Hello I have one Unitor-8 and one AMT-8 connected to my Mac like this: The Unitor is connected to the Mac Modem port, and the AMT-8 is connected to the Unitor-8 via the 9-pin RS-422 port. I need to buy a third interface (another AMT-8). How do I connect this to the other two? (The Mac printer serial port is connected to a MOTU MIDI express to interface with a HUI) Please advice... ___________________ Mikael C. Sandgren Composer Soundelux DMG 7080 Hollywood Blvd Hollywood, CA 90028 Tel (+1) 323-603-5118

At 13:06 -0800 29.03.01, Matthew Samet wrote: >I'd like to possibly get into SoundDiver module programming. Is >there a manual or an SDK which I can download to start making >modules (as opposed to Adaptations)? We send the module development SDK only to developers who create a module we need, and only if they sign a non-disclosure agreement. This limitation is required because we have limited resources (i.e. just me) to provide developer support. For which devices do you want to develop? -- Beste Gruesse - best regards, Michael Haydn EMAGIC Soft- und Hardware GmbH SoundDiver Group Executive Logic Audio Developer Unitor8 Control Project Manager

At 10:37 -0800 29.03.01, Matthew Samet wrote: >Do you know if the rest of the Triton-RACK "specific" features like >EXB-banks etc will be in SD 3.0.3? Probably not. It seems to be a lot of work. >Also, do you know if the bug relating to the fact that the module only scans >correctly if the rack is on a specific port? (I don't remember the port >offhand, maybe 3 or 1? Mine is on Unitor USB out 01, in 04, doesn't scan, >must add manually then it works) Does it scan if you connect it to in/out 1 and set it to MIDI channel / Device ID 1? > >Also I had another question relating to the format of the data it sends to >the Triton-RACK. It seems as if when you're editing a patch, it must send >the *entire* patch dump every time. >i.e. to edit one parameter it must send everything. >I also have a JV1080 which SD can modify one parameter at a time, which is >faster. >do you know if this is a feature or a bug? :) Neither nor. Some devices don't support parameter change messages, at least not for all data types. In this case SoundDiver has to use the workaround to send the entire patch dump. >p.s. i also noticed a bug in which the bank format in "global" on the triton >must be set to GM(2) not korg? otherwise, it doesn't work. ??? What does not work? -- Beste Gruesse - best regards, Michael Haydn EMAGIC Soft- und Hardware GmbH SoundDiver Group Executive Logic Audio Developer Unitor8 Control Project Manager

At 22:44 +0100 29.03.01, Mark Kelly wrote: >the data size defined in data type "performance" is too small for the >address mapping table This message means that there is an inconsistency between the address mapping table and the overall data size. Don't touch the data size - every time you change something in the address mapping table, it is recalculated. -- Beste Gruesse - best regards, Michael Haydn EMAGIC Soft- und Hardware GmbH SoundDiver Group Executive Logic Audio Developer Unitor8 Control Project Manager

At 01:07 +0200 30.03.01, music13 wrote: >are there plans to support the Nord Lead and Rack 3? Yes, but currently Malte is busy with the XV module... -- Beste Gruesse - best regards, Michael Haydn EMAGIC Soft- und Hardware GmbH SoundDiver Group Executive Logic Audio Developer Unitor8 Control Project Manager

At 08:05 +0100 30.03.01, Gareth Jones wrote: >(MT4, 8.6 with USB updates) Don't use USB on Mac OS 8.6. This is unreliable. Upgrade to 9.0.4 or 9.1. -- Beste Gruesse - best regards, Michael Haydn EMAGIC Soft- und Hardware GmbH SoundDiver Group Executive Logic Audio Developer Unitor8 Control Project Manager

At 11:54 -0600 30.03.01, M. Steven Ginn wrote: >Does anyone know if SoundDiver will work on the newer versions of >Windows? I have been running SoundDiver under Mac but have thought >about moving over to a laptop which is currently a Dell running Win98. >However, I seem to have come across bits of information that indicate >that Win98 is not very stable for USB midi support and that WinME is. >So is WinME backward compatible with Win98 meaning that I shouldn't have >problems running my current apps, yet with improved midi support? No problem. I work with Windows Me all the time. -- Beste Gruesse - best regards, Michael Haydn EMAGIC Soft- und Hardware GmbH SoundDiver Group Executive Logic Audio Developer Unitor8 Control Project Manager

At 10:22 -0800 30.03.01, Mikael Sandgren wrote: >I need to buy a third interface (another AMT-8). How do I connect this to >the other two? Connect it to the AMT-8 via the RS-232 ports. Up to eight units can be daisy-chained this way. -- Beste Gruesse - best regards, Michael Haydn EMAGIC Soft- und Hardware GmbH SoundDiver Group Executive Logic Audio Developer Unitor8 Control Project Manager

jflwp@... wrote: > > I've ordered the new Roland V-Session V-drums with the TD-10 with the > TDW-1 with V-Cymbal support. I've heard good things about the Sound > Diver software and know that 3.0 supports the TDW-1 expansion....but, > is there a difference with the new TDW-1 Expansion with the new V- > Cymbal support? Just curious because I am interested in getting Sound > Diver and want to know if it will work with the TD-10 with the newly > updated V-Cymbal version of the TDW-1. This new chip was released > after Sound Diver 3.0. Hello jflwp (do you have a 'normal' name, maybe?), I contacted Roland Germany this week. Neither the update for the TDW-1 is available yet nor the V-Cymbals themself. I have an older version of the TDW-1 built in my TD-10, without the V-Cymbals support. I'll have to send it to Roland to update. They'll replace or add a chip on it (yes, we have anno domini 2001 and a software update and/or FlashROM hasn't been found yet). When Roland will be able to do it or what does the update change in the operating system - well, I can't tell you now. I suppose (and hope) it only adds the V-Cymbals to the list of supported pads/triggers in the Trigger Bank. Anyway, as soon as I've got it I'll add the support of the new TDW-1 to the TD-10 SoundDiver module. Robert Vetter

The RS-232 ports on both the Unitor and my current AMT-8 are not available - they're connected to each other. One would have to have to have two RS-232 ports on each device to connect them serially, as you seem to suggest. Or is there some special "Y-type" cable? Please advice... ___________________ Mikael C. Sandgren Composer Soundelux DMG 7080 Hollywood Blvd Hollywood, CA 90028 Tel (+1) 323-603-5118 -----Original Message----- From: Michael Haydn [mailto:mhaydn@...] Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 10:50 AM To: sounddiver-users@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [SoundDiver] 3rd MIDI interface At 10:22 -0800 30.03.01, Mikael Sandgren wrote: >I need to buy a third interface (another AMT-8). How do I connect this to >the other two? Connect it to the AMT-8 via the RS-232 ports. Up to eight units can be daisy-chained this way. -- Beste Gruesse - best regards, Michael Haydn EMAGIC Soft- und Hardware GmbH SoundDiver Group Executive Logic Audio Developer Unitor8 Control Project Manager Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

You have to alternate the 232 and 422 between each successive device. PC -> 232 -> U8#1 -> 422 -> U8#2 -> 232 -> U8#3 and so on KRIS -----Original Message----- From: Mikael Sandgren To: 'sounddiver-users@yahoogroups.com' Sent: 3/30/01 5:53 PM Subject: RE: [SoundDiver] 3rd MIDI interface The RS-232 ports on both the Unitor and my current AMT-8 are not available - they're connected to each other. One would have to have to have two RS-232 ports on each device to connect them serially, as you seem to suggest. Or is there some special "Y-type" cable? Please advice... ___________________ Mikael C. Sandgren Composer Soundelux DMG 7080 Hollywood Blvd Hollywood, CA 90028 Tel (+1) 323-603-5118 -----Original Message----- From: Michael Haydn [mailto:mhaydn@...] Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 10:50 AM To: sounddiver-users@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [SoundDiver] 3rd MIDI interface At 10:22 -0800 30.03.01, Mikael Sandgren wrote: >I need to buy a third interface (another AMT-8). How do I connect this to >the other two? Connect it to the AMT-8 via the RS-232 ports. Up to eight units can be daisy-chained this way. -- Beste Gruesse - best regards, Michael Haydn EMAGIC Soft- und Hardware GmbH SoundDiver Group Executive Logic Audio Developer Unitor8 Control Project Manager Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ********************************************************************** This email and any files attached are confidential and intended solely for the addressee. This email message has also been swept for computer viruses by MIMEsweeper (www.mimesweeper.com) **********************************************************************

In the system menu of the S80 module, most of cc numbers for programmable controllers (e.g., KN1) are blank. Is it a bug? The Yamaha literature on the S80 seems to indicate that any cc # can be assigned to a controller of the S80. Maybe I'm mistaken?

I've been using Sound Diver 3.02 with no problem on a ThinkPad that used to run Win98 and is now running Win ME. If possible, don't use USB for MIDI. There are tons of messages about problems with MIDI thru USB in many NGs. Since your Dell has a serial port, you better use the serial connection unless you have a reason not to use it. Since I bought an AMT8 and used the serial connection, I have had zero MIDI problems. --- In sounddiver-users@y..., "M. Steven Ginn" <sginn@a...> wrote: > Does anyone know if SoundDiver will work on the newer versions of > Windows? I have been running SoundDiver under Mac but have thought > about moving over to a laptop which is currently a Dell running Win98. > However, I seem to have come across bits of information that indicate > that Win98 is not very stable for USB midi support and that WinME is. > So is WinME backward compatible with Win98 meaning that I shouldn't have > problems running my current apps, yet with improved midi support? > > Thanks, > > Steve

--- In sounddiver-users@y..., Robinsound@a... wrote: > Hi there- > Did I recently see a post about SoundDiver 3.02 not working well with the > VG-8? I ordered > the update two weeks ago to specifically use on that machine. > v2.13 works fairly well - has anything changed? > Thanks, > Paul > Yes Paul that was me that posted this tidbit. I was dissapointed because the VG module cannot send/receive individual patches. They claim this isn't possible and yet I've been using an old Galaxy Libararian module that does this quite well. It can receive any patch and sends them to User 64 (B84) as the temporary edit area. I've been in contact with one of the programmers but he hasn't been able to tell whether this will be fixed. He also claims it isn't possible. What this means is one must drag everything over by doing a bulk dump from the VG8. I'm not likely going to use the editing portion as it's just as easy to edit on the VG8 but the librarian aspect would be so much easier if it worked as I had expected it to. In the meantime I'm still using the old Galaxy module. (mac version BTW) Kevan

> > I've ordered the new Roland V-Session V-drums with the TD-10 with the > > TDW-1 with V-Cymbal support. tsk tsk... should've tried the dDrum!

I am using Sounddiver 3.02 with LAP on a Windows Me machine. I was using the same setup with windows 98 and it worked fine. I have a USB Midiman 4x4. And haven't had any problems. I haven't run into any backwards compatibility issues with any of my other software either. Tag -----Original Message----- From: M. Steven Ginn [mailto:sginn@...] Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 9:54 AM To: sounddiver-users@yahoogroups.com Subject: [SoundDiver] SoundDiver on Windows platform Does anyone know if SoundDiver will work on the newer versions of Windows? I have been running SoundDiver under Mac but have thought about moving over to a laptop which is currently a Dell running Win98. However, I seem to have come across bits of information that indicate that Win98 is not very stable for USB midi support and that WinME is. So is WinME backward compatible with Win98 meaning that I shouldn't have problems running my current apps, yet with improved midi support? Thanks, Steve Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

I am using Sound Diver 3.02 on Windows ME with a variety of synths. The only problem I'm having is that I have a MOTU Midi Express XT USB and Sound Diver can't receive my Kurzweil synth dumps. It looks like it may be the MOTU that's the problem and while I've received a lot of help from eMagic, I haven't received any worthwhile help from MOTU (it looks like they are not really interested in Windows at all), so I'd recommend using Midiman or better yet eMagic's midi hardware if you need multiple midi ports. > -----Original Message----- > From: Tom Gray [mailto:Tom.Gray@...] > Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 12:40 PM > To: 'sounddiver-users@yahoogroups.com' > Subject: RE: [SoundDiver] SoundDiver on Windows platform > > > I am using Sounddiver 3.02 with LAP on a Windows Me machine. I > was using the > same setup with windows 98 and it worked fine. I have a USB > Midiman 4x4. And > haven't had any problems. I haven't run into any backwards compatibility > issues with any of my other software either. > > Tag > > -----Original Message----- > From: M. Steven Ginn [mailto:sginn@...] > Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 9:54 AM > To: sounddiver-users@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [SoundDiver] SoundDiver on Windows platform > > > Does anyone know if SoundDiver will work on the newer versions of > Windows? I have been running SoundDiver under Mac but have thought > about moving over to a laptop which is currently a Dell running Win98. > However, I seem to have come across bits of information that indicate > that Win98 is not very stable for USB midi support and that WinME is. > So is WinME backward compatible with Win98 meaning that I shouldn't have > problems running my current apps, yet with improved midi support? > > Thanks, > > Steve > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > >

I'm running SD 3.02 for Windows. Every time I exit SD, it saves a copy of my Preferences file. Why? How can I turn this behaviour off? I would like to be in control of saving my preferences, not SD. If SD does this without my consent, then I could easily overwrite something that I have spent a lot of time setting up. Regards, Richard

Matt, So, if you change, say, an LFO frequency parameter, it has to then send an entire patch sysex dump to the Triton Rack ? How long does that take? Also, the thing you mentioned about a save muting the outputs for 3 seconds, are you just talking about when you save the edit buffer to a patch location, or are you still talking about just changing one parameter? Thanks, Richard At 03:37 AM 30/03/01 -0500, Matt Picone wrote: >The Triton Rack works the same way, unfortunately. Every save mutes the >outputs for a good three seconds too. > >-M@ > >-----Original Message----- >From: Richard Whitehouse [mailto:rsw@...] >Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 11:17 PM >To: sounddiver-users@yahoogroups.com >Subject: RE: [SoundDiver] Triton-rack issues > > >Matt, > >do you also know the answer to the other question about saving a whole >patch dump every time a parameter is changed? That's the way it works on >my TR-Rack also, but I was hoping that they had done it differently on the >Triton rack (I'm thinking of getting a Triton rack) > > >>Also I had another question relating to the format of the data it sends to >>the Triton-RACK. It seems as if when you're editing a patch, it must send >>the *entire* patch dump every time. >>i.e. to edit one parameter it must send everything. >>I also have a JV1080 which SD can modify one parameter at a time, which is >>faster. >>do you know if this is a feature or a bug? :) >>and if it will be fixed in 3.0.3...?

>I'm running SD 3.02 for Windows. > >Every time I exit SD, it saves a copy of my Preferences file. Why? Because it saves the current state of your complete setup including all changes you have made during the session. > How >can I turn this behaviour off? I would like to be in control of saving my >preferences, not SD. If SD does this without my consent, then I could >easily overwrite something that I have spent a lot of time setting up. There is a key command for quitting SoundDiver without saving the Prefs. -- Malte Rogacki gacki@... ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Don't forget to TURN ON THE SYNTHESIZER. Often this is the reason why you get no sound out of it." (ARP 2600 Owner's Manual) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Hi, Malte Thank you for the reply. >Because it saves the current state of your complete setup including all >changes you have made during the session. I understand what it does. But my question is, why does it do this automatically? In my opinion, this should be under my control, not SD's. >There is a key command for quitting SoundDiver without saving the Prefs. I just found the "quit without saving" command myself in the manual, and I will use it. I have a couple of comments. First, this should be on the File menu, so that I don't have to remember what the key command is. Second is the way the Prefences / Safety Messages / Saving Preferences is implemented. I can select this preference so that I get a confirmation message every time SD is going to save a Preferences file. However, this setting is saved IN THE PREFERENCES file! This is not the best place to save a setting like this! This is more of a global setting, and should be saved in an .INI file, or the Registry, or somewhere like that. By saving this setting in the Preferences file, it means every single Prefences file has to have this setting in it! I hope this is not an indication of the way things work in general in SD. Maybe the designers of SD have a fundamentally different view of software than me. I like software that puts me "in the drivers seat" and makes it easy for me to control things. Richard >> How >>can I turn this behaviour off? I would like to be in control of saving my >>preferences, not SD. If SD does this without my consent, then I could >>easily overwrite something that I have spent a lot of time setting up. > >Malte Rogacki gacki@...

Hi I've now got SD v3.0 running thanks to message number 7000. But I notice in the editor the knobs are unpredictable and quite slow but the drag points on the envelopes are very slow. Any reason for this?? Still can't get decent access to www.emagic.de even with the PC at work - I've switched off just about everything... however I can get to the download page. Thanks to all Dave

Richard Whitehouse wrote: > > Hi, Malte > > Thank you for the reply. > > >Because it saves the current state of your complete setup including all > >changes you have made during the session. > > I understand what it does. But my question is, why does it do this > automatically? In my opinion, this should be under my control, not SD's. It is - there's a Preference somewhere (on the Mac version anyway...)

Hi Richard; >>Because it saves the current state of your complete setup including all >>changes you have made during the session. > >I understand what it does. But my question is, why does it do this >automatically? In my opinion, this should be under my control, not SD's. First, that's not much different to most other software products. Most of them save their Preferences when the are terminated. Second, there are IMO good reasons for this: Those Preferences reflect the current state of your setup. Which means you start at the same point where you left off. I personally find this very helpful - it completely suites my style and my workflow. >>There is a key command for quitting SoundDiver without saving the Prefs. > >I just found the "quit without saving" command myself in the manual, and I >will use it. I have a couple of comments. First, this should be on the >File menu, so that I don't have to remember what the key command is. > >Second is the way the Prefences / Safety Messages / Saving Preferences is >implemented. I can select this preference so that I get a confirmation >message every time SD is going to save a Preferences file. However, this >setting is saved IN THE PREFERENCES file! This is not the best place to >save a setting like this! This is more of a global setting, and should be >saved in an .INI file, or the Registry, or somewhere like that. By saving >this setting in the Preferences file, it means every single Prefences file >has to have this setting in it! That's right, because you can actually have several different preferences files which might need different "flags" altogether. Think of the Preferences as a way to completely re-configure SoundDiver - from the ground up! For this reason I don't think it's useful to put this setting somewhere else. >I hope this is not an indication of the way things work in general in SD. > Maybe the designers of SD have a fundamentally different view of software >than me. I like software that puts me "in the drivers seat" and makes it >easy for me to control things. Well, maybe you could explain *why* it is important for you to *not* save the Preferences when quitting SD because right now I dn't see any benefit in this. -- Malte Rogacki gacki@... ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Don't forget to TURN ON THE SYNTHESIZER. Often this is the reason why you get no sound out of it." (ARP 2600 Owner's Manual) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Hi MaLte, guten abend. I am not sure either why Richard is against the usual style of saving preferences. However, one thing about this approach that makes me nervous is the fact that preference files are easily corrupted (at least on the Mac) and this particular preference file has the potential to be huge, complex and frequently changed (and therefore frequently corrupted). Bob Malte Rogacki wrote: > Well, maybe you could explain *why* it is important for you to *not* save > the Preferences when quitting SD because right now I dn't see any benefit > in this. > > -- > Malte Rogacki gacki@... -- On the East Coast, Gore's concession speech preempted "The West Wing." Bush's victory speech preempted "Law and Order."