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From: Jonathan Perl <jon.perl@verizon.net>
Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2006 at 7:17:13 PM
Subject: [LUG] Re: Tempo Change Without Moving midi
Message #218107
On Sep 1, 2006, at 2:32 AM, logic-users@yahoogroups.com wrote: >> I have a Logic session where the session tempo is set to 60bpm but >> the midi is playing back >> at 78 bpm. I can't edit my midi because it doesn't match the >> session so it doesn't lighn up to >> the grid. I need to be able to change the session tempo to 78bpm >> without having it change >> the midi. Is there a way to do this? I looked a little bit at the >> Beat mapper but that would >> require drawing connecting lines to creat lots of tempo changes >> and what I need is more >> exact then that. >> > Yes, select your MIDI Region(s), then go to Region > Lock SMPTE > position, then change > your tempo. The MIDI won't move. Hey David. Yes, but if he does it this way, it will be hard to exactly match the temp to fit the existing MIDI performance - a little drift is almost inevitable .... To avoid any drift, he should get un-shy about the Beatmapping (re-clocking) functions in Logic... If the material is tight to a click according to Logic's metronome, then he'll only have to do one or two connections at the start of the track and the tempo will align for the rest of the track. And if it does drift just a little later in the track, he can just make a few connection at those points in the track. My 2¢. Jonathan ________________________________________________________________________ ______________________________________________________________ Jonathan Perl • Associate Director, Sonic Arts Center at the City College of New York. sonic.arts.ccny.cuny.edu • Apple Certified Trainer for Logic Pro. Apple Authorized Training Center. www.macaudiotrainers.com • Get the ultimate Logic training DVD, Inside Logic Pro 7.1. www.digitalmediatraining.com/products/logicpro7/ ________________________________________________________________________ _______________________________________________________________
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From: Hans Jensen <searchdiver@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2006 at 12:24:42 AM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Re: Tempo Change Without Moving midi
Message #218111
This is a reply to #218107.
> On Sep 1, 2006, at 2:32 AM, logic-users@yahoogroups.com wrote: >>> I have a Logic session where the session tempo is set to 60bpm but >>> the midi is playing back >>> at 78 bpm. I can't edit my midi because it doesn't match the >>> session so it doesn't lighn up to >>> the grid. I need to be able to change the session tempo to 78bpm >>> without having it change >>> the midi. Is there a way to do this? I looked a little bit at the >>> Beat mapper but that would >>> require drawing connecting lines to creat lots of tempo changes >>> and what I need is more >>> exact then that. >>> >> Yes, select your MIDI Region(s), then go to Region > Lock SMPTE >> position, then change >> your tempo. The MIDI won't move. > > Hey David. Yes, but if he does it this way, it will be hard to > exactly match the temp to fit the existing MIDI performance - a > little drift is almost inevitable .... To avoid any drift, he should > get un-shy about the Beatmapping (re-clocking) functions in Logic... > If the material is tight to a click according to Logic's metronome, > then he'll only have to do one or two connections at the start of the > track and the tempo will align for the rest of the track. And if it > does drift just a little later in the track, he can just make a few > connection at those points in the track. > > My 2¢. > > Jonathan > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ______________________________________________________________ > Jonathan Perl > > • Associate Director, Sonic Arts Center at the City College of New > York. sonic.arts.ccny.cuny.edu > > • Apple Certified Trainer for Logic Pro. Apple Authorized Training > Center. www.macaudiotrainers.com > > • Get the ultimate Logic training DVD, Inside Logic Pro 7.1. > www.digitalmediatraining.com/products/logicpro7/ The combination of your suggestions is working for me. First locking the SMPTE position allowed me to set the session to the right tempo. I could then easily use Beatmapping to tighten things up as needed. Thanks to both of you for the help. Hans Jensen
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From: "mt100uk" <miketaylor100@mac.com>
Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2006 at 8:09:16 AM
Subject: [LUG] Re: Tempo Change Without Moving midi
Message #218124
This is a reply to #218111.
> > Hey David. Yes, but if he does it this way, it will be hard to > > exactly match the temp to fit the existing MIDI performance - a > > little drift is almost inevitable .... To avoid any drift, he should > > get un-shy about the Beatmapping (re-clocking) functions in Logic... > > If the material is tight to a click according to Logic's metronome, > > then he'll only have to do one or two connections at the start of the > > track and the tempo will align for the rest of the track. And if it > > does drift just a little later in the track, he can just make a few > > connection at those points in the track. > > > > My 2¢. > > > > Jonathan > > > > The combination of your suggestions is working for me. First locking the > SMPTE position allowed me to set the session to the right tempo. I could > then easily use Beatmapping to tighten things up as needed. > > Thanks to both of you for the help. > > Hans Jensen > Just a quick post script if you are relatively new to beat mapping. the key is not to over-do it. If you put to many 'nodes' in you will loose all groove in the track, try and do as little as possible or you will loose all of the feel of the piece. Hope this helps, Mike
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