Hi there, I was wondering if we could share some tips on humanizing some quantized parts. I've been using the "Humanize" option for some time now but I was wondering if you had any advanced tips. I'm mainly looking for making alive my classical scores. Thanks! Vincent

On 1 dec 2006, at 17.45, vinco_75 wrote: > I was wondering if we could share some tips on humanizing some > quantized parts. > > I've been using the "Humanize" option for some time now but I was > wondering if you had any > advanced tips. > > I'm mainly looking for making alive my classical scores. The generally best advice is to play parts manually into the sequencer. If you are not as good player as your composition demands simply turn down the tempo and play it slowly. One issue with this is that some sampler/synth patches have a slow attack, but this can easily be fixed by moving the entire track (all notes at the same time) to make it match the original tempo. This will work fine because the timing error coming from slow attack in an instrument patch is absolute. If you should decide to quantize it anyway, try quantizing from the Extended Regions window instead of from the Arrange Window's channel strip. This will give you much more control over the quantization process. Check out what happens if quantizing only velocity! Also explore and learn what you can do with the Transform Window (Cmd/ 4). For example, you can both compress and expand velocity or timing errors. Or change something randomly. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) http://www.myspace.com/looproom

"vinco_75" <groups@atanata.com> wrote: >I was wondering if we could share some tips on >humanizing some quantized parts. > >I've been using the "Humanize" option for some >time now but I was wondering if you had any >advanced tips. > >I'm mainly looking for making alive my classical scores. The following works in Logic Pro, not Express: First, some background: In the Arrange, you have what's called the "Region Parameter Playback Box", where you can adjust the Quantize, Velocity, Gate Time, Loop, Transpose and Delay for MIDI regions. If you double-click on any of the words above (not here in this email, but in Logic itself!) you will open up a variation of this same box with more parameters (called Extended Region Parameters Box). There's also a key command and menu command for this somewhere. You'll notice a a function there called Q-Strength (Quantize Strength). Normally, it's set to 100% so that things quantized to any give note value are moved exactly there. But often when you record a MIDI performance, setting this to something less than 100% is a happy medium between sloppy (but human) playing and robotic perfection (not that there's anything wrong with this in many contexts). There are also some other "Q" parameters there. Read the manual. For example, there's one that'll ignore notes that are close to the grid but only quantize ones that are further away. And there's one for the opposite. This makes sense when you're playing a bunch of 1/8th notes but every so often there's a note(s) that is supposed to NOT be an 1/8th note. f-erenc szabo, smarty pants Z+E+R+O+B+E+A+T "NOW POWERED BY THE MIRACLE OF THE TRANSISTOR!" <http://home.goodmedia.com/~zerobeat>

Hey - great advice, thanx!!! I was wondering, though, why the above-mentioned extended parameters are not avaliable in the transform window..? Being something of a power user, I usually do all my (advanced) quantizing there.. I spent hours with this, trying to figure out how to set quantize intervals, strength and so on - but after this, never again...:-) Perhaps this is actually a question for the developers, though.. Anyways, thanx! Dudeson