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From: "spuzroy" <b.mccully@comcast.net>
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2006 at 6:59:57 PM
Subject: [LUG] How do you set up an amt8 to accept [beat clock in] on a specific MIDI port?
Message #219527
I'm attempting to use 'Unitor-8 Control' on sys9.1, as OSX version crashes. Can't seem to get the amt-8 to recognize beat clock. Does it actually work? Please advise, thanks. Brian
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From: Zsolt Szabó <Zsolt.Szabo@gmx.net>
Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2006 at 2:41:22 AM
Subject: Re: [LUG] How do you set up an amt8 to accept [beat clock in] on a specific MIDI port?
Message #219542
This is a reply to #219527.
> I'm attempting to use 'Unitor-8 Control' on sys9.1, as OSX version > crashes. > Can't seem to get the amt-8 to recognize beat clock. > Does it actually work? Please advise, thanks. > > Brian Hello Brian, have yo checked if system realtime messages are enabled in the Unitor control panel on the ports? On my PC I use the SoundDiver for this but there is/was available a special Unitor version from Emagic for setting up the hardware. Regards, Zsolt
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From: "spuzroy" <b.mccully@comcast.net>
Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2006 at 12:56:58 PM
Subject: [LUG] Re: How do you set up an amt8 to accept [beat clock in] on a specific MIDI port?
Message #219553
This is a reply to #219542.
> > I'm attempting to use 'Unitor-8 Control' on sys9.1, as OSX > > version crashes. Can't seem to get the amt-8 to recognize > > beat clock. Does it actually work? Please advise, thanks. --- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, Zsolt Szabó <Zsolt.Szabo@...> wrote: > Hello Brian, > have yo checked if system realtime messages are enabled in the > Unitor control panel on the ports? On my PC I use the SoundDiver > for this but there is/was available a special Unitor version > from Emagic for setting up the hardware. Hello Zsolt, Thanks for your reply. I have (separately, only one port at a time) checked and unchecked all of the filters on two separate ports that I have connected - port 1 on the first amt8 (to see if port 1 was the only port that works), and at a different time port 8 on the second amt8 (as a random attempt). The 'Unitor 8 Control' software (soundiver derivative) sees the interfaces ok. I open the MIDI monitor window in the Unitor 8 Control software (v3.04 on OS9.2) and it displays incoming notes, patch changes and sys-ex ok from the keyboard (for which the software checkbox filters toggle accordingly - i.e. will filter when enabled), but still no active sensing messages (when the Triton keyboard generates in external sync mode) or real time (beat clock) messages (Triton generating in internal sync mode) are seen - nada. Other MIDI interfaces see these active sensing and beat clock messages just fine. I guess I'm just going to have to re-wire my MIDI setup to accomodate this problem - ugh. I have tossed away the system preferences and I have not found a 'reset' function for the amt8's - other than power on/off - to try to possibly 'wake them up'. Any additional suggestions are welcome. thanks -Brian
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From: Zsolt Szabó <Zsolt.Szabo@gmx.net>
Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2006 at 6:43:35 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Re: How do you set up an amt8 to accept [beat clock in] on a specific MIDI port?
Message #219561
This is a reply to #219553.
> > I'm attempting to use 'Unitor-8 Control' on sys9.1, as OSX > > version crashes. Can't seem to get the amt-8 to recognize > > beat clock. Does it actually work? Please advise, thanks. --- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, Zsolt Szabó <Zsolt.Szabo@...> wrote: > Hello Brian, > have yo checked if system realtime messages are enabled in the > Unitor control panel on the ports? On my PC I use the SoundDiver > for this but there is/was available a special Unitor version > from Emagic for setting up the hardware. >>>Hello Zsolt, >>>Thanks for your reply. I have (separately, only one port at a >>>time) checked and unchecked all of the filters on two separate >>>ports that I have connected - port 1 on the first amt8 (to see >>>if port 1 was the only port that works), and at a different >>>time port 8 on the second amt8 (as a random attempt). >>>The 'Unitor 8 Control' software (soundiver derivative) sees the >>>interfaces ok. I open the MIDI monitor window in the Unitor 8 >>>Control software (v3.04 on OS9.2) and it displays incoming notes, >>>patch changes and sys-ex ok from the keyboard (for which the >>>software checkbox filters toggle accordingly - i.e. will filter >>>when enabled), but still no active sensing messages (when the >>>Triton keyboard generates in external sync mode) or real time >>>(beat clock) messages (Triton generating in internal sync mode) >>>are seen - nada. >>>Other MIDI interfaces see these active sensing and beat clock >>>messages just fine. I guess I'm just going to have to re-wire my >>>MIDI setup to accomodate this problem - ugh. >>>I have tossed away the system preferences and I have not found >>>a 'reset' function for the amt8's - other than power on/off - to >>>try to possibly 'wake them up'. Any additional suggestions are >>>welcome. >>>thanks -Brian If that's the case Brian I think maybe the AMT went bad ... Mine does it OK on a PC, both active sensing and clock messages are received (and indicated via the LEDs also) properly. Could you try it on another system ? Regards, Zsolt
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From: "spuzroy" <b.mccully@comcast.net>
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 at 10:12:16 PM
Subject: [LUG] Re: How do you set up an amt8 to accept [beat clock in] on a specific MIDI port?
Message #219616
This is a reply to #219561.
> > > I'm attempting to use 'Unitor-8 Control' on sys9.1, as OSX > > > version crashes. Can't seem to get the amt-8 to recognize > > > beat clock. Does it actually work? Please advise, thanks. <snip> --- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, Zsolt Szabó <Zsolt.Szabo@...> wrote: > If that's the case Brian I think maybe the AMT went bad ... > Mine does it OK on a PC, both active sensing and clock messages > are received (and indicated via the LEDs also) properly. > Could you try it on another system ? Hello Zsolt, I had some success finally, but I am not sure why. I sent the amt8 beat clock, from a K2500 and all of a sudden the interface responded - not using the Unitor Control application (to monito input) but rather within the OSX MIDI Monitor. I then sent the Triton clock again to the interface - and it (finally) responded - somewhat. The interface will see beat clock from another Mac sequencer, or from a synth sequencer (either the K2500 or the Triton sequencers) but not beat clock which is (constantly) generated from either a Korg N5 or the Korg Triton keyboard(s). Beat clock is beat clock (?) but maybe the amt8 needed (to see) the Start and Stop messages(?) Yet a MOTU interface or MIDIMan interface will see and sync to either - the keyboard beat clock (not only from the Keyboard sequencer but from its arpeggiator - which is my original intention as much of my gear responds to beat clock) or the sequencer beat clock. I ran the Unitor Control application's internal MIDI test routine and the interface passed ok. Then all of a sudden - the Unitor control software will no longer recognised the interface - after it started recognizing beat clock. But CoreMIDI always does recognise it. Sigh... All I have to say at this point (for the world at large) is: I have owned two Opcode Studio 4's, one Opcode Studio 5, one MIDIMAN 8x8 and 2 Emagic AMT8's - all are no longer manufactured and only the MIDIMAN is supported. The amt8's replaced the Opcode boxes. I also have currently have two MOTU Express 4x6's (one 110V powered, one USB powered - but no model differentiation) which should -never- be used side by side or with a hub (!?!) (i.e. CoreMIDI constantly swaps them or 'ghosts' them if they are both attached to one computer). The MIDIMan 8x8 constantly needs a reset. (procedure: unplug -all- 16 MIDI cables, usb cable, power cable, turn off power, wait 10 seconds, reverse procedure...) Go to the Steinberg site and read the thread(s) on the MIDI-Ex problems...uh no longer manufactured? The only decent interface of the bunch that I've had great luck with (besides the original little serial 1x1, 2x2, or 1x4 MiniMacMIDIMans) is the Studio5. Grin and bear it. Thanks again -Brian
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