I'm not sure if any of this is true or not - but I have heard some talk about the stereo spread in logic not being as wide in the mix as it could be. I think it had to do with using a stereo track vs two mono tracks instead. Is any of this true? Is it better to use 2 mono tracks rather than one stereo track to get a wider stereo spread? Someone else mentioned that it might be a good idea to use some sort of existing logic plugin to help widen the stereo spread on these stereo tracks. There is a special logic plug-in called " stereo spread " - would this be the proper plug-in to alleviate this issue? Is it really needed? -- Thanks - RevDave CoolCat@hosting4days.com [db-lists]

On 31.12.2006, at 19:11, revDAVE wrote: > I'm not sure if any of this is true or not - but I have heard some > talk > about the stereo spread in logic not being as wide in the mix as it > could > be. I think it had to do with using a stereo track vs two mono tracks > instead. Sorry, I cannot follow. What means "as it could be"? We are in the digital domain. Do that people believe that Logic subtracts numbers from the left and right channel just to cheat us? Or do they expect a software to make their mix wider than it is? Where is the problem? ___ Peter Ostry

> I'm not sure if any of this is true or not - but I have heard some > talk > about the stereo spread in logic not being as wide in the mix as it > could > be. I think it had to do with using a stereo track vs two mono tracks > instead. If you have a stereo channel with sound on the left and no sound on the right, that's how it'll come out of a stereo channel. I can't imagine any way the stereo image could be any wider than that. :o) I guess this "talk" consists of misunderstood complaints about certain plugin-combinations or other situations. In fact "stereo spread" refers to a plugin (as you mention below) but it has nothing to do with the wideness of your existing stereo image (which is what you seem to be concerned about). > Is any of this true? Is it better to use 2 mono tracks rather than one > stereo track to get a wider stereo spread? No. :o) The only reason for using 2 mono tracks instead of one stereo track is if you want to apply completely different effects to the individual channels. Without plugins or other tricks applied, a stereo file played through a stereo track will give the exact same result as the same file played through a separate left and right channel. > Someone else mentioned that it might be a good idea to use some > sort of > existing logic plugin to help widen the stereo spread on these stereo > tracks. There is a special logic plug-in called " stereo spread " - > would > this be the proper plug-in to alleviate this issue? Is it really > needed? As I said, stereo spreading is something completely different. The stereo spreader gives a stereo impression to a mono signal by dividing it into chunks across its frequency spectrum, and spreading out those chunks across the stereo image. It can be nice for "stereo- izing" mono solo instruments, but often a short stereo delay will give a much nicer and fuller effect. However, the stereo spreader is fully mono-compatible, whereas short stereo delays can cause unwanted effects if your music is played back mono. Anyway the stereo spreader has nothing to do with enhancing an existing stereo image; in fact it totally destroys it. :o) But seeing that you call the stereo wideness "spread" as well, you might not have confused the solutions but rather the problems talked about. Maurits

On 12/31/2006 7:17 PM, "Peter Ostry" <po@ostry.com> wrote: > On 31.12.2006, at 19:11, revDAVE wrote: >> I'm not sure if any of this is true or not - but I have heard some >> talk >> about the stereo spread in logic not being as wide in the mix as it >> could >> be. I think it had to do with using a stereo track vs two mono tracks >> instead. > > Sorry, I cannot follow. What means "as it could be"? We are in the > digital domain. Do that people believe that Logic subtracts numbers > from the left and right channel just to cheat us? Or do they expect a > software to make their mix wider than it is? Where is the problem? The comment came from a pro tools user who mentioned that the stereo imaging of the master bus in logic was not as wide as PT-HD... Maybe it was just a bias thing - but that's what they said... - were they just blowing smoke? So I was wondering if the stereo track had anything to do with it.... -- Thanks - RevDave CoolCat@hosting4days.com [db-lists]

Thanks Maurits for clearing up things for me... So when I pan the stereo track all the way the left - then it seems to only play the left side - not the right ... So if I had a stereo piano and wanted to pan BOTH side all the way left - would I then need 2 mono tracks instead - or how does this work? -- Thanks - RevDave CoolCat@hosting4days.com [db-lists]

revDAVE <coolcat@hosting4days.com> wrote: > o when I pan the stereo track all the way the left - then it > seems to only play the left side - not the right ... So if I > had a stereo piano and wanted to pan BOTH side all the way left > - would I then need 2 mono tracks instead - or how does this work? > -- In Logic you need to use the plug-i called the Direction Mixer for greater control of the stereo panning field.