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From: "Trevor Gilchrist" <trevor@fiveshortstories.com>
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 at 11:24:42 PM
Subject: [LUG] MIDI tantrums on the IAC bus...
Message #221710
Hi, I'm having a real hard time getting the IAC bus to work as MIDI conduit between Logic and Kontakt standalone. If there's anyone who can help, I'd greatly appreciate it. I have Kontakt up and running and being successfully triggered from that little MidiKeys utiliy over the IAC bus — no problems at all. As soon as I quit MidiKeys and launch Logic; select a midi instrument; set it to transmit midi on the same IAC bus (just like I did with MidiKeys) I get blasted with this HUGE feedback loop that can only be killed with a force quit of Kontakt... What is going on?!? I've stared at the problem for hours and I can't figure it out at all. But it's the same every time I try to make the connection. Kontakt has a MIDI tantrum. Kontakt is set to have the IAC Bus 1 as its "input" Midi channl — all others are toggled off. It has no output channels active. As I said before, it likes it when MidiKeys talks to it... IAC only has one bus. Logic is just opening a standard, factory template. I'm so confused I had to quit and walk away. Hoping someone can shed some light...
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From: "John Pitcairn" <johnp@opuslocus.net>
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 at 3:47:13 PM
Subject: [LUG] Re: MIDI tantrums on the IAC bus...
Message #221724
This is a reply to #221710.
--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, "Trevor Gilchrist" <trevor@...> wrote: > IAC only has one bus. But it's a two-ended bus, not just a source or destination. Logic will also receive anything sent to it (Logic listens to all ports), so if the sending instrument is the selected track in the Arrange, you have a loop. Block the IAC port outlet at the environment Physical Input (cable to dead-end monitor or such). This will prevent messages from the IAC bus reaching the Arrange. Note that if you're using Logic Express, you're screwed - there's no way to block one port. In this case, MIDIPipe should be used rather than IAC. John Pitcairn ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - LC Xmu Logic/Mackie Control emulation & management, LC Xview software LC/MC display, Logic environments & stuff... Opus Locus - http://www.opuslocus.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -
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From: Trevor Gilchrist <trevor@fiveshortstories.com>
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 at 4:05:32 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Re: MIDI tantrums on the IAC bus...
Message #221728
This is a reply to #221724.
On Nov 30, 2006, at 1:47 PM, John Pitcairn wrote: > --- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, "Trevor Gilchrist" <trevor@...> > wrote: > > IAC only has one bus. > > But it's a two-ended bus, not just a source or destination. Logic will > also receive anything sent to it (Logic listens to all ports), so if > the sending instrument is the selected track in the Arrange, you have > a loop. > > Block the IAC port outlet at the environment Physical Input (cable to > dead-end monitor or such). This will prevent messages from the IAC bus > reaching the Arrange. > > Note that if you're using Logic Express, you're screwed - there's no > way to block one port. In this case, MIDIPipe should be used rather > than IAC. > > John Pitcairn > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > LC Xmu Logic/Mackie Control emulation & management, > LC Xview software LC/MC display, Logic environments & stuff... > Opus Locus - http://www.opuslocus.com > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > John, you are my hero. That was the problem, plain and simple. I had no idea. Blocking the port, eh? Who knew? Thanks again. Many thanks, Trevor Gilchrist -------------------------------------------------------------- 2D & 3D Motion Graphics for TV and Film Film & Commercials Scores -------------------------------------------------------------- trevor@fiveshortstories.com -------------------------------------------------------------- Film music: http://www.trevorgilchrist.com Commercials music: http://www.thirtysecs.com --------------------------------------------------------------
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From: "Cyril Blanc" <blanc.cyril@wanadoo.fr>
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 at 10:23:23 PM
Subject: [LUG] Re: MIDI tantrums on the IAC bus...
Message #221730
This is a reply to #221724.
--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, "John Pitcairn" <johnp@...> wrote: > > --- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, "Trevor Gilchrist" <trevor@> wrote: > > IAC only has one bus. > > But it's a two-ended bus, not just a source or destination. Logic will > also receive anything sent to it (Logic listens to all ports), so if > the sending instrument is the selected track in the Arrange, you have > a loop. > > Block the IAC port outlet at the environment Physical Input (cable to > dead-end monitor or such). This will prevent messages from the IAC bus > reaching the Arrange. > > Note that if you're using Logic Express, you're screwed - there's no > way to block one port. In this case, MIDIPipe should be used rather > than IAC. > > John Pitcairn > HI John Have you tried that with sending a midi clock to the software connected thru IAC ? Even cabling a monitor on the inputs is making Logic going mad Best Cyril
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From: "John Pitcairn" <johnp@opuslocus.net>
Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2006 at 4:02:27 PM
Subject: [LUG] Re: MIDI tantrums on the IAC bus...
Message #221804
This is a reply to #221730.
--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, "Cyril Blanc" <blanc.cyril@...> wrote: > Have you tried that with sending a midi clock to the software > connected thru IAC ? > Even cabling a monitor on the inputs is making Logic going mad I think Logic grabs any incoming clock signal before it reaches the environment, so if you have Logic set to auto-sync to external clock, it will keep trying to sync to its own clock through the IAC loop. The solution might be to turn off the auto-sync, which I think is in tempo & sync prefs (song prefs?) John Pitcairn ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - LC Xmu Logic/Mackie Control emulation & management, LC Xview software LC/MC display, Logic environments & stuff... Opus Locus - http://www.opuslocus.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -
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From: "Cyril Blanc" <blanc.cyril@wanadoo.fr>
Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 at 2:37:59 AM
Subject: [LUG] Re: MIDI tantrums on the IAC bus...
Message #221886
This is a reply to #221804.
> --- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, "Cyril Blanc" <blanc.cyril@> wrote: > > Have you tried that with sending a midi clock to the software > > connected thru IAC ? > > Even cabling a monitor on the inputs is making Logic going mad --- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, "John Pitcairn" <johnp@...> wrote: > > The solution might be to turn off the auto-sync, which I think is in > tempo & sync prefs (song prefs?) > Hi John Thanks for your answer. Logic is OK now, but external K2 does not follow tempo changes ! Many thanks Cyril
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