I feel like an idiot but I have had problems with this since I started using Logic. Ill import a loop of drums and when I try to make it fit the tempo im working on I cant get it to do so. Recently I was messing around with it and I changed the loop pitch and length but the original wav has been permanently changed. I would appreciate any advice on this cause I would really like to know wtf im doing wrong.

On 7 dec 2006, at 06.52, Catherine wrote: > I feel like an idiot but I have had problems with this since I > started using > Logic. Ill import a loop of drums and when I try to make it fit the > tempo im > working on I cant get it to do so. Recently I was messing around > with it and > I changed the loop pitch and length but the original wav has been > permanently changed. I would appreciate any advice on this cause I > would > really like to know wtf im doing wrong. Since Apple Loops and "follow tempo audio" was introduced I have almost stopped using that old Pitch n Groove Machine of Logic's. As you're saying, it writes any changes destructively to the audio files and I don't like that for loop library files. From what I remember I wasn't very successful in hitting the correct loop length for the new tempo either, in the P n G Machine. It seemed it didn't calculate correctly so I had to type in a slightly different tempo than the actual to get near ;-)) oh those memories... Instead of going into that old ghost part of Logic you can simply make an apple loop copy of the loop and it will automatically adapt to your tempo (details in the manual). BTW I'm a big fan of PHATmatic pro in Logic. Even though the the AU Manager doesn't pass it and that it's now a discontinued product the PMP works great for me when needing to have a loop played back to a different song tempo. It also provides some funny audio mangling options. If I need to do some advanced groove quantizing I use PMP, otherwise I just stick with Apple Loops. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) http://www.myspace.com/looproom

--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, "Catherine" <forums@...> wrote: > > Message posted by Catherine <lockedinspace@...>: > > I feel like an idiot but I have had problems with this since I started using > Logic. Ill import a loop of drums and when I try to make it fit the tempo im > working on I cant get it to do so. Recently I was messing around with it and > I changed the loop pitch and length but the original wav has been > permanently changed. I would appreciate any advice on this cause I would > really like to know wtf im doing wrong. > Hi, If all you're trying to do is fit a drum loop to bar or locators (loop points L&R) and you're using Logic Pro 7.x, there is an arrange page menu item that could solve you're problems; either; (Arrange Page Menu)>Audio>Adjust Region Lengths to Locators or (Arrange Page Menu)>Audio>Adjust Region Length to Nearest Bar Beneath that is an additional menu that allows you to choose an algorithm appropriate to your needs (Universal/Complex/Percussive). Hope this helps, Mike

--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, Per Boysen <perboysen@...> wrote: > BTW I'm a big fan of PHATmatic pro in Logic. Even though the the AU > Manager doesn't pass it and that it's now a discontinued product the > PMP works great for me when needing to have a loop played back to a > different song tempo. It also provides some funny audio mangling > options. If I need to do some advanced groove quantizing I use PMP, > otherwise I just stick with Apple Loops. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen Hi Per, I pretty sure phatmatik hasn't been discontinued and it authorizes fine for me. This product (and iDrum) have been taken on by izotope and for more recent updates you should talk to them. Coincidentally they do their own algorithm for time stretching in logic (he says struggling back on topic!) Mike

> > BTW I'm a big fan of PHATmatic pro in Logic. Even though the the AU > > Manager doesn't pass it and that it's now a discontinued product the > > PMP works great for me when needing to have a loop played back to a > > different song tempo. It also provides some funny audio mangling > > options. If I need to do some advanced groove quantizing I use PMP, > > otherwise I just stick with Apple Loops. > > > > Greetings from Sweden > > > > Per Boysen On 7 dec 2006, at 15.11, mt100uk wrote: > Hi Per, > I pretty sure phatmatik hasn't been discontinued and it authorizes > fine for me. This product > (and iDrum) have been taken on by izotope and for more recent > updates you should talk to > them. Ok. Thanks for the note! I stand corrected ;-) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) http://www.myspace.com/looproom

Thanks guys.