I hope you can help solve a problem. Below is a little outline of something I'd like to accomplish. The RIG- 1) Logic host 2) AU-Kontakt2 3) Reason-rewired 4) AU-Battery 3 5) Ableton Live 6 (standalone) 6) Roland Module Midi controllers 1- Akai 4000s Wind controller with midi out and audio out 2- Axiom 49 -keys and pads 3- generic keyboard with 10 rotaries 7) Yamaha MFC10 Acoustic instruments played through effects 1 Voice 2 Tenor Sax 3 Soprano Sax 4 Flute How best can I setup Logic Environment to handle all of this. I will play patches from Reason, Kontakt and EXS with both midi controllers. Imagine 10 instruments preloaded in reason, 10 in Kontakt, 4 EXS, and can play the module. How do I select patches for each device on the fly to play from either controller ? I have a Yamaha MFC10 pedal board that I can use to do some switching. I know I can set reason so that it locks certain devices to a controller. I know i can set EWI and Axiom on different midi channels. Logic would then know which instrument I'm playing. BUt how do I tell logic -play Reason device 2 for EWI and Reason device 4 for Axiom. Ot play track 1(kontsakt 1) from axiom and track 3( reason device 2) from EWI. I woud setup 14 instrument tracks but how would I select through them ? How would I have EWI and Axiom and generic controller ready to play and be able to play any patch of my softsynths or module? How would i make sure logic knows which soft sampler/synth from which controller. Would I setup a midi channel switcher ? Would I set up different layers one for each controller that sends on certain midi channel? My Ewi would be connected through the AXIOM midi in or the MFC10 midi in and I would never be playing the EWI and the AXIOM simultaneously. Would I setup the foot pedal so that I can press one for channel 1(EWI) 2 for Channel 2(AXIOM) ? So that any signal going into logic would be setup for that instrument ? At that point how would I get either of them to do patch change for the particular instrument I'm seeking in Kontakt or Reason given that each will except up to 64 channels(I'd probably only be using the first 16 of either. Hope this all makes sense. I can kind of see many ways that this can be accomplished but I dont' really havea grasp on what is best for on stage workflow. Hope a you guys can help. lastly, I want to play the acoustic instruments and EWI through effects. How do I set it up Logic's environment so that there is an open channel at all times for me to play instruments through. Effects would be reverb,chorus,delay and maybe some other effects. I'd want to set those up so I can disable any of them if desired. I wouldn' be using a lot of effects just a little of all.

Hi, Am I correct in my assumptions that it is not possible to copy the settings from one EXS24 instrument to another? I.e. applying one instruments settings to the samples of a different instrument. (filter settings, MIDI bindings, envelope etc etc). Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) http://www.myspace.com/looproom

Per Boysen wrote: > Am I correct in my assumptions that it is not possible to copy the > settings from one EXS24 instrument to another? I.e. applying one > instruments settings to the samples of a different instrument. > (filter settings, MIDI bindings, envelope etc etc). There's a more or less convoluted workaround, but it actually works: - Load the instrument you want to copy the settings to. - Chose "Delete Settings from Instrument" in the EXS' options menu. Make sure to use a copy if you want them to remain in the basic instrument. - Load the instrument you want to copy the settings from. - Reload the instrument that you deleted the settings from. It's not all that bad, just that you have to work on a copy of the instrument, should you want to preserve the original settings. Another option (instead of saving a copy first) would be to keep the original patch loaded on another instance of the EXS. So, once you're done deleting the settings from the target patch and transfering them from the source patch, you could save the instruments settings again, using the EXS instance still holding the original. Regards Sascha

On 4 dec 2006, at 16.05, Sascha Franck wrote: > There's a more or less convoluted workaround, but it actually works: > - Load the instrument you want to copy the settings to. > - Chose "Delete Settings from Instrument" in the EXS' options menu. > Make > sure to use a copy if you want them to remain in the basic instrument. > - Load the instrument you want to copy the settings from. > - Reload the instrument that you deleted the settings from. Thank you, Sascha! A highly usable workaround, given the circumstances ;-) But jeez, why couldnt' they just throw in an "Import Settings From Instrument" option? That was what I was looking for. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) http://www.myspace.com/looproom

On 04.12.2006, at 08:55, sax wrote: > I hope you can help solve a problem. Below is a little outline of > something I'd like to accomplish. > > How best can I setup Logic Environment to handle all of this. I had a similar setup recently and I ended up writing a Max-Patch for it. It's not that difficult and you should be able to do it with PD ("PureData") which is free and can do what Max does (more and less...;) kai -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- canine_at_waf80_dot_de good night europe. http://kainiggemann.de <your name here> ---------------------------------------------------------------------

> > > I hope you can help solve a problem. Below is a little outline of > > something I'd like to accomplish. > > > > How best can I setup Logic Environment to handle all of this. > > I had a similar setup recently and I ended up writing a Max-Patch for > it. It's not that difficult and you should be able to do it with PD > ("PureData") which is free and can do what Max does (more and less...;) > > kai > ON a Mac ?

On 05.12.2006, at 11:34, sax wrote: >> ("PureData") which is free and can do what Max does (more and >> less...;) > ON a Mac ? yes sir: http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/pure-data/pd-0.40-1.mac.tar.gz? download kai -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- canine_at_waf80_dot_de good night europe. http://kainiggemann.de <your name here> ---------------------------------------------------------------------

In my questioning, I've found a couple of resources that have put me a few steps forward. Glen's comments plus the info on the following links should assist anyone with getting this started. Below are some links to resources the environment. Some include detailed explanations of the environment (substitue rtf.) Others include downloadable files that do an assortment of processess that relate to my original question. http://www.swiftkick.com/ http://www.petethomas.co.uk/logic-environment-downloads.html http://www.heavyliftmusic.com/2005/08/29/29/ http://sonikmatter.com/wiki/Logic:Environment_Object-Multi_Instrument I believe sonikmatter is a place to gain a basic understanding. http://www.logicprohelp.com/viewforum.php?f=9 logicprohelp has a ton of download environments. The link is directly to the environments page BUT you'll have to register. To get back to the environment page, go home page>register>forum>logic Templates and Enivronments