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From: Remco Muntz <rmuntz@...>
Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2004 at 3:04:53 AM
Subject: Re: Annoyances with L7
Message #178801
>> 26. Can the color scheme please but a bit less dark and depressing. It's bad >> enough I have to work with this buggy 7.0 release all day ;-) > > I've gotta pipe in here and say that I actually LIKE the interface a > lot. I would hate to be the designer(s) of the interface and read > nothing but negative.. You can add a LOT of color by changing the > colors of sequences and regions. I like it too. Much bettter than the older versions. But I do understand the complain that it's all very dark, in a way that it's not easy to see everything well enough. Maybe they should a little bit more contrast or the option to change it. Anyway, when you compare the new mixer window with the old one, the EXS24 (which still looks the same) with Ultrabeat or Sculpture, the new version looks so much better. Things like the EXS24 look just clumsy and ugly. Remco
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From: "Sonny Keyes" <sonnykeyes@...>
Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2004 at 9:45:53 AM
Subject: Re: Annoyances with L7
Message #178831
This is a reply to #178801.
Remco Muntz <rmuntz@g...> wrote: > >> 26. Can the color scheme please but a bit less dark and depressing. It's bad > >> enough I have to work with this buggy 7.0 release all day ;-) > > > > I've gotta pipe in here and say that I actually LIKE the interface a > > lot. I would hate to be the designer(s) of the interface and read > > nothing but negative.. You can add a LOT of color by changing the > > colors of sequences and regions. > > I like it too. Much bettter than the older versions. You know, when a major magazine gets a design overhaul, there are always a slew of letters to the editor afterwards, half of them damning and half of them praising the new design. It's just a reminder that half the world are neophobes and half are neophiles. Everyone ask yourself, "which am I?" ;o) Sonny Keyes SKa Music Toronto www.skamusic.ca
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From: "timsonian" <timburns@...>
Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2004 at 12:13:20 PM
Subject: Re: Annoyances with L7
Message #178858
This is a reply to #178831.
--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, "Sonny Keyes" <sonnykeyes@s...> wrote: > > You know, when a major magazine gets a design overhaul, there are > always a slew of letters to the editor afterwards, half of them > damning and half of them praising the new design. It's just a > reminder that half the world are neophobes and half are neophiles. > Everyone ask yourself, "which am I?" ;o) Ah, if only it were that simple. But I'm not comfortable being called a "neophobe" just because I find smaller type harder to read than big type, and black-on-grey less legible than white on dark blue. Sure, much of graphic design is subjective just like music. But also, just like music, there are certain aesthetic rules which are not really a matter of opinion. Dissonance is dissonance, major is different than minor, and small type is tougher to read. I love new features as much - or more - than the next guy. But I don't love them just because they're new. If something ENHANCES my workflow, I like it. But if it IMPEDES my workflow, and makes basic functions more difficult or more time consuming, then it's a pain in the butt and a step backward. I'm sure the programmers at Apple/Emagic are smart folks. But that doesn't mean they don't make some bonehead mistakes now and again. As users, it's our job to let them know what we want and hope they listen. If you want to break users down into two camps, I'd suggest these - there are those who view computers and software as if it were a question of religion or politics. Criticism is seen as disloyalty, and they always respond with 'my software! Love it or leave it!'. Then there are those who see software as a product just like any other; and yes, perhaps the second camp are 'never satisfied'. If there's a feature they don't like, they complain. If enough of'em complain, sometimes a company actually listens... Ask yourself, which one are you?
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From: "Sonny Keyes" <sonnykeyes@...>
Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2004 at 3:54:33 PM
Subject: Re: Annoyances with L7
Message #178869
This is a reply to #178858.
--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, "timsonian" <timburns@p...> wrote: > > If you want to break users down into two camps, I'd suggest these - there are those who > view computers and software as if it were a question of religion or politics. Criticism is > seen as disloyalty, and they always respond with 'my software! Love it or leave it!'. Then > there are those who see software as a product just like any other; and yes, perhaps the > second camp are 'never satisfied'. If there's a feature they don't like, they complain. If > enough of'em complain, sometimes a company actually listens... > > Ask yourself, which one are you? Well said. I have to agree that the smaller type is a little more difficult to read, and the contrast between the type and the background could be greater, OTOH I don't find it impedes my workflow. The worst effect it has is on the screen captures in the manual, where dark grey boxes with darker grey type flummox all but the youngest eyes. My observation about neophobes and neophiles was meant to be humorously philosophical; we won't be able to influence the look of the interface until at least v.8.0, so we may as well carp about it in the most constructive possible manner! ;o) Sonny Keyes SKa Music Toronto www.skamusic.ca
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From: "John Pitcairn" <johnp@...>
Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2004 at 4:35:23 PM
Subject: Re: Annoyances with L7
Message #178872
This is a reply to #178869.
--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, "Sonny Keyes" <sonnykeyes@s...> wrote: > the contrast between the type and the > background could be greater System Preferences >> Universal Access >> Seeing >> Enhance Contrast John Pitcairn ------------------------------------------------------------- Logic Control emulation for generic midi controllers: LC Xmu demo: http://www.opuslocus.com/lcxmu/ -------------------------------------------------------------
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From: "Sonny Keyes" <sonnykeyes@...>
Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 at 12:26:15 PM
Subject: Re: Annoyances with L7 - I can see!
Message #178935
This is a reply to #178872.
"Sonny Keyes" <sonnykeyes@s...> wrote: > > the contrast between the type and the > > background could be greater "John Pitcairn" <johnp@r...> wrote: > > System Preferences >> Universal Access >> Seeing >> Enhance Contrast > > John Pitcairn Wow! Thanks John! Now if only they'd done that before capturing screen-shots for the manual... Sonny Keyes SKa Music Toronto www.skamusic.ca
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