Can I upgrade from 4.7 to 5.5 or do I need an upgrade in between.

Joey Torres wrote: > Can I upgrade from 4.7 to 5.5 or do I need an upgrade in between. Version 5 is an entirely new version, so you should be able to install 5.5.1 straight away, as long as your dongle is the proper one. Emagic changed the dongle when version 5 was introduced. Regards Sascha

--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, "Joey Torres" <josetorres_jr@...> wrote: > > Can I upgrade from 4.7 to 5.5 or do I need an upgrade in between. Apple no longer offer any upgrades from Versions of logic older than 5. The upgrades available are only to Logic 7. Logic 5 was replaced by Logic 6 over three years ago, and Apple stopped selling windows versions of logic around 4 years ago. kind regards Mark Cahill

markdvc2002 wrote: > Apple no longer offer any upgrades from Versions of logic older than 5. > The upgrades > available are only to Logic 7. Logic 5 was replaced by Logic 6 over three > years ago, > and Apple > stopped selling windows versions of logic around 4 years ago. Oh well, sure - I sort of missed the "upgrade" issue. But you can still get 5.5.1/PC compatible dongles on eBay and recently I've seen a left-over PC-package in a shop as well, but it's already been pre-sold. No idea whether shops (in case they do have such a package) would actually let you upgrade or rather charge the full price. Guess the latter is much more likely since the update to LogicPro is rather affordable once you got version 5. - Sascha

markdvc2002 wrote: >> Apple no longer offer any upgrades from Versions of logic older than 5. >> The upgrades >> available are only to Logic 7. Logic 5 was replaced by Logic 6 over three >> years ago, >> and Apple >> stopped selling windows versions of logic around 4 years ago. >Oh well, sure - I sort of missed the "upgrade" issue. >But you can still get 5.5.1/PC compatible dongles on eBay and recently I've >seen a left-over PC-package in a shop as well, but it's already been >pre-sold. No idea whether shops (in case they do have such a package) would > actually let you upgrade or rather charge the full price. Guess the latter >is much more likely since the update to LogicPro is rather affordable once > you got version 5. - Sascha I have the 5.5 upgrade but I don't know if it will work with the 4.7 version.

Joey Torres wrote: > > > markdvc2002 wrote: > >> Apple no longer offer any upgrades from Versions of logic older than 5. > >> The upgrades > >> available are only to Logic 7. Logic 5 was replaced by Logic 6 over three > >> years ago, > >> and Apple > >> stopped selling windows versions of logic around 4 years ago. > > >Oh well, sure - I sort of missed the "upgrade" issue. > >But you can still get 5.5.1/PC compatible dongles on eBay and recently I've > >seen a left-over PC-package in a shop as well, but it's already been > >pre-sold. No idea whether shops (in case they do have such a package) would > > actually let you upgrade or rather charge the full price. Guess the latter > >is much more likely since the update to LogicPro is rather affordable once > > you got version 5. > > - Sascha > > I have the 5.5 upgrade but I don't know if it will work with the 4.7 version. I think you need the version 5 upgrade first, which is no longer available from retailers. You had to send in the old dongle. Probably you need to buy the full version 5 which you can often get on ebay (but make sure it has the proper dongle). You should then be able to update to your 5.5 -- Pete Thomas www.petethomas.co.uk Logic Tutorials, Hints, Tips, free Icons, Environments EXS Instruments (donationware)

Pete Thomas <logic@petethomas.co.uk> wrote: > I think you need the version 5 upgrade first, which is no longer > available from retailers. You had to send in the old dongle. Probably > you need to buy the full version 5 which you can often get on ebay (but > make sure it has the proper dongle). You should then be able to update > to your 5.5 Incidentally, has anyone had the experience of updating from 5 to 7 and then using the updated dongle with their Logic 5 installation? I ask because I want to do just that, but Apple is not very supportive in providing feedback as to whether the newly updated dongle will activate the instruments in the Logic 5 installation. It makes sense that it would, but I'm just trying to be sure before I take the plunge. I do intend to migrate to MAC, but I would still want to maintain the dual installations.

Dandi Wayne wrote: > Incidentally, has anyone had the experience of updating from 5 to 7 and > then using the updated dongle with their Logic 5 installation? I ask > because I want to do just that, but Apple is not very supportive in > providing feedback as to whether the newly updated dongle will activate > the instruments in the Logic 5 installation. It makes sense that it > would, but I'm just trying to be sure before I take the plunge. I do > intend to migrate to MAC, but I would still want to maintain the dual > installations. I recently updated my dongle, but I already had all the instruments activated before, so I can't tell. But my guess would be that they won't update any of the dongle's Windows functionality, so it'll just work like before. Regards Sascha

>> I think you need the version 5 upgrade first, which is no longer >> available from retailers. You had to send in the old dongle. Probably >> you need to buy the full version 5 which you can often get on ebay >> (but make sure it has the proper dongle). You should then be able to update >> to your 5.5 > > Incidentally, has anyone had the experience of updating from 5 to 7 and > then using the updated dongle with their Logic 5 installation? I ask > because I want to do just that, but Apple is not very supportive in > providing feedback as to whether the newly updated dongle will activate > the instruments in the Logic 5 installation. It makes sense that it > would, but I'm just trying to be sure before I take the plunge. I do > intend to migrate to MAC, but I would still want to maintain the dual > installations. Hey Dandi. I have just updated from [LAW] 5.5.1 to OSX Mac Pro 7.2 with the same XS key with no problem whatsoever. However, I will say this - Back at the time when Logic 6 was released, I purchased that upgrade even though it did not work with Windows. The reason for that is because someone on the LUG discovered that if you purchased Logic 6 and you loaded it onto a Mac and updated your XS key on that same Mac, you could use the key in WinXP and it would unlock the EXS24, the EVP 88, the B3, the Clavi, ES1, ES2 etc. which it did on my pc. It did not give you access to Spacedesigner and a couple of other things that I cannot remember right now. So my point is, I think that what happened for me is that because I had updated it to Logic 6 on a mac, maybe that's the reason I had no problems updating to 7.2. I hope some of this helps. Best of luck, Danny B.

Danilo Bridgens <dumisani@socal.rr.com> wrote: > I have just updated from [LAW] 5.5.1 to OSX Mac Pro 7.2 with the same > XS key with no problem whatsoever. Hey thanks Danny, that is helpful. It stands to reason that if the Logic 6 update (on MAC) had the effect of activating those instruments on you pc installation, the same would likely be true with the Logic 7 update. It's worth taking the chance for $299. Thanks, Dandi

> Danilo Bridgens <dumisani@socal.rr.com> wrote: > > I have just updated from [LAW] 5.5.1 to OSX Mac Pro 7.2 with the same > > XS key with no problem whatsoever. > Dandi Wayne <dandi.wayne@gmail.com> wrote: > Hey thanks Danny, that is helpful. It stands to reason that if the >Logic 6 update (on MAC) had the effect of activating those instruments >on you pc installation, the same would likely be true with the Logic 7 >update. >It's worth taking the chance for $299. Actually, it doesn't stand to reason. AFAIK, updating directly from logic 5 to logic pro 7 will NOT allow you to use those instruments in Logic 5 Which became part of logic pro. As Danilo mentioned in his mail, he had already added Logic 6 which did give you this windows authorisation. Be careful, you may be dissapointed. regards Mark Cahill

Mark Cahill <mark@logic-users.org> wrote: > Actually, it doesn't stand to reason. AFAIK, updating directly from logic 5 > to logic pro 7 will NOT allow you to use those instruments in Logic 5 Which > became part of logic pro. As Danilo mentioned in his mail, he had already > added Logic 6 which did give you this windows authorisation. Sorry, I meant to say I just want to activate those that already exist in Logic 5--those of EXS24, EVoc, ES1, and ES2. I agree....I wouldn't expect instruments that were newly released with Logic 6 and Logic 7 to be available in Logic 5. Thanks again....

Dandi Wayne <dandi.wayne@gmail.com> wrote: > Sorry, I meant to say I just want to activate those >that already exist in Logic 5--those of EXS24, EVoc, >ES1, and ES2. I agree....I wouldn't expect instruments >that were newly released with Logic 6 and Logic 7 to >be available in Logic 5. Thanks again.... Those are the ones I was referring to. Just to spell it out - A user of LAW was able to buy Logic Pro 6, get it autohorised on his XSkey, and use these plugins in LAWP 5.5.1: ES1, ES2, Evoc, EVP 88, EVB 3, EXS 24, EVD 6 Obviously, the plugins that came after Logic 5.x, notably Space Designer in Logic 6, and Sculpture and Ultrabeat in Logic Pro 7, would not work with 5 anyway. What I am saying is, if you have Logic 5 Windows and buy the Logic pro 7 upgrade, it will NOT give you authorisations of the Logic 5 instruments I listed. Logic Pro 6 did this, Logic Pro 7 does not. Hope that is clear kind regards Mark Cahill

There was a radical change in the programming of the Key from Version 5 to 6 (blue key) and some additions to Logic 7 (for Spacedesigner, Sculpture, Ultrabeat and Guitaramp a.s.o.) which weren´t available before, if I remember right. regards

Mark Cahill <mark@logic-users.org> wrote: > What I am saying is, if you have Logic 5 Windows and buy the > Logic pro 7 upgrade, it will NOT give you authorisations of the > Logic 5 instruments I listed. > Logic Pro 6 did this, Logic Pro 7 does not. > > Hope that is clear Wow, that truly is disappointing. Hey Mark, thanks for spelling it out for me. I'll know what to expect. Looks like time for the migration anyway....

Danilo Bridgens <dumisani@socal.rr.com> wrote: > Hey Dandi. > I have just updated from [LAW] 5.5.1 to OSX Mac Pro 7.2 with the same > XS key with no problem whatsoever. > However, I will say this - Back at the time when Logic 6 was released, > I purchased that upgrade > even though it did not work with Windows. > The reason for that is because someone on the LUG discovered that if > you purchased Logic 6 and you > loaded it onto a Mac and updated your XS key on that same Mac, you > could use the key in WinXP and it would > unlock the EXS24, the EVP 88, the B3, the Clavi, ES1, ES2 etc. which it > did on my pc. > It did not give you access to Spacedesigner and a couple of other > things that I cannot remember right now. Danny, I'm wondering about the distinction between something called the 5 to 6 upgrade (includes dongle) and the straight purchase of Logic Pro 6. Do you think I would get the same result that you got with either of these products? Incidentally, one commentor said that prior to Logic Pro 7, there was no such thing as Logic Pro 6, as any version prior to 7 was to be known only as Silver, Gold, or Platinum. I don't believe that's correct, however. I believe I've seen Logic 6 Platinum as well as Logic Pro 6. My hope is that either of these will address my needs. An acquaintance is selling her Logic Pro 6, and I'm wondering if this would do it for me. I'm very appreciative of all prior advice and any you might have further. Thanks, Dandi