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From: Richard Ford <richford@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 at 8:19:50 AM
Subject: Piano scoring in logic 7.2 - how can I isolate notes/phrases and get the tails the right way round
Message #221892
I have had a thorough look at the book on the subject of beaming - I want to isolate a portion of my piano score ( roughly between clefs) - it is essentially an accompaniment in the middle with a separate bass and treble part - fairly standard stuff really. It has been suggested to me that I need to record or somehow separate the score parts altogether, using three different instruments and somehow stitch them all together afterwards in the score. I find it hard to believe that such a simple task - one that you would want to perform on almost any piano score is so inordinately difficult and time consuming to achieve. Are there any ideas how I might get around this. Thanks, Richard
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From: Brian Gascoigne <brian@gascoigne.demon.co.uk>
Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 at 10:33:57 AM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Piano scoring in logic 7.2 - how can I isolate
Message #221901
This is a reply to #221892.
<quotes repositioned and trimmed by admin> Message posted by Richard Ford <<mailto:richford%40gmail.com>richford@gmail.com>: >I have had a thorough look at the book on the subject of beaming - I want to >isolate a portion of my piano score ( roughly between clefs) - it is >essentially an accompaniment in the middle with a separate bass and treble >part - fairly standard stuff really. >It has been suggested to me that I need to record or somehow separate the >score parts altogether, using three different instruments and somehow stitch >them all together afterwards in the score. >I find it hard to believe that such a simple task - one that you would want >to perform on almost any piano score is so inordinately difficult and time >consuming to achieve. Method 1, leaving midi untouched, only works internally in Logic: First you need to have 2 score styles prepared. One will have, say, 6 voices, on channels 1 - 6. the other will have, usually, 4 voices on 2 staves with the beams and rests organised as you will want them in the final score. Then, select the passage, assign the 6 voice score style, and use the command <Functions <Note events < Voices to Channels. Then you use the command <View <Explode Polyphony, which will give you the channel split that Logic has guessed spread over 6 staves. Make yourself key commands for Increase Channel, and Decrease Channel, and using that you can get the notes into 4 discrete lines. Check on the Event List that no notes have gone missing (if Logic has assigned them a higher number than 6, they won't show up in the 6 voice style).then when you reassign the score style to the 4 voices on 2 staves, Bob should be your uncle. Method 2, altering midi, but quicker for xfer to Sibelius: On the matrix page, use the Shift Option Velocity tool to separate the music into 4 different colours, for your four voices. Make 4 copies of the sequence, called Piano 1 - 4. It's then very quick to erase 3 parts from each sequence, leaving you with what Sibelius will see as four lines. Make a new piano instrument, import the 4 lines, and that's the quickest way I've found. Finally, if you're trying to do anything like this on the score page, you need Johannes Prischl's book on the subject. as for the other unnecessary pains involved in xfer from Logic to Sibelius, don't get me started. Regards Brian
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