I'm working on music for a movie which isn't finished yet. So i only have rough material to work with and i want to be able to skip randomly through the movie material and see how the music that's logic is playing at that moment works for different fragments. Only problem is that Logic always syncs to the movie [or vice versa] so when i move the Quicktime slider to check another fragment Logic also moves to another position in the arrangment. Which i don't want because i want to hear a specific part of the composition. Hope i made muself clear and that anyone knows the tric! Cheers! Mark

MArk Drillich <soundcraft@kong.nl> writes: >I'm working on music for a movie which isn't finished yet. So i only have >rough material to work with and i want to be able to skip randomly through >the movie material and see how the music that's logic is playing at that >moment works for different fragments. >Only problem is that Logic always syncs to the movie [or vice versa] so when >i move the Quicktime slider to check another fragment Logic also moves to >another position in the arrangment. Which i don't want because i want to >hear a specific part of the composition. >Hope i made muself clear and that anyone knows the tric! Open the movie in QuickTime player if you don't want it aligned with Logic's timeline. There won't be a floating window, and you'll have to hit Play and Stop in two programs. The other way is to leave the movie opened in Logic, but keep changing the movie's offset so that it aligns with Logic's timeline differently. f-erenc szabo, smarty pants Z+E+R+O+B+E+A+T "NOW POWERED BY THE MIRACLE OF THE TRANSISTOR!" <http://home.goodmedia.com/~zerobeat> ----------------------------------------------------------------- Group Buy until Feb 22nd for Virtual Instruments Magazine! See http://logic-users.org/groupbuy/vimag for full details.

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Ferenc's method is about the best way. Logic is a major pain to deal with when you want to try a cue under another scene. Performer lets you unlock the movie so its easy to slide your music to that scene. So far the apple Pro Techniques appear to take that Microsoft approach - the information is basically correct but rather useless as the information raises more questions than it answers. Get ready to type in smpte numbers to achieve what you want. e ----------------------------------------------------------------- Group Buy until Feb 22nd for Virtual Instruments Magazine! See http://logic-users.org/groupbuy/vimag for full details.

ecadesky <eric@glassorchestra.com> wrote: > Performer lets you unlock the movie so its easy to > slide your music to that scene. Could you explain that one in a little more detail? DP is excellent when it comes to scoring-to-picture features, but I'm wondering how this differs from changing the offset in the movie in Logic, which slides the movie around (but keeps the audio/MIDI where it is). I know one thing I'd LOVE in Logic: the ability to grab the movie "region" in the Global Track and slide it around with a mouse or nudge commands like a regular audio or MIDI region. The big difference with the movie "region" is that it can start way way way before the beginning of Logic's timeline, so I can sorta see why it's not too easy to implement this feature in Logic. f-erenc szabo, smarty pants Z+E+R+O+B+E+A+T "NOW POWERED BY THE MIRACLE OF THE TRANSISTOR!" <http://home.goodmedia.com/~zerobeat> ----------------------------------------------------------------- Group Buy until Feb 22nd for Virtual Instruments Magazine! See http://logic-users.org/groupbuy/vimag for full details.

On 3-Feb-07, at 5:47 PM, f-erenc szabo wrote: > ecadesky <eric@glassorchestra.com> wrote: > > Performer lets you unlock the movie so its easy to > > slide your music to that scene. > > Could you explain that one in a little more detail? > > DP is excellent when it comes to scoring-to-picture > features, but I'm wondering how this differs from > changing the offset in the movie in Logic, which > slides the movie around (but keeps the audio/MIDI > where it is). > > I know one thing I'd LOVE in Logic: the ability to grab > the movie "region" in the Global Track and slide it around > with a mouse or nudge commands like a regular audio > or MIDI region. The big difference with the movie "region" > is that it can start way way way before the beginning of > Logic's timeline, so I can sorta see why it's not too easy to > implement this feature in Logic. > > f-erenc szabo, smarty pants > Z+E+R+O+B+E+A+T > "NOW POWERED BY THE MIRACLE OF THE TRANSISTOR!" > <http://home.goodmedia.com/~zerobeat> > > > > > I don't remember all the details but my friend showed me the little lock icon on the QT window in Performer. When this is unlocked you somehow can slide the movie, (or is it your cue?), to another scene anywhere in the movie timeline without messing up one frame of your sequence or your tempo changes. Performer has a few cool ideas that make scoring for film or tv a bit faster than Logic's way of accomplishing the same thing, and you jump through fewer hoops, hence fewer sleep-deprived-deadline-looming errors! as for your comment about grabbing a movie region and sliding it - that, I believe is the Performer concept. Perhaps these tips may help you work faster - for a tv show I always make a master song the entire length of the show, or for reel 1 of the movie and I then save as a project. Then I line up the movie so it starts at least at bar 9, Nick likes to start at bar 30! From there on in all cues are snipped from this master and resaved with the smpte start time etc. another quick tip - I Import Audio from movie to Arrange. Line it up so it is in sync with the QT audio playback. I like to pan them so I can hear when flanging disappears. Set the locators by this file Bounce down to WAV. Offline bounce is fast and doesn't have verb etc to mess up as it is only bouncing audio. The file will now be time stamped. In each new cue bring in this wav file and if you use File To Original Record position after trimming it close to where you think it should be smpte-wise (or you will get an out of range smpte error or something like that) then it will line up faster than trying to line up the file from scratch. Because Logic no longer seems to be frame accurate with files you may find that your file may be out by 2-5 frames, an easy nudge to fix. e ----------------------------------------------------------------- Group Buy until Feb 22nd for Virtual Instruments Magazine! See http://logic-users.org/groupbuy/vimag for full details.

hi Ferenc, opening the movie in Quicktime is what i've been doing lately, it works but it is as you mention: no floating window and a lot of start/stop clicking. I've tried the changing offset but found it not very easy to control. Maybe i've to get used to using this option.

On 2007/02/05, at 4:03, MArk Drillich wrote: > Message posted by MArk Drillich <soundcraft@kong.nl>: > > hi Ferenc, > > opening the movie in Quicktime is what i've been doing lately, it > works but it is as you mention: no floating window and a lot of > start/stop clicking. If it's not too obvious, you can use space bar for QTPlayer (when it's foreground) and MMC (whenever) for Logic. Best regards, Tatsuo ----------------------------------------------------------------- Group Buy until Feb 22nd for Virtual Instruments Magazine! See http://logic-users.org/groupbuy/vimag for full details.

ecadesky <eric@glassorchestra.com> wrote: > Perhaps these tips may help you work faster - yes they will - thanks!

Hello, I plan to use an AMT8 with a Powerbook G3 and OMS. Where can I download the latest OMS driver ? I couldn't find a close match on the emagic area of Apple ftp. Thanks in advance: Zsolt