Hi everyone, I have quite powerfull, custom built, computer to operate the Logic, version 5.5.1. : Intel P4 3.2GHz, Intel board, 2 - 250GB hardrives and until now I had 1Gb of RAM. Because my hardrive was sometimes spinning too much when I was working on audio files or even editing MIDI sequences, I decided to increase my RAM from 1GB to 2GB. After the installation, the system properties showed appropriately that I have now 1.99GB of RAM. Then, I was editing some audio files and when I attempt to merge two or three audio files into the so called "merged" file it gives me an error message (a little window) with the following info: "Memory full", error -108. Well, when I remove 1GB RAM from my computer it works normally again. It doesn't matter whether I remove the original 1GB RAM or the one I just bought. For some reason the Logic doesn't want to recognize the new size of RAM. I also uninstalled and re-installed the Logic from my computer, hoping it will re-configure itselves according to the new size of RAM but without any success. I also reset the "Virtual memory" in comp. properties, but nothing helped to solve the problem. I would greatly appretiate any response to my message. Danny Posadka, Calgary, Canada

--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, "Danny Posadka" wrote: > >Hi everyone, >I have quite powerfull, custom built, computer to operate the Logic, >version 5.5.1. : Intel P4 3.2GHz, Intel board, 2 - 250GB hardrives >and until now I had 1Gb of RAM. Because my hardrive was sometimes >spinning too much when I was working on audio files or even editing >MIDI sequences, I decided to increase my RAM from 1GB to 2GB. There are other methods to stop the hard drive from working like this. Set the Min/Max virtual memory to equal amounts. This will create a permanent fixed size swapfile in the root directory of the system drive. Even though most poo-poo this idea I find it makes for a smoother running machine. Try 512Meg or 1Gig, just make sure they're equal. On to your problem. >After the installation, the system properties showed appropriately >that I have now 1.99GB of RAM. >Then, I was editing some audio files and when I attempt to merge two >or three audio files into the so called "merged" file it gives me an >error message (a little window) with the following info: "Memory >full", error -108. Yep, Logic PC is several years old now and the code does not handle over 1Gig of memory very well. There are workarounds. In your Windows directory is a text file named: System.ini add these lines to the end, save and reboot the PC. [VCACHE] MinFileCache�920 MaxFileCache�920 This alone may help with "Memory Full" error. The second fix is more drastic, check here for some info: (word wrap is placing the ml, of "html" on a second line in the link below, type it in if you don't see the article.) http://community.sonikmatter.com/forums/lofiversion/index.php/t8032.ht ml Last... using the fixed swap file and adding the VCACHE entry in the system.ini will prevent a lot of extra hard drive work. If you have go back to 1GB memory those two adjustments should help. You can also add this line in the system.ini file: ConservativeSwapfileUsage=1 This may help if you're doing small or medium projects. Good luck, let us know how it works for you. Howard

Hi Howard, Thank you very much for your reply. Normally, I don't fool around with my computer and therefore I am not exactly sure how to apply your recommendations safely. Please if you can give me more detailed info I will appreciate it. I looked into my Windows files but couldn't find the System.ini text file. Is it in the Windows? Please lead me to where it is and how to do it. What is the symbol between the word cache and the number 920? In your answer it shows as thick black line. Here, when I copied these three lines from your reply, it shows as square. [VCACHE] MinFileCache�920 MaxFileCache�920 Regarding the Min/Max Virtual memory I don't know where to change it either. In My computer Properties/Advanced/Performance/Settings/Advanced/Virtual Memory/Change, I don't see Minimum/Maximum, only Maximum. Is this the place where to change it? I would greatly appreciate your next reply. Thanks, Danny.

--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, "Danny Posadka" wrote: > >Hi Howard, >Thank you very much for your reply. Normally, I don't fool around >with my computer and therefore I am not exactly sure how to apply >your recommendations safely. Please if you can give me more detailed >info I will appreciate it. No problem, see below. >I looked into my Windows files but couldn't find the System.ini text >file. Is it in the Windows? Please lead me to where it is and how to >do it. It's in the Windows directory: Do this first. Go to "control panel" and then open "Folder Options". Under the "View" tab scroll down a short way and uncheck "Hide extensions for known file types". If it's already unchecked move on to the next part. This will lett you see the .ini part of the file. Next open Notepad. Navigate to the Windows directory on your system drive (C:) tell notepad to show ALL files, not just text documents. Find system.ini and open it, paste the lines below to the end and save it. [VCACHE] MinFileCache�920 MaxFileCache�920 Reboot. What is the symbol between the word cache and the number 920? In your answer it shows as thick black line. A mistake somewhere, either in my paste or Yahoo's font interpretation. >Regarding the Min/Max Virtual memory I don't know where to change it >either. >My ComputerProperties/Advanced/Performance/Settings/Advanced/Virtual >Memory/Change, I don't see Minimum/Maximum, only Maximum. Is this >the place where to change it? Yes, select custom setting: Under initial size select 512 Under Maximum size...also 512 Note: This still may not help your problem as Logic is old, and only understands 1Gig of RAM. If nothing else the above will help your computer run more efficiently for most things. Howard p.s. the drastic fix is to modify the bootini file so that the computer only recognizes the first gig of RAM at startup. You can set it so a menu is presented at startup, you can then select a 1Gig or 2gig boot option. That was on the site link I posted.

Hi Howard, Thank you again for your excellent help. I did everything according to your suggestions and "my computer still works" !!! I also limited the max. memory to 1024 in the BOOT.INI with the second 1GB RAM in the computer. The funny thing I am observing: After all these changes, with only 1GB RAM installed, the spinning was the same as before. After I re-installed the second 1GB RAM although with a limited max. memory to 1024, the hardrive was spinning significantly less. I can't understand this since the computer sees only 1GB RAM. I would like to ask you to somehow find what symbol it is between the Cache and 920. In the Notepad it was showing again as square and all the other lines have the "equal" symbol =. I might be wrong but I think there should be = instead of square. If you will have the way to verify it I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you very much. danny Posadka, Calgary, Canada.

Hi Howard, This is another message just after I posted the previous one. Everything seemed to be working fine for about 15 minutes and then when I was trying to do things which previously made the hardrive to spin, the computer crashed. I couldn't read everything on the blue screen but it was something about conflict of memory with BIOS. I turned the computer off manually and restarted with only 1GB RAM and for safety reason removed all the changes. Well, if there is anything I am missing please let me know but I would probably continue to work with the spinning hardrive rather than being scarred from what can happen next. Thank you very much. Danny

--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, "Danny Posadka" <forums@...> wrote: > > Message posted by Danny Posadka <posadka@...>: > > Hi Howard, > >This is another message just after I posted the previous one. Everything seemed to be working fine for about 15 minutes and then when I was trying to do things which previously made the hardrive to spin, the computer crashed. I couldn't read everything on the blue screen but it was something about conflict of memory with BIOS. This is when you were working with Logic? If so it's jusy not going to be compatible with more than 1Gig of RAM. I'm afraid there's not much that can be done at this point. The changes (if done correctly) probably didn't cause the crash, just Logic trying to allocate RAM in a way in which it wasn't designed for at the time. Sonar or Cubase is the way to go if you're staying with the PC platform. Howard