Maybe I'm naive, but I still find it hard to believe that there is a significantly large group of people out there _using_ (not just having possession of a pile of software) pirated software on a large scale in their music production endeavors (for example, relying day in and day out on a pirated version of LAP as their main sequencer). I'm all for software engineers and companies doing what they need to do to protect the products that they work long and hard to produce, but I just wish they would take a little more care and put a little more thought toward the experiences of the end (legal) user. Withholding PDF versions of manuals seems extreme to me. Many other companies use the opportunity to provide PDF manuals to non-users as a way to convince them of the quality, power, and features of their product, in addition to providing an easy and efficient way of distributing manuals to paying customers. Emagic seems a bit paranoid in this regard. I guess the bottom line for me is this: software companies will _never_ be able to completely prevent piracy, so perhaps it is time that they realize this and ease up on the practice of pursuing measures of copy protection that result in aggravation, disappointment, inconvenience, and even product failures for their paying customers. Mike P.

AFAIK(not very far) Logic 4.0 Has not been cracked by anybody remotely reliable. They may crack it. So I throw in with EMagic on their marketing decision to not provide a PDF manual. STOP THE PRESSES! What is really needed is a good index. It's not as if the present manuals are indecipherable, it's that you cannot quickly find anything until you finally learn the jargon. A real index for a program so deep would compensate for that by anticipating the probability that, if you had MIDI timing problems, you might, perhaps naively, look under Timing or MIDI timing. Predictably, neither of these stabs will lead you anywhere in the present manual. There will be no cross reference to Unitor or any of the myriad things that might give you a timing delay. Still, some clue is probably in the manual. You simply need to rifle through it for 45-145 minutes to remember it's structure and there it is:CTRL-ALT-BENDOVER. A professional index at least says see this or that. The architypical problem is for new users to want to change the audio record length. What would you look under? Record length? Nothing. Recording? Options? A bunch of useful stuff about autodrop, cycle mode, replace mode, etc. but not what you really need to know. I have had to look it up before and I still haven't the slightest idea where it is in the manual. The path was slightly changed in WAP4 and I can find it more easily now by instinct but c'mon...... On computers, indexing is so easy. All you need is someone with a sympathetic mindset and the ability to say you're going to have to add another x number of pages to your manual. And them pay them to do it. If you are going to release a big manual without a good cross-indexing, and I reiterate, this is the most important part of any complete reference, my advice to you, if I may echo Marcus' clipped phrase: "discussion on this topic is useless". We, your public will not like it.