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From: "music251" <music251@yahoo.no>
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 at 11:55:43 AM
Subject: [LUG] Annoying clicking in sculpture sound
Message #221718
Hi. I know this may be a very stupid question, but I can't get rid of that very annoying clicking sound when I play in sculpture. It sounds as the filter attack is set to 0 ms, but that isn't it. For example load analog vintage lead patch, and play octaves quickly and you'll see what I mean. For me sculpture is pretty much the only native softsynth I like the sound of in logic, but I can't get rid of that initial clicking artifact. Can anyone help me out? :) Thanks!
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From: "mt100uk" <miketaylor100@mac.com>
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 at 6:52:52 PM
Subject: [LUG] Re: Annoying clicking in sculpture sound
Message #221729
This is a reply to #221718.
--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, "music251" <music251@...> wrote: > > Hi. > > I know this may be a very stupid question, but I can't get rid of that very annoying clicking > sound when I play in sculpture. It sounds as the filter attack is set to 0 ms, but that isn't it. > For example load analog vintage lead patch, and play octaves quickly and you'll see what I > mean. For me sculpture is pretty much the only native softsynth I like the sound of in logic, > but I can't get rid of that initial clicking artifact. Can anyone help me out? :) > Thanks! > Sculpture is a physics-based modelling synth (an excited string) and the click is part of the modelling process, try increasing the attck stage on the amp envlope, a small amount should get rid of the click without too much swell. Mike
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From: "music251" <music251@yahoo.no>
Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2006 at 8:15:12 AM
Subject: [LUG] Re: Annoying clicking in sculpture sound
Message #221771
This is a reply to #221729.
> Sculpture is a physics-based modelling synth (an excited string) and the click is part of the > modelling process, try increasing the attck stage on the amp envlope, a small amount should > get rid of the click without too much swell. > > Mike > Thanks for replying, but you missed the point. I can't get rid of the initial clicking sound - even if the attack parameters are turned up. If this artifact can't be removed, then that's a huge flaw IMO. Is there a way to fix this? Thanks!
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From: "Wade" <bloomer@iprimus.com.au>
Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2006 at 7:33:15 AM
Subject: [LUG] Re: Annoying clicking in sculpture sound
Message #221789
This is a reply to #221771.
--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, "music251" <music251@...> wrote: > Thanks for replying, but you missed the point. I can't get rid of the initial clicking sound - > even if the attack parameters are turned up. If this artifact can't be removed, then that's a > huge flaw IMO. > Is there a way to fix this? > Thanks! There's no click inherent to Sculpture. Basically you're describing a characteristic of the patch you've chosen. If you don't like the way it sounds, it can be changed via a huge number of parameters. Reaching for Attack would be logical for most synths, but Sculpture ain't most synths. The ADSR section is still important but isn't such a guiding force - lot of other parameters will have far more control over the sound and should be visited first. The most obvious thing I can think of would be to change the way the virtual string is initially aggravated. In the case of your patch, object 1 is set to 'pick'. Try something else. Considering the sound you've chosen isn't super Sculpture-ish in the first place (analog vintage lead), if you don't like this sound as is and find it's proving too time-consuming changing it, it's probably easier to get an equivalent sound in one of Logic's other synths and then to twiddle the attack knob there :) But I'd recommend knuckling down with the manual. If you like Sculpture's sounds, you're gonna have to do this at some point anyway. The way the controls respond to each other is complex enough that a half hour session of tweaking and listening while reading will save you hours of blind knob-twiddling in future. It's not an easy synth in which to just 'hazard' upon the sound you like without knowing more about how it works.
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