I just found a standalone editor for the matrix 1000 and 6R it's freeware too. use google, I think you'll find it pretty easy. I'm going to give this a try. After posting I realized I haven't used my Matrix6r much since switching to OSX and now I remember why... diver just doesn't cut it on OSX. I used diver since v.1 (even going as far as making my own adaptations) and I've tried numerous inconvienent workarounds...like editing in 9, etc. but that just drives me farther from my synths. I like my synths better than I like what diver has become-not very useful- for me it's time to give up on this program. Has anyone here tried the midiquest editors? I just downloaded the demo and it looks as good as the old diver. I'll have to hook it up tomorrow and see if it's worth a purchase. Quel drag. Sleeper > better than MacOSX/SDbeta unless you access your AMT8 within MacOSX. Just make sure > there are no applications running in MacOSX which connect to your AMT8. I've got no > problems editing my Matrix1000 under Classic/OMS2.3.8/SD3.0.5. > An alternative would be (open source, still under developement) http:// www.jsynthlib.org/ > > Hope that helps > Greets > groba >