Hi, I'm new to this list having just purchased Sound Diver for the PC. I think it is a remarkable piece of software, but I was disappointed to find that their were actually no editors for the Lexicon PCM 80 and 90. This was the primary reason I bought SD as I was tired of dropping to my knees and dealing with the cumbersome Lexicon editing structure to edit my presets. Michael Haydn, if you are reading this, is it realistic to expect editing for the PCM 80 and 90 in the reasonably near future? Thanks for your time, I appreciate it. Regards, -Naren Hingorani, Novato, CA (naren99@...)

As you might know, there is PCM90 editor for PC on Lexcion website. (No PCM80's) -----Original Message----- From: Naren99@... [mailto:Naren99@...] Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2000 3:18 PM To: sounddiver-users@egroups.com Subject: [SoundDiver] PCM 80 & 90 editing Hi, I'm new to this list having just purchased Sound Diver for the PC. I think it is a remarkable piece of software, but I was disappointed to find that their were actually no editors for the Lexicon PCM 80 and 90. This was the primary reason I bought SD as I was tired of dropping to my knees and dealing with the cumbersome Lexicon editing structure to edit my presets. Michael Haydn, if you are reading this, is it realistic to expect editing for the PCM 80 and 90 in the reasonably near future? Thanks for your time, I appreciate it. Regards, -Naren Hingorani, Novato, CA (naren99@...)

Dear Michael, Thanks for the very speedy answer. Regarding my posting and your reply, please let me add the following information: --- In sounddiver-users@egroups.com, Michael Haydn <mhaydn@m...> wrote: > At 14:01 +0000 30.08.00, magnusnorden@s... wrote: > >I use the bundled OEM Sdiver to control my JV-1010. What I want to > >do is run the Sdiver at the same time as my sequencer (XG-Works), > >so that I can apply changes to the JV-1010 synth in real-time. Can > >this be done, and if so, how? When I try it either Sdiver doesn't > >find the JV-1010, or my sequencer cannot open the MIDI in and out > >ports. More specifically, what I want to do is run the sequencer, SoundDiver, the synth on my soundcard (Yamaha SW1000) and the JV- 1010, all at the same time. > The MIDI driver of your MIDI or sound card (or is it the to-host > connector of the JV?) does support multiple clients. Try to get an > update of the driver, or use "Hubi's MIDI Loopback device" which can turn any MIDI driver multi-client capable. I use the MIDI driver/connector of my soundcard and already have the latest drivers on my system. According to the Yamaha website these drivers provide "multiclient access, [meaning]that XGEDIT and VST/Cakewalk/Logic can run at the same time without the need for Hubis loopback. However [in order] to record sysex or controller data into the event list of these sequencers, you will still need to configure a Hubi pipe as with previous drivers." Does this mean that I still have to use Hubis? If so, how do I set/configure Hubis to work on my system (i.e. what midi ports are to be connected to what LBs)? > Beste Gruesse - best regards, > > Michael Haydn I would be very grateful for further help. All the best, Magnus Nordén

Hi Michael, below is a reply to a message I gave to the LUG but I would be interested in your thoughts on my idea about "E-midi".... thanks -- Lachlan Deck ldeck@... www.applemidi.com >Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 11:18:29 -0400 > From: "Willy" <willydon@...> >Subject: Re: FW: sound diver woes...OT maybe (whatever) >I have two sequencers runing on my 'G'. Logic & D-performer. I am surprise >how easily and effortless I was able to get 'free midi' acknowledging all my >midi pieces. Maybe its because its fully integrated with DP and other motu >relevant gears? Should sound diver be also built directly into logic; >perhaps in Logic 4.5x? Freemidi is more like OMS than Sounddiver. Sounddiver is a full editor/librarian and *not* midi driver software (naturally it supports emagic/mtp hardware). Don't mistake Sounddivers 'Setup' window with that of Freemidi and OMS. They serve different fuctions. Sounddiver won't be integrated into Logic because that would be like adding an additional environment to Logic - too big. What I do think would be a smart idea would be for a scaled down version of sounddiver - let's call it "E-midi" - that would replace OMS by providing users a new interface between Logic and their external gear. This has the following advantages - 1) Logic can update names of patches via Autolink with "E-midi" (which will query devices. 2) Beginning users aren't so daunted by the environment on initial setup. ie bank change messages are stored in E-midi's libraries. And Logic can querie "E-midi" on load and then setup an automatic environment to suit - therefore making it more user friendly. 3) OMS will be history - and the midi timing, as it will now depend on "E-midi" using the famous Logic Midi engine, will be that much better. 4) For those who have Sounddiver it can also naturally use "E-midi" and therefore bypass the setup on initial load - but could via autolink add new devices at will. Etc Etc. I can't think of a bad reason but naturally these features could be included into Logic only I feel that having it a separate Driver program would enable quicker adaptation with various Emagic software. Regards I haven't had the problems that you have had in Sounddiver - It's a great tool! -- Lachlan Deck ldeck@... www.applemidi.com

----- Original Message ----- From: "Edmund Eagan" <ed@...> To: <sounddiver-users@egroups.com> Sent: 31 August 2000 02:04 Subject: Re: [SoundDiver] New features on SD 3.0 ? > Peter Fischer wrote: > > > > Hi Barry and welcome, > > As many will tell you, they absolutely work together. Make sure and enable > > Autolink. SoundDiver needs to be started first, then LAP. > > I believe Logic should be started first, THEN SoundDiver. > > -- The mis-information superhighway strikes again :-) Regards Stephen Bennett. Composer and sound design. (UK) 01603 504461 http://chaosstudios.gen-next.com Author of 'The Fast Guide To Logic' http://www.pc-pubs.demon.co.uk/fgel.htm and 'Making Music with E-Magic Logic Audio http://www.pc-pubs.demon.co.uk/mmela.htm'

--- In sounddiver-users@egroups.com, Naren99@a... wrote: > Hi, I'm new to this list having just purchased Sound Diver for the PC. > > I think it is a remarkable piece of software, but I was disappointed to find > that their were actually no editors for the Lexicon PCM 80 and 90. This was > the primary reason I bought SD as I was tired of dropping to my knees and > dealing with the cumbersome Lexicon editing structure to edit my presets. Hi, I worked on the editor (adaptation) for the PCM 80 for 4 weeks in 1998 and then decided to stop since I didn't have more time. The editor was not released yet since nobody repied me if everything worked flawlessy on the PCMs. But I use it since 2 years without any problems. Only the most important algorithms are featured, but all parameters work - also patching can be done. You can download it at: http://www.brainstorm-music.de/other/ Please report problems directly to me home@... Thanks here to Malte Rogacki who helped me doing this! Ray

--- In sounddiver-users@egroups.com, "Sjaak" <sjaak@s...> wrote: > Are there plans for a (Micro) Modular bank manager? AFAIK this is not possible since the Nord Mod uses an own protocol that is not Midi compatible. But the existing Nord Editor is simple to use and works well. Ray

In a message dated 8/30/00 11:30:43 PM Pacific Daylight Time, takeimai@... writes: << As you might know, there is PCM90 editor for PC on Lexcion website. (No PCM80's) >> No, I didn't actually know that. Thanks for pointing that out! On my way to the Lexicon website . . . -Naren Hingorani, Novato, CA

In a message dated 8/31/00 6:37:48 AM Pacific Daylight Time, brainray@... writes: << Hi, I worked on the editor (adaptation) for the PCM 80 for 4 weeks in 1998 and then decided to stop since I didn't have more time. The editor was not released yet since nobody repied me if everything worked flawlessy on the PCMs. But I use it since 2 years without any problems. Only the most important algorithms are featured, but all parameters work - also patching can be done. You can download it at: http://www.brainstorm-music.de/other/ Please report problems directly to me home@... Thanks here to Malte Rogacki who helped me doing this! Ray >> I'll definitely download it. Is it possible for me to add to the work you've already done on this just from the download? I have a fascination with the PCM 80 resonators and would like to add this capability if you haven't already. I haven't delved into the universal module yet.... Thanks a lot, Ray, for your very kind offer to download. Regards, -Naren Hingorani, Novato, CA

Hi folks, I'm stumped about this one. While sometimes in SoundDiver and especially when I quit the program a MIDI message is sent to the 01v that pulls fader one down all the way. I 've looked through the manual and frankly don't know what to look for. I'm using the AMT8, a K2500XS, and a Mac G3 (beige). Any ideas about what I set that might then cause this? Thanks Peter Fischer

At 23:23 -0400 30.08.00, Marzzz@... wrote: >Would I be able to use a Yamaha 01V mixer as a "fader box?" Eagerly awaiting >the upgrade regardless! Yes if the 01v has a "local off" feature for the faders. However you will not have any motor fader feedback - as this works only with dedicated fader box modules. -- Beste Gruesse - best regards, Michael Haydn EMAGIC Soft- und Hardware GmbH SoundDiver Group Executive Logic Windows Developer Unitor8 Control Project Manager

I'm looking for some advice and recommendations for multi users and SoundDiver. I have ten people working from the same workstation (Mac, K2500XS, AMT8, 01v) and have set up folders for each with separate libraries. We have had some problems with the app crashing (of course whenever I'm not around) and several times SoundDiver starts up with the opening screen and I have to rescan everything. I've figured out (I think) that if I save the preference file and open up from that on the desktop I won't lose my scanned preferences. Is this true? Can you have a separate set of preferences for each of the ten folders? Do you then need to save preferences to that folder just before quitting? Is this the best way to handle this whole situation? Any advice or suggestions is most appreciated. BTW, the warnings about saving device entries as preferences is confusing; any enlightened words of wisdom for what that means for multi users would also be welcome. Thanks to all Peter Fischer

> and a Mac G3 (beige). Ah, the colour, it must be the colour .... ;-) Zaphod.

At 10:22 +1000 31.08.00, Lachlan Deck wrote: >Forgive my ignorance, > could someone just let me know what DSL is. SDL is for Studio Description Language. We have announced SDL at NAMM and Musikmesse 2000. It will be part of later versions of Logic and SoundDiver, and it will provide a much nicer name providing mechanism than AutoLink is today. You will not have to take care to have matching MIDI channels, or that SoundDiver knows the MIDI channels a device is using. And you will not have to configure Logic to use the correct bank select format. You will simply see all banks in the device by name and the choose patches - that's it. Note that we have no planned release date for SDL yet. -- Beste Gruesse - best regards, Michael Haydn EMAGIC Soft- und Hardware GmbH SoundDiver Group Executive Logic Windows Developer Unitor8 Control Project Manager

At 2:49 +0200 31.08.00, Sjaak wrote: >Are there plans for a (Micro) Modular bank manager? The Nord Modular does not yet support SysEx, and it seems Clavia is not planning to do so. -- Beste Gruesse - best regards, Michael Haydn EMAGIC Soft- und Hardware GmbH SoundDiver Group Executive Logic Windows Developer Unitor8 Control Project Manager

At 2:17 -0400 31.08.00, Naren99@... wrote: >Michael Haydn, if you are reading this, is it realistic to expect editing for >the PCM 80 and 90 in the reasonably near future? We do have long-term plans to extend support for FX devices, but this will happen when we do a redesign of the Universal Module which is currently lacking some features especially required for FX editors. -- Beste Gruesse - best regards, Michael Haydn EMAGIC Soft- und Hardware GmbH SoundDiver Group Executive Logic Windows Developer Unitor8 Control Project Manager

At 8:08 +0000 31.08.00, magnusnorden@... wrote: >I use the MIDI driver/connector of my soundcard and already have the >latest drivers on my system. According to the Yamaha website these >drivers provide "multiclient access, [meaning]that XGEDIT and >VST/Cakewalk/Logic can run at the same time without the need for >Hubis loopback. However [in order] to record sysex or controller data >into the event list of these sequencers, you will still need to >configure a Hubi pipe as with previous drivers." It seems the "multiclient access" is not 100%, but only for channel messages. >Does this mean that I still have to use Hubis? Yes. SoundDiver can't work without SysEx. >If so, how do I >set/configure Hubis to work on my system (i.e. what midi ports are to >be connected to what LBs)? The readme contains instructions. You will have to disable ports in SoundDiver. This is done in the file C:WindowsWIN.INI. You will find a section "[SoundDiver JV/XP]" there with lines "MidiIn_...=1" and "MidiOut_...=1". Change all the lines, except all "MidiIn_LB...=1" and "MidiOut_LB...=1" to "...=0". SoundDiver now opens only the LB ports. -- Beste Gruesse - best regards, Michael Haydn EMAGIC Soft- und Hardware GmbH SoundDiver Group Executive Logic Windows Developer Unitor8 Control Project Manager

At 20:58 +1000 31.08.00, Lachlan Deck wrote: > below is a reply to a message I gave to the LUG but I would be >interested in your thoughts on my idea about "E-midi".... Actually we already had this idea some years ago (it was called "MicroSurfer"), but put it on ice. When SDL is available, we might reactivate it... -- Beste Gruesse - best regards, Michael Haydn EMAGIC Soft- und Hardware GmbH SoundDiver Group Executive Logic Windows Developer Unitor8 Control Project Manager

At 9:31 -0600 31.08.00, Peter Fischer wrote: >I'm stumped about this one. While sometimes in SoundDiver and >especially when I quit the program a MIDI message is sent to the 01v >that pulls fader one down all the way. I 've looked through the manual >and frankly don't know what to look for. I'm using the AMT8, a K2500XS, >and a Mac G3 (beige). Any ideas about what I set that might then cause >this? What messages does the 01v use for the sliders? -- Beste Gruesse - best regards, Michael Haydn EMAGIC Soft- und Hardware GmbH SoundDiver Group Executive Logic Windows Developer Unitor8 Control Project Manager

At 10:01 -0600 31.08.00, Peter Fischer wrote: >I've figured out (I >think) that if I save the preference file and open up from that on the >desktop I won't lose my scanned preferences. Is this true? Yes. > Can you >have a separate set of preferences for each of the ten folders? Yes. >Do you >then need to save preferences to that folder just before quitting? No, the prefs are save to where they have been loaded from. > Is >this the best way to handle this whole situation? Yes, except that loading different prefs does not mean that the device contents are transmitted. This however can be easily done with "Select All", then "Transmit" in the Setup window. >BTW, the warnings about saving device entries as preferences is >confusing; any enlightened words of wisdom for what that means for multi >users would also be welcome. An example: * User A has saved a patch X to location A-11. He quits SD with this patch in the prefs * User B saves patch Y to location A-11. He also quits SD * Now User A loads his prefs which contains patch X in A-11, but the device still contains Y in A-11. So SD and the device are out of sync. This is what the warning is about. -- Beste Gruesse - best regards, Michael Haydn EMAGIC Soft- und Hardware GmbH SoundDiver Group Executive Logic Windows Developer Unitor8 Control Project Manager

I have a TC fireworx and a TC M3000. I found that selecting paches on these machines is a bit tedious. It would be great to have modules for these machines, at least for the memory manager, (editing is fine). Are there any plans for future support of these units? Thanks

Greetings, I'm trying to install the latest version of SD, and I keep getting 'UNI MODULE NOT LOADED'. Any thougts as to how I can make this install happen? Thanx y'all Boe

Thanks Michael I believe it is a control change #1. I am in the "home" setting, so it is just the channel 1 fader. I have the the transmit and rcv channels set on 16 (AMT8 recognizes this automatically). I do have all the rcv parameters enabled because we are going to use Logic to control faders and effect sends, etc. Do you want the Control Change Assignment Table Bulk Dump Format info from the manual append. Peter Fischer Michael Haydn wrote: > At 9:31 -0600 31.08.00, Peter Fischer wrote: > >I'm stumped about this one. While sometimes in SoundDiver and > >especially when I quit the program a MIDI message is sent to the 01v > >that pulls fader one down all the way. I 've looked through the manual > >and frankly don't know what to look for. I'm using the AMT8, a K2500XS, > >and a Mac G3 (beige). Any ideas about what I set that might then cause > >this? > > What messages does the 01v use for the sliders? > > -- > > Beste Gruesse - best regards, > > Michael Haydn > EMAGIC Soft- und Hardware GmbH > SoundDiver Group Executive > Logic Windows Developer > Unitor8 Control Project Manager

JKJensen wrote: >I have a TC fireworx and a TC M3000. > >I found that selecting paches on these machines is a bit tedious. > >It would be great to have modules for these machines, at least >for the memory manager, (editing is fine). > >Are there any plans for future support of these units? I don't know about Emagics plan, but maybe I'll give it a try. I also would like to see a bankloader. Ray ----------------------------------------------------------- ray@... |_ Raymund Beyer http://www.brainstorm-music.de |_ D3, 4 ICQ: 17201606 |_ 68159 Mannheim Fon +49 (0) 621 48044 60 |_ Germany -----------------------------------------------------------

Michael Thank you, it all becomes clearer by the moment. My students are designing sounds from scratch, so, would it be best to have a generic preference (the none setting in preferences dialog box) that they all use and then just load the 200's bank (what they are doing) from their library. It means that none of the K2500's sounds are loaded in the memory manager. If I do use the prefs that store all the device's memory and the situation you described happens, is there a problem with each student sending their library (which they of course do each time) and overiding it. Could this cause crashes when done 10 or 15 times each day? Peter Fischer Michael Haydn wrote: >>snip > > An example: > > * User A has saved a patch X to location A-11. He quits SD with this > patch in the prefs > > * User B saves patch Y to location A-11. He also quits SD > > * Now User A loads his prefs which contains patch X in A-11, but the > device still contains Y in A-11. So SD and the device are out of > sync. This is what the warning is about. > > -- > > Beste Gruesse - best regards, > > Michael Haydn > EMAGIC Soft- und Hardware GmbH > SoundDiver Group Executive > Logic Windows Developer > Unitor8 Control Project Manager