I was just going through the loop browser and found that when I drag and drop a "midi" drum loop from the browser to an instrument track, the sounds are there but the reverb is missing... Where is this reverb located and how do I get it to the track, so it sounds the same as when I audition the loop ? Thanks Jacob.

On 2. Mär 2005, at 17:48, Jacob T. wrote: > I was just going through the loop browser and found that when I drag > and drop a "midi" > drum loop from the browser to an instrument track, the sounds are > there but the reverb is > missing... When you drop a green icon to a MIDI track you get a bunch of notes. (Some people told me to be a little more specific, so here it goes: it works only with the green icons of the Loop Browser, not with other green icons.) To continue - MIDI notes are represented by numbers for pitch, velocity and length. There is no possibility to have a reverb within the notes and you must add one with a plugin. But many loops insert channel setting automatically when you put them on a track. Look at those plugins, maybe there is already a reverb ad you just have to push the 'Mix' fader a little more. BTW - it can be an advantage that there is no reverb. Imagine you have different loops which have also different reverbs. That rarely sounds good and you might choose the same reverb for them anyway. Peter Ostry

"Jacob T." <bocaj006@...> wrote: >when I drag and drop a "midi" drum loop from >the browser to an instrument track, the sounds >are there but the reverb is missing... When some green AppleLoops are dropped onto an AudioInstrument track, not all the inserts are active. Some are bypassed. Or it could be that you are actually unwittingly previewing AppleLoops (from the browser) through a reverb (it uses the last AudioChannel in your environment). f-erenc szabo, smarty pants Z+E+R+O+B+E+A+T "NOW POWERED BY THE MIRACLE OF THE TRANSISTOR!" <http://home.goodmedia.com/~zerobeat>

--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, "f-erenc szabo" <zerobeat@g...> wrote: > "Jacob T." <bocaj006@h...> wrote: > >when I drag and drop a "midi" drum loop from > >the browser to an instrument track, the sounds > >are there but the reverb is missing... > > When some green AppleLoops are dropped onto an > AudioInstrument track, not all the inserts are active. > Some are bypassed. > > Or it could be that you are actually unwittingly previewing > AppleLoops (from the browser) through a reverb (it uses > the last AudioChannel in your environment). > > Thanks for responding guys ! That's exactly what I don't understand. The other plugs are automaticly inseted but the reverb is nowhere to be found. Not in the environment either ?? Not on any other channel...nowhere. Where is it......it sounds great and I want to use it ;-) Any other ideas ? J.

"f-erenc szabo" <zerobeat@g...> wrote: >> When some green AppleLoops are dropped onto an >> AudioInstrument track, not all the inserts are active. >> Some are bypassed. > >> Or it could be that you are actually unwittingly previewing >> AppleLoops (from the browser) through a reverb (it uses >> the last AudioChannel in your environment). "Jacob T." <bocaj006@...> wrote: >That's exactly what I don't understand. The other >plugs are automaticly inseted but the reverb is >nowhere to be found. Not in the environment either?? >Not on any other channel...nowhere. Tell us which AppleLoop it is in case I (or somebody else) has it and can test it. I have all the Apple Jampacks 1-4 and of course all the Garageband loops (everybody has those with the Logic7 install). f-erenc szabo, smarty pants Z+E+R+O+B+E+A+T "NOW POWERED BY THE MIRACLE OF THE TRANSISTOR!" <http://home.goodmedia.com/~zerobeat>

> > Tell us which AppleLoop it is in case I (or somebody > else) has it and can test it. > > I have all the Apple Jampacks 1-4 and of course all the > Garageband loops (everybody has those with the Logic7 > install). > It's the one(s) called Island Reggea Drums 01-03 (new tempo is 103). It would be great if you could, time permiting of course, try and drag it to an instrument track and see what you get. I think it's from JP 1 under Drum Kit/Urban/Grooving in the browser... It's not life and death, but it always bugs me if there's someting I can't work out ;-) J.

On 3. Mär 2005, at 12:06, Jacob T. wrote: >> Tell us which AppleLoop it is in case I (or somebody >> else) has it and can test it. >> >> I have all the Apple Jampacks 1-4 and of course all the >> Garageband loops (everybody has those with the Logic7 >> install). >> > > It's the one(s) called Island Reggea Drums 01-03 (new tempo is 103). > It would be great if > you could, time permiting of course, try and drag it to an instrument > track and see what > you get. I think it's from JP 1 under Drum Kit/Urban/Grooving in the > browser... Yep, know that one, just used it on sunday for a demo. Channel settings come without a reverb. Just insert a GoldVerb after the Channel EQ, default setting, pull the mix fader down to 10% - sound about the same like the prelistening. Peter Ostry

"Jacob T." <bocaj006@...> wrote: >It's the one(s) called Island Reggea Drums 01-03 (new tempo is 103). I can confirm that the audio version of these has a tiny bit of reverb in them, but the instrument version does not. And there isn't a Reverb insert that is bypassed. I'm wondering if this AppleLoop was created using a send/return method of adding reverb rather than an insert? The send/return attributes wouldn't be inside the metadata of the AppleLoop. f-erenc szabo, smarty pants Z+E+R+O+B+E+A+T "NOW POWERED BY THE MIRACLE OF THE TRANSISTOR!" <http://home.goodmedia.com/~zerobeat>

> I'm wondering if this AppleLoop was created using a send/return > method of adding reverb rather than an insert? The send/return > attributes wouldn't be inside the metadata of the AppleLoop. F-erenc, .....still a mystery to me ? Peter, Thanks for letting me re-discover GoldVerb ;-) It did the trick. J.