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From: GAmoore@...
Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 at 1:54:19 AM
Subject: RE: [LUG] Getting Hyper about Hyper (was Re: Annoyances with L7)
Message #178899
> > Well, "hyper" generally means "over" or "more than" and is sometimes > > used as a translation for the German "über."  So it does have a > > meaning--"hyper draw" is an "over-draw"-.... > and another person wrote : > In addition to what the literal definition is, I was wondering why they > keep this name, but it seems that the term 'hyper' is an energetic term.  > And it is the 'coolness' of the word 'hyper' that helps keep it around. > Regardless of the derivation of the prefix or the coolness of it .... 1. There are two different "hyper" editors in Logic - and it causes confusion. 2. Again, the name is meaningless in any real sense. One is a graphic representation of midi controller data, and the other a poor excuse for the drum editor that Logic never provided. In neither case is it drawing over, nor is a better editors since edits control data but not the notes themselves whereas you can edit both pitch, start, end, duration and velocity in the matrix editor with the appropriate tool. If Logic wants to appeal to 13 year old scifi nerds, why don't they work more on the functionality rather than the "hyper" and "ultra" nomenclature? Has there been a single new editor or greatly enhanced tool in Logic in the past 3 or 4 versions? Track automation was the only new thing which was really a re-write of the hyperedit to make it more accurate. It seems MIDI is more or less left as is for the past 7 years, instead of moving forward to be on the cutting edge.
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From: "Orren Merton" <orren@...>
Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 at 11:36:54 AM
Subject: [LUG] Getting Hyper about Hyper (was Re: Annoyances with L7)
Message #178929
This is a reply to #178899.
--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, GAmoore@a... wrote: > Has there been a single new editor or greatly enhanced tool in Logic in > the past 3 or 4 versions? Greatly enhanced tools/functionality: 1) Marquee Tool (didn't exist before L6) 2) New Loop Tool/Cursor (phenomenal ACID/GarageBand style looping new with L7) 3) Global Tracks (sure, the tracks are not "editors" themselves, but you can now create/ edit tempo, transposition values, beat map, and so on graphically on the Arrange, which was not possible before Logic 7). Probably more I'm not thinking of. Nobody is trying to suggest Logic 7 doesn't need improvement. But while it's useful to acknowledge its faults, simply diminishing Logic by saying "it needs better editors" or "it needs better MIDI" is too general to be of much specific use. Orren
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