there are many devices with dynamic data structures. If the two
> > patches don't match in structure, it does not make sense to blend
> > their parameters.
>
> But at a simple level, MIDI sysex is a collection of numerical values,
and
> sounddiver has knowledge of what each of those values represents. Sure
it is
> not 'logical', but since when did music (or sound design) obey all the
rules?
> And for where the patches DO match in structure...
I would also love to have a random feature, to be able to change
sounds slightly. I used this a lot on my old ATARI Editors
(some ten years ago, those were the days...).
Greetings
Stefan
--
Stefan Petersilge
Music Producer
Hamburg
Germany
visit me at http://members.xoom.com/sangitom/
At 23:47 +0200 18.11.99, nico herz wrote:
>2:i open the virus editor in sounddiver (in autolink with logic).
> i edit the sound as desired(worx fine).
> then i want to make settings for the assignables,f.e. modwheel
> >cutoff>amount63.
> = NOTHING HAPPENS!!!
Ouch, you found a bug in Logic Audio. It filters out any note-related
events when transmitting outgoing MIDI from an AutoLink client. Will
be fixed in the next Logic Audio release (not 4.0.6 which is already
out).
Beste Gruesse - best regards,
Michael Haydn
EMAGIC Soft- und Hardware GmbH
SoundDiver Group Executive
Logic Windows Developer
Unitor8 Control Project Manager
Can anyone help with the following problems?
1) I don't get any performance names from my Roland A 90, it seems that the
request is performed but afterwards the names don't appear in Sounddiver
(ver 2.0.10r1-latest). The A 90 has rom version 2.11. The midimonitor shows
that names are being dumped, but they don't show up in the memory-manager.
2) Autolink with my Proteus 2 don't work. When i'm trying to use
"update use
autolink" I get a message, that Sounddiver can't find a matching
channel and
port, allthough all the names are shown in Sounddiver!
3) I can't get Sounddiver to recognize my Nordlead when I'm trying to
install it.
Best Regards
Stig Christensen
visit www.sc-musik.dk
A question to all you experts out there.
I’m working with my pod on a B&W G3, running Logic 4 and the OEM
Sounddiver and everything is running well.
But sometimes the both of us, my pod and me have to work at another place
where a good, old atari is present, running Logic 2.5 the last atari version
of logic.
Q.: Is it possible to bring pod sounds I created or downloaded on the
mac-sounddiver to the atari (logic) without overwriting the pod presets?
Thanks a lot
Stefan
I use Soundiver 2.0.10 and I've some problems to control all parameters
of the sampler with soundiver.
I'm on Mac 8.6 on a 9600/200.
Is anyone has some experience with ASR 10.
Thanks allready...Phil...
you mentioned a week or two ago that the bug in the qs series about
modifying the mix settings is being looked into. without trying to be too
impatient about it, is there a current workaround and what is the timetable
as to when it will be fixed?
thanks
sy
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Hi
Thanks for your help regarding the flurry of emails i sent in yesterday.
Your presence here is invaluable to all.
-Markus
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