this past week in NYC, we had a logic users group meeting, and i was speaking with a gent who told me that he gets better performance storing his samples (exs, kontact, stylus, etc) on his main drive and then he tracks audio to an external FW drive... my present set up is: dual g5 (MH aduio interface) 1-main internal drive 1-additional internal drive 3-external fire wire drives i also have an additional pci card which gives me an additional 2 usb & 2 FW ports... where is the best place to store samples and recording audio? is it best like the example this gent uses with his macbook pro? i've always used external FW drives for samples and the 2nd internal drive to track audio... any advice would be grateful-- as well as advice on a solid FW drive to add... i have 2 mercury elite drives getting ready to go south-- and the one glyph drive continues to perform really well... anyone? peace tv

On 05/11/2006, at 11:20 AM, tvlogic wrote: > this past week in NYC, we had a logic users group meeting, and i > was speaking with a gent > who told me that he gets better performance storing his samples > (exs, kontact, stylus, etc) > on his main drive and then he tracks audio to an external FW drive... > > my present set up is: > dual g5 (MH aduio interface) > 1-main internal drive > 1-additional internal drive > 3-external fire wire drives > > i also have an additional pci card which gives me an additional 2 > usb & 2 FW ports... > > where is the best place to store samples and recording audio? is > it best like the example > this gent uses with his macbook pro? i've always used external FW > drives for samples and > the 2nd internal drive to track audio... > > any advice would be grateful-- as well as advice on a solid FW > drive to add... i have 2 > mercury elite drives getting ready to go south-- and the one glyph > drive continues to > perform really well... The principals involved in HD management are pretty straightforward. Audio tracks require HD's to work some, the more tracks the more the HD has to work. Streaming sample based instruments (EXS, VSL, BFD, Ivory etc..) also require HD/s to work a lot - so it's not rocket science that it makes good sense to put your audio playback/ record tracks on one drive and your streaming instruments on another. Popular wisdom suggests that we don't use our internal system drive for any of these activities. Mainly because we don't want to add wear and tear to that drive since it has to run so much anyway. Once Logic has booted up it rarely needs to look at this drive during normal operation. Some people use it to stream audio from even without realising it. If you let Logic install it's Apple Loops and Factory EXS libraries in their default locations this is the drive they live on - thus when you use those audio types this system drive will be doing some streaming. If you're like me I run several large streaming Instruments, EXS, VSL, BFD and Ivory. In addition to this my work tends to have a fire few audio tracks as well so I have a second internal drive purely for that. I try to keep all my sample libraries on one external Firewire 400 drive - mainly so I can take it with me to other studios. Problem is if I have a typical rock drum track coming from BFD and I want to have an Ivory piano part in the same tune this drive starts to struggle. For this reason I put my Ivory samples on my internal system drive. It does work well doing this but idealy it would live on another external drive but I don't have a spare - but I will have soon - for safety's sake. As for drives, I've always had good performance from Segate. The 7200 RPM, 8MB cache ones are fine. I never use bigger than 250 GB because it's more useful to have multiple smaller drives than less bigger ones. Both external firewire and internal SATA drives are the same devices. You'll get better performance from them on the internal SATA bus than external FW. That's about it... Kind regards ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Paul Najar Jaminajar Music Production www.jaminajar.com

--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, "tvlogic" <aps@...> wrote: > > this past week in NYC, we had a logic users group meeting, and i was speaking with a gent > who told me that he gets better performance storing his samples (exs, kontact, stylus, etc) > on his main drive and then he tracks audio to an external FW drive... > > my present set up is: > dual g5 (MH aduio interface) > 1-main internal drive > 1-additional internal drive > 3-external fire wire drives > USB an FW disk are very good for backup The dream system is : - one partition for system and Apps - one partition for MAC OS X VM - one raid 1 or 5 of Sata disks for audio streaming - one raid 0 of Sata disks for samples - a backup of your samples lib on a FW or a removable SATA disk - a clone of you system on a FW or USB disk Best Cyril

On Nov 4, 2006, at 4:20 PM, tvlogic wrote: > this past week in NYC, we had a logic users group meeting, and i > was speaking with a gent > who told me that he gets better performance storing his samples > (exs, kontact, stylus, etc) > on his main drive and then he tracks audio to an external FW drive... > > my present set up is: > dual g5 (MH aduio interface) > 1-main internal drive > 1-additional internal drive > 3-external fire wire drives > > i also have an additional pci card which gives me an additional 2 > usb & 2 FW ports... > > where is the best place to store samples and recording audio? is it > best like the example > this gent uses with his macbook pro? i've always used external FW > drives for samples and > the 2nd internal drive to track audio... > > any advice would be grateful-- as well as advice on a solid FW > drive to add... i have 2 > mercury elite drives getting ready to go south-- and the one glyph > drive continues to > perform really well... > > anyone? > > peace > tv > I cannot tell you what to do, but I can share my set up. I have two internal 750G drives in the following partitions: Drive 1: P1 Working System P2 Test Sysem P3 Backup (hopefully for future use with 'time machine' Drive 2: P1 Samples P2 Plugins P3 Audio Now depending on the project will change how I work. The internal drives seem to perform better than external, however if I am relying on audio AND samples a lot, it's going to put a big load on the machine because it's getting everything from one drive. So I often use an external FW for audio since it's unlikely I will run out of track count and then the samples/Plugins can stream from a separate drive. A lot of times though I am just using one or the other. if I could I would have 3 internal drives, but my computer only has 2 bays. but more ultimately I would like a separate 3rd internal drive for Audio. i think what you are doing is fine, it's more so an issue of separate drives for samples and audio than it is for which one uses which. If you have been having good luck with Glyph drives, then i would stick with them. Personally I find they cost more just so they can put fancy designs on them. But they work fine in my experience.