Hello I am a newbie. This may be a Logic question.I am having problems acessing exp patches on my Roland 2080 in Logic. When I am using Autolink should'nt I be able to do this? Any tricks when I am not using Autolink? Thanks Nick

At 06:42 -0700 30.05.01, John Bair wrote: >But seriously, it would be very nice if the full manual were available >on-line in a searchable format like PDF or HTML. We would like to also, but this would help software pirates... -- Beste Gruesse - best regards, Michael Haydn EMAGIC Soft- und Hardware GmbH SoundDiver Group Executive Logic Audio Developer Unitor8 Control Project Manager

Hi John, > snip < > But seriously, it would be very nice if the full manual were available > on-line in a searchable format like PDF or HTML. A big reason is due to the software piracy that goes on today. While some people may dispute this, I believe that piracy has never been higher because of the internet. Prior to just a few years ago, I did not even realize that there were such things as crack versions. I knew about copies of disks and CD's but not actual cracks. Now, even if you're not looking for it, it practically comes to you. >Oh, you're right - there it is - page 224 - plain as day. How did I ever >miss that? Sorry, I guess I didn't see the footnote in the newsgroup - >please read all 464 pages of the manual twice through and score 85% or >better on an exam before asking any questions! Again related to the above. A lot of people on the list do not answer the most basic of questions (this is one of them) when it can be found in the manual. Again, people who have paid their hard-earned money for software and bought it legit hate seeing someone get a free ride. With the rise in crack users on both the Sounddiver and Logic lists, I spend less time answering questions and so on for that very reason. If you haven't found it yet, it should be quite easy to find. You'll probably find it in the section where it explains the particular screen you're looking at (ie the Library list or the memory contents windows). I'm sorry but I don't have the manual with me to give you a page number. Regards, Fernando

Hi I am also trying to dump my MKS-80 sounds into Soundiver 3.0.4. Pardon my ignorance but how do you actually send all those SYSEX messages from the computer to the module? Is this done within Soundiver or is their a special program I can download. Your help is greatly appreciated. Thanks > > "Here is how to SYSEX the illusive MKS-80 and simulate the handshaking > required > by the MKS-80 to complete its SYSEX dump. Without the handshaking, the > MKS-80 will dump no more than 4 patches. The following HEX code can be > sent to the MKS-80 > and the entire memory will be dumped. The SYSEX file should be 4086 > bytes long. That includes > 16 blocks of 255 bytes in each block. Each block is 4 voices. Then the > MKS-80 will send 6 more > blocks as an 'end of SYSEX' msg. The MKS-80 transmits the F7 byte at the > end of each block > of 4 voices which most sysex devices that are not capable of "multiple > sysex receive" > interpret as an "end of sysex" message. > With the front panel Midi Function set to III and the memory switch set > to 'midi', > you need to send the MKS-80 this ::: > > SEND - F0 41 41 00 20 4D 4B 53 2D 38 30 00 F7 > > This tells the MKS-80 that sysex dump requests are coming. > > SEND - F0 41 43 00 20 F7 > > This tells the MKS-80 to dump 4 programs. > > Repeat F0 41 43 00 20 F7 - each time the MKS-80 will dump 4 more > patches. > > The last time (17 times total) you send F0 41 43 00 20 F7, the MKS-80 > will send the end of > exclusive bytes F0 41 45 00 20 F7. > > This assumes channel 1 in the hex code."

> At 16:08 +0200 27.05.01, Kai-Steffen Schlink wrote: > >64 MB RAM > >6 GB HD > >Windows 2000 > > AFAIK the minimum RAM requirement for Windows 2000 is 128 MB. > Really? I checked with the Windows 2000 task manager. When SoundDiver indicates that it is out of memory, 30 MB of real RAM are free. Bye Kai-Steffen Schlink

Just found a problem: I create a new Performance with the following: Part 1 uses I2 #18 Lately Bass Part 2 uses P1 #82 Miles Part 3 uses I2 #9 Strobe Bass A When I try to store the performance in a Library, part 2's data is not stored. So, the Perf shows that it Uses Lately Bass & Strobe Bass A (no mention of poor old Miles). If I look in the EX5R device window, however, and select the new perf, the "uses" column on the left DOES show all the sounds. Also, if I recall the perf from the library, Miles is back! (so the data was stored but "invisible") On further investigation, it seems ALL the sounds in the P banks don't show in a library (if a perf is dragged to a library window), but they DO show in the "uses" column of the device area. Very confusing and frustrating............. Using SD 3.0.4 on Mac (G4 dual 500) EX5 module dated 22/05/2001 Regards - Colin

In sounddiver-users@y..., edemunari@p... wrote: Just Dload the new version of sound diver it seems that it should work with my Access Virus A. The problem seems autolink 'cause when i try to get banks or patches on my Logica Audio Platinum 4.7 i got: The first patches is the patches currently selected on Sound diver the patches from 2-17 are the multis the other are nothing No way to have the bank change. I'm working on a mac8500/180 2 AMT8 USb connected Help Please... Ciao, Eriberto

>Just found a problem: >I create a new Performance with the following: >Part 1 uses I2 #18 Lately Bass >Part 2 uses P1 #82 Miles >Part 3 uses I2 #9 Strobe Bass A > >When I try to store the performance in a Library, part 2's data is >not stored. So, the Perf shows that it Uses Lately Bass & Strobe Bass >A (no mention of poor old Miles). > >If I look in the EX5R device window, however, and select the new >perf, the "uses" column on the left DOES show all the sounds. > >Also, if I recall the perf from the library, Miles is back! (so the >data was stored but "invisible") > >On further investigation, it seems ALL the sounds in the P banks >don't show in a library (if a perf is dragged to a library window), >but they DO show in the "uses" column of the device area. > >Very confusing and frustrating............. Not exactly. If I recall correctly the P banks are ROM banks. No use putting them into libraries since they can't change at all. This behaviour is similar with all other modules with ROM banks. -- Malte Rogacki gacki@... ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Don't forget to TURN ON THE SYNTHESIZER. Often this is the reason why you get no sound out of it." (ARP 2600 Owner's Manual) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------

----- Original Message ----- From: "Malte Rogacki" <gacki@...> To: <sounddiver-users@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 9:15 AM Subject: Re: [SoundDiver] EX5R / SD bug > >Just found a problem: > >I create a new Performance with the following: > >Part 1 uses I2 #18 Lately Bass > >Part 2 uses P1 #82 Miles > >Part 3 uses I2 #9 Strobe Bass A > > > >When I try to store the performance in a Library, part 2's data is > >not stored. So, the Perf shows that it Uses Lately Bass & Strobe Bass > >A (no mention of poor old Miles). > > > >If I look in the EX5R device window, however, and select the new > >perf, the "uses" column on the left DOES show all the sounds. > > > >Also, if I recall the perf from the library, Miles is back! (so the > >data was stored but "invisible") > > > >On further investigation, it seems ALL the sounds in the P banks > >don't show in a library (if a perf is dragged to a library window), > >but they DO show in the "uses" column of the device area. > > > >Very confusing and frustrating............. > > Not exactly. If I recall correctly the P banks are ROM banks. No use > putting them into libraries since they can't change at all. > > This behaviour is similar with all other modules with ROM banks. Yes, that's true. So, not a bug at all... and not very confusing either IMHO... - Jens (author of EX-module)

Hi, I'm glad to announce that the makers of PSP audioware ( http://www.pspaudioware.com ) have offered us a nice deal on their plugin packages! What's on offer: PSP MixPack and PSP StereoPack. Both packages are available for Mac and PC. PSP MixPack consists of: PSP MixBass, PSP MixSaturator, PSP MixPressor and PSP MixTreble. As the name of the collection suggests, the plug-ins which make up part of this series are specifically for use during sound mixing. However, the quality of the algorithms employed also allows them to be used in mastering. A demo version, as well as audio examples, can be downloaded here: http://www.pspaudioware.com/download1.html PSP StereoPack is a collection of VST plug-ins for PC and MAC. The kit consists of: PSP PseudoStereo, PSP StereoEnhancer, PSP StereoController, PSP StereoAnalyser. These plug-ins are applied for creating, expanding, improving, controlling and analysing the image and quality of the stereo signal in single tracks or mixes thereof. A demo version, as well as audio examples, can be downloaded here: http://www.pspaudioware.com/download1.html PSP MixPack and PSP StereoPack packages got rave reviews in Recording Magazine, TDM Magazine, KEYS and received the title of 'Ultimate Buy' from Computer Music, the title of 'Our Choice' from the Estrada i Studio. On top of that, PSP has just released v1.5 of the MixPack which ads even more functionality! The deal: Both packages for the price of: $100 if >= 10 packages sold (about 20% discount) $88 if >= 20 packages sold (about 30% discount) $65 if >= 30 packages sold (almost 50% discount!!!) The normal price is: MixPack 100 USD + StereoPack 24 USD = 124 USD. So once again we can use the power of the group! The more packages we buy, the less we pay! The deal is available for 3 weeks, starting today. This means it's valid until 20 June. Payment and registration happens in the week after that. How to order? Just send an email to BOTH of these addresses: logicusers@... and joeri@... In case there are any further questions, feel free to contact me at joeri@... Bye, Joeri Note from myself: I've been using these plugins for a while already and I'm highly impressed by their quality and functionality! The StereoPack's correlation meter is the ultimate phase-metering plugin for me. I use the other plugins of the StereoPack for detailed manipulation of the stereofield. Sometimes I use it on individual tracks and sometimes I use it on the master. The StereoPack is the ideal solution for mixing and mastering things for vinyl imo! The MixSaturator is my favourite tool for "warming up" tracks and giving them that "vintage" sound. The MixPressor is a compressor with completely different characteristics than Logic's internal compressor. Very, very nice! Both packages are a powerful extension to Logic's internal plugins! This is of course my personal opinion. Feel free to download the demos and hear/try for yourself! -- Joeri Vankeirsbilck joeri@... Belway Productions - http://www.belway.com List-admin Logic-users/SoundD*ver-users/Logic-TDM

At 23:33 Uhr +0200 30.05.2001, Colin Shapiro wrote: >Part 1 uses I2 #18 Lately Bass >Part 2 uses P1 #82 Miles >Part 3 uses I2 #9 Strobe Bass A > >When I try to store the performance in a Library, part 2's data is >not stored. So, the Perf shows that it Uses Lately Bass & Strobe Bass >A (no mention of poor old Miles). Guess why? Child entries in ROM banks are not stored, because this is not required. >If I look in the EX5R device window, however, and select the new >perf, the "uses" column on the left DOES show all the sounds. Yes, the dependencies to ROM entries are shown, but not used when copying child entries. >Also, if I recall the perf from the library, Miles is back! (so the >data was stored but "invisible") No, it was not stored. Simply the link in the performance was saved and recalled unaltered. >On further investigation, it seems ALL the sounds in the P banks >don't show in a library (if a perf is dragged to a library window), >but they DO show in the "uses" column of the device area. > >Very confusing and frustrating............. Why frustrating? You did not lose data, and the library file size stays small :-) -- Beste Gruesse - best regards, Michael Haydn EMAGIC Soft- und Hardware GmbH SoundDiver Group Executive Logic Audio Developer Unitor8 Control Project Manager

At 7:14 Uhr +0000 31.05.2001, edemunari@... wrote: >The problem seems autolink 'cause when i try to get banks or >patches >on my Logica Audio Platinum 4.7 i got: > >The first patches is the patches currently selected on Sound diver >the patches from 2-17 are the multis >the other are nothing We are aware of this. The Virus module was developed by a new external (but still excellent) developer. He simply forgot to change the default implementation of AutoLink name providing of the example source code he used to build the Virus module to the required code. He is currently working on this. -- Beste Gruesse - best regards, Michael Haydn EMAGIC Soft- und Hardware GmbH SoundDiver Group Executive Logic Audio Developer Unitor8 Control Project Manager

Hi all, I installed SD 3.04 last night. I use SD always in combination with LAWP 4.7. So I first start LAWP and then SD. If I select the proteus 2000 track in LAWP and play a few notes on the keyboard, I can hear the proteus 2000. If I go to SD and double click on a patch, the patch window is opened but if I press some keys, I can't hear the proteus anymore. I can see that the proteus is receiving the midi note information because the green led is binking and the double clicked patch is chosen by the proteus, only there is no sound. If I go back to Logic and press some notes the proteus will sound. I tried different settings for channel and thru information but no results. What could be wrong? Thanks for any replies on this subject. Mark Hofland

At 09:54 +0000 31.05.01, mhofland@... wrote: >I installed SD 3.04 last night. I use SD always in combination with >LAWP 4.7. So I first start LAWP and then SD. If I select the proteus >2000 track in LAWP and play a few notes on the keyboard, I can hear >the proteus 2000. If I go to SD and double click on a patch, the >patch window is opened but if I press some keys, I can't hear the >proteus anymore. I can see that the proteus is receiving the midi >note information because the green led is binking and the double >clicked patch is chosen by the proteus, only there is no sound. If I >go back to Logic and press some notes the proteus will sound. >I tried different settings for channel and thru information but no >results. What could be wrong? Does it work with SoundDiver stand-alone? I have the suspicion that the wrong MIDI channel is used for MIDI Thru. -- Beste Gruesse - best regards, Michael Haydn EMAGIC Soft- und Hardware GmbH SoundDiver Group Executive Logic Audio Developer Unitor8 Control Project Manager

Thanks hope Emagic will tell us something whenever it happens on emagic site!! Ciao a tutti, Eriberto --- In sounddiver-users@y..., Michael Haydn <mhaydn@m...> wrote: > At 7:14 Uhr +0000 31.05.2001, edemunari@p... wrote: > >The problem seems autolink 'cause when i try to get banks or > >patches > >on my Logica Audio Platinum 4.7 i got: > > > >The first patches is the patches currently selected on Sound diver > >the patches from 2-17 are the multis > >the other are nothing > > We are aware of this. The Virus module was developed by a new > external (but still excellent) developer. He simply forgot to change > the default implementation of AutoLink name providing of the example > source code he used to build the Virus module to the required code. > He is currently working on this. > -- > > Beste Gruesse - best regards, > > Michael Haydn > EMAGIC Soft- und Hardware GmbH > SoundDiver Group Executive > Logic Audio Developer > Unitor8 Control Project Manager

When requesting items from my 02R I get the following error message: "Fehler #002. Bitte melden." It seems to recieve the data OK, though...but I can't request more than one scene memory at the time. Then I get the above message ("Fehler #002. Bitte melden.") followed by "SysEx Communication Error: Checksum Error..." Håkan Glänte

Hi, does anyone else have the same prob? When I'm in Autolink mode and editing a MS2000 patch, after a while both Logic and SD freeze and the sound hangs. Sometimes I can still save the patch, other times I can't. It only happens with the MS2000 in Autolink mode; my other synths work fine. Any advice is appreciated. Cheers, Recky Win98 Logic 4.7 SD 3.04 AMT 8 (via USB)

At 11:34 +0000 31.05.01, edemunari@... wrote: >Thanks hope Emagic will tell us something whenever it happens on >emagic site!! I usually write a note in this list. -- Beste Gruesse - best regards, Michael Haydn EMAGIC Soft- und Hardware GmbH SoundDiver Group Executive Logic Audio Developer Unitor8 Control Project Manager

I can't seem to run Sound diver using my Midisport Usb 4x4 under Win Me. I keep getting an error which says something like pci devise bus error 0078h. What does this mean? I no pro at computers, so I'm not sure whats going on. PIII 800, 320 ram, Delta 1010, SBlive, Midisport 4x4. I did try to reinstall SD 3xs with VER3.04 with no luck. Sonar seems to run fine. Please help. Orlando.

Hi, Joeri. I'm very interested in the MixPack, but not particularly interested in the StereoPack. If I could get the whole thing for $65, I'd do it, but how does this work? I wouldn't want to commit to buying the whole package, find out only 10 people are doing it, and have to pay essentially full price for what I really want. Is there a way to commit but to say I only want to do it if we get the $65 price? Since I'm not really all that interested in the StereoPack, I wouldn't want to do it otherwise. Best regards, Irwin Joeri Vankeirsbilck To: Logic Users <joeri@belway <logic-users@egroups.com>, Logic TDM .com> <logic-tdm@egroups.com>, Sounddiver Users <sounddiver-users@yahoogroups.com> 05/31/2001 cc: 04:14 AM Subject: [SoundDiver] [ADMIN] LUG deal on Please PSP plugins, starting TODAY! respond to sounddiver-us ers Hi, I'm glad to announce that the makers of PSP audioware ( http://www.pspaudioware.com ) have offered us a nice deal on their plugin packages! What's on offer: PSP MixPack and PSP StereoPack. Both packages are available for Mac and PC. PSP MixPack consists of: PSP MixBass, PSP MixSaturator, PSP MixPressor and PSP MixTreble. As the name of the collection suggests, the plug-ins which make up part of this series are specifically for use during sound mixing. However, the quality of the algorithms employed also allows them to be used in mastering. A demo version, as well as audio examples, can be downloaded here: http://www.pspaudioware.com/download1.html PSP StereoPack is a collection of VST plug-ins for PC and MAC. The kit consists of: PSP PseudoStereo, PSP StereoEnhancer, PSP StereoController, PSP StereoAnalyser. These plug-ins are applied for creating, expanding, improving, controlling and analysing the image and quality of the stereo signal in single tracks or mixes thereof. A demo version, as well as audio examples, can be downloaded here: http://www.pspaudioware.com/download1.html PSP MixPack and PSP StereoPack packages got rave reviews in Recording Magazine, TDM Magazine, KEYS and received the title of 'Ultimate Buy' from Computer Music, the title of 'Our Choice' from the Estrada i Studio. On top of that, PSP has just released v1.5 of the MixPack which ads even more functionality! The deal: Both packages for the price of: $100 if >= 10 packages sold (about 20% discount) $88 if >= 20 packages sold (about 30% discount) $65 if >= 30 packages sold (almost 50% discount!!!) The normal price is: MixPack 100 USD + StereoPack 24 USD = 124 USD. So once again we can use the power of the group! The more packages we buy, the less we pay! The deal is available for 3 weeks, starting today. This means it's valid until 20 June. Payment and registration happens in the week after that. How to order? Just send an email to BOTH of these addresses: logicusers@... and joeri@... In case there are any further questions, feel free to contact me at joeri@... Bye, Joeri Note from myself: I've been using these plugins for a while already and I'm highly impressed by their quality and functionality! The StereoPack's correlation meter is the ultimate phase-metering plugin for me. I use the other plugins of the StereoPack for detailed manipulation of the stereofield. Sometimes I use it on individual tracks and sometimes I use it on the master. The StereoPack is the ideal solution for mixing and mastering things for vinyl imo! The MixSaturator is my favourite tool for "warming up" tracks and giving them that "vintage" sound. The MixPressor is a compressor with completely different characteristics than Logic's internal compressor. Very, very nice! Both packages are a powerful extension to Logic's internal plugins! This is of course my personal opinion. Feel free to download the demos and hear/try for yourself! -- Joeri Vankeirsbilck joeri@... Belway Productions - http://www.belway.com List-admin Logic-users/SoundD*ver-users/Logic-TDM Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

Hi, I have been set-up all my synths and effects without much trouble and all seems to be okay (message sent = message recieved) I now am not sure of saving diff. settings. I want to be able to work away with cubase useing sounddiver in the background (which is working fine) but I don't quite get how to save things i.e I have a bunch of sounds and effects selected and have done some editing and now I want to close that work, get back to my original settings and work on another tune. How do I save that set-up so I can recall it when I recall the song. Do I have to make a "library" Not quite sure of it. Any help would be much appriciated. Thanks Matt

At 15:15 +0000 31.05.01, matthew@... wrote: >How do I save that set-up so I can recall it when I recall the song. >Do I have to make a "library" Not quite sure of it. Any help would be >much appriciated. Libraries are also used to save setup data. In the Setup window, choose "New > Build Library" and one of the sub-menu items, depending on what you want to save. It applies to all selected devices. If no devices are selected, you are asked if you want to go through all devices in the setup. -- Beste Gruesse - best regards, Michael Haydn EMAGIC Soft- und Hardware GmbH SoundDiver Group Executive Logic Audio Developer Unitor8 Control Project Manager

I just got a bunch of .SYX files for my JV-2080, each of which represents a single patch. Using 3.0.4 for Windows, I chose Open from the File menu and selected the first file. I get the little message about "suitable devices" and then choose to have it create a Library. No problem there, I've got a new Library window open with the one patch in it. According to page 266 of the manual, I should be able to choose that patch and then choose Insert File from the Library menu. In the dialog box that opens, I choose another of the .SYX files and hit the Open button. At this point, the patch(es) in the file I chose SHOULD appear in the Library I just created, but nothing happens. The window closes, I end up back in the Library window and there's no new patch listed. At first I thought it was because I was choosing an SYX file and not a native LIB file, but the manual indicates that "foreign" files will be automatically converted (while it's referencing Polyframe files, I'm assuming SYX would be included as well). Any tips? Thanks, -- jeff

From Michael Haydn: > >If I look in the EX5R device window, however, and select the new >>perf, the "uses" column on the left DOES show all the sounds. > >Yes, the dependencies to ROM entries are shown, but not used when >copying child entries. Okay, that makes sense. > Simply the link in the performance was saved >and recalled unaltered. That makes sense too.... > >Very confusing and frustrating............. > >Why frustrating? You did not lose data, and the library file size >stays small :-) Frustrating because I didn't understand it. In knowledge, there is power and contentment. I must say, I don't care too much about library size. (Storage is cheap). I'd rather be able to see all the used patches in a library, rather than have to open a perf in the edit window to see what's really going on. Perhaps in a future version, there could be an option to enable/disable "Save Child patches in Library". From Malte Rogacki: > >Very confusing and frustrating............. > >Not exactly. If I recall correctly the P banks are ROM banks. No use >putting them into libraries since they can't change at all. > >This behaviour is similar with all other modules with ROM banks. Ummmm, no. If I drag a JV2080 perf into a lib window, all the patches come along too, whether they are in the User bank or the Preset banks. I suppose I'm used to this behaviour. As I said above, there is a reason for putting them in libraries. Also, perhaps one day, there will be a software version of a JV2080 or EX5R, then it would be very important to have all related data in one place. Thanks for the replies - what do you think of my suggestions? Regards - Colin

I have upgraded to WinME and have been trying to get SD 3.04 running with no luck. I am using a USB midisport 4x4. It is working fine with Sonar but when I attempt to use SD, my pc freezes up and I must do a complete reboot. I have the latest drivers installed for the midi interface and WDM drivers for my Delta 1010. setup: PIII 800 320ram, Delta 1010, Sblive, Midisport 4x4, Nvidia 32meg video card. I have tried reinstalling SD 3xs already with no luck. I get an error which says something like, pci error bus on device 0078h, or something like that. Please help. Orlando.