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From: Ben Lammerts <ben3@www2.hku.nl>
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2006 at 5:45:12 PM
Subject: 2 instruments on 1 staff?
Message #219526
I'm writing for a string quartet using Logic for composing and scoring. In case of the violin, I have a track with the legato samples on EXS instrument 1, and another track with the pizzicato samples on EXS instrument 2. Of course only ONE player has to play these, so I want to get these different tracks displayed in my score on ONE staff. How can I do this? I'm using Logic Pro 7.4 on a MacBook 2.0Ghz. Thanks! Ben
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From: Bill Canty <Bill@Canty.com>
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2006 at 10:09:43 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] 2 instruments on 1 staff?
Message #219536
This is a reply to #219526.
Ben Lammerts wrote: > Message posted by Ben Lammerts <ben3@www2.hku.nl>: > > I'm writing for a string quartet using Logic for composing and scoring. In > case of the violin, I have a track with the legato samples on EXS instrument > 1, and another track with the pizzicato samples on EXS instrument 2. Of > course only ONE player has to play these, so I want to get these different > tracks displayed in my score on ONE staff. > > How can I do this? Ben, You could use a score style that ignores the MIDI channel of each note, put the different articulations on different MIDI channels, then make your track instrument a channel splitter that sends the various articulations off to their appropriate EXS24 instruments. Cheers, Bill
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From: Sean McCoy <osr@jeffnet.org>
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2006 at 11:53:07 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] 2 instruments on 1 staff?
Message #219540
This is a reply to #219536.
> > Message posted by Ben Lammerts > <<mailto:ben3%40www2.hku.nl>ben3@www2.hku.nl>: > > > > I'm writing for a string quartet using Logic for composing and scoring. In > > case of the violin, I have a track with the legato samples on EXS > instrument > > 1, and another track with the pizzicato samples on EXS instrument 2. Of > > course only ONE player has to play these, so I want to get these different > > tracks displayed in my score on ONE staff. > > > > How can I do this? With the multiple tracks and/or keyswitching necessary to take advantage of all these libraries' articulations, it's usually best to copy all the regions from a particular orchestral part's tracks onto a single, continuous muted track to be used for score purposes only. You can then delete any of the unwanted keyswitch or other unwanted MIDI notes, as well as doing the radical quantization often required to get the parts to look right, without altering your original performances.
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From: Pete Thomas <logic@petethomas.co.uk>
Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2006 at 11:40:33 AM
Subject: [LUG] Re: 2 instruments on 1 staff?
Message #219545
This is a reply to #219526.
Ben Lammerts wrote: > Message posted by Ben Lammerts <ben3@www2.hku.nl>: > > I'm writing for a string quartet using Logic for composing and scoring. In > case of the violin, I have a track with the legato samples on EXS instrument > 1, and another track with the pizzicato samples on EXS instrument 2. Of > course only ONE player has to play these, so I want to get these different > tracks displayed in my score on ONE staff. > > How can I do this? My preference for this is to make 1 EXS instrument that combines arco and pizzicato, and use the modwheel to switch between pizz and arco (You can use keyswitches, but then you have to faf around to hide them in the score) E.G. Opene the pizzicato instrument editor, copy all zones and groups, paste into the arco instrument and save with a new name, e.g. vlns_arco_pizz_mod.exs. Alternatively you can use MIDI channel of note event to select between pizz and arco groups. More info on how to do it here: http://www.petethomas.co.uk/logic-exs24.html -- Pete Thomas www.petethomas.co.uk Logic Tutorials, Hints, Tips, free Icons, Environments EXS Instruments (donationware) ***Please support my trek in the Andes in aid of APEC*** ***info & sponsorship: http://www.justgiving.com/petethomas***
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From: Ben Lammerts <ben3@www2.hku.nl>
Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2006 at 3:20:15 PM
Subject: Re: 2 instruments on 1 staff?
Message #219549
This is a reply to #219545.
Thanks very much to you all for your reactions! I made something in the Environment with 1 MIDI instrument (with the Cello part) going to a Cable Switch going to Instrument 1 (arco) and Inst 2 (pizz). I made the Cable Switch to react on CC nr. 1, and then made an automation track for this controller on the MIDI inst. This works, but it's still quite a bit of work. Of course I now have a template I can use in other songs. Sean, I used to do it the way you describe it, but this method gives me not enough flexibility to switch from score back to composing, and vice versa. Pete, I guess your way of making 1 instrument with all the articulations requires some work, but after that it's the easiest to handle. I think I'm gonna use this. Thanks again! Ben
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