Yeah it would be nice for it to continue natively in one of the new OS, but I'm not holding my breath. I'm still using soundDiver on OS9 and Windows XP, and I guess that will be the end of the line for my Unitor II and 4x AMT8's. Shame because I really like sounddiver, for the 80s and 90s korg, roland and waldorf stuff especially. And no I'm not going to sell all my hardware - my fingers are tuned to this stuff. What the heck am I going to replace it all with, is there anything else with midi synch across 40 midi channels that deals happily with sysex and works day and day out with no complaints, and can be got downunder? In ten years I've had to return one AMT8, and they could'nt find anything wrong with it - so I replaced the power supply and problem solved. That kind of reliability is hard to get. Whats the best bet for midi on the new intel macs and is there anybody supporting sysex control of hardware synths properly on either the mac or wintel platform? Or should I plan on keeping the status quo as long as possible. I have got a edirol UM880 for one rack and within its own channels its quite good, but I can't synch it to anything else. Damn I hate upgrading. Cheers Caleb _____ From: sounddiver-users@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sounddiver-users@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of spamisevil Sent: Wednesday, 3 January 2007 9:42 a.m. To: sounddiver-users@yahoogroups.com Subject: [SoundDiver] Re: should we send a petition to Apple? I'm wondering who would dedicate themselves to this? M. Hayden was the original developer, right? Open Source is really cool. But SD has always seemed to be quite complicated software, right? Anyway, I signed the petition. I hope something good happens because I've very very reluctantly given up using some of my hardware. It's absolutely true that the technology and sound of some of this "old" gear is still unmatched. For example, the 8 outs or the three placement points in a stereo field of the Yahama TX802, not to mention the 8 voice flexible confirguration, is still unmatched today. Of course we are small in numbers, and profits-this-year seem more important than customer support to many companies. John Oliver . composer . performer . writer. producer Info. http://www.johnoliv <http://www.johnolivermusic.com>; ermusic.com Scores. http://members. <http://members.sibeliusmusic.com/johnoliver>; sibeliusmusic.com/johnoliver Oliver Yu Duo . http://earsay. <http://earsay.com/oy>; com/oy Structural Damage . http://earsay. <http://earsay.com/structuraldamage>; com/structuraldamage Canadian Music Centre . http://musiccentre. <http://musiccentre.ca>; ca earsay CD label . http://earsay. <http://earsay.com>; com Canadian New Music Review . http://cnmr. <http://cnmr.earsay.com>; earsay.com > Releasing SoundDiver for OSX (& Windows too please) code to the open > source community would rock. Apple could do the license such that they > have rights to keep whatever integration components they want for > Logic's benefit, but by leaving other components to the OS community, > it would help Apple to "support" a product they'd rather not support, > but still benefit by it's being alive in the wild.