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From: GAmoore@...
Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2004 at 1:07:42 AM
Subject: tap tempo
Message #178789
> I hope at least one feisty Montrealer will take a moment out from all the > 'ooh and ah' of the presentation to ask some tough questions about L7's > bugs, and when we can expect long overdue features (like full delay > compensation and multiple interface support) and old bugfixes (like > groups, tap tempo > Isn't 'tap tempo' a farce in reality? No one can tap with much precision. Just try making a click track and tap along with it, and you'll see you're all over the place. then take a song without a click track, and it will be really sloppy. If its audio, I use the set global tempo by locators/object size.
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From: "G.ROSS" <g.ross@...>
Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2004 at 2:11:47 AM
Subject: Re: [LUG] tap tempo
Message #178794
This is a reply to #178789.
<quotes repositioned and trimmed, footers removed by admin> >> I hope at least one feisty Montrealer will take a moment out from all the >> 'ooh and ah' of the presentation to ask some tough questions about L7's >> bugs, and when we can expect long overdue features (like full delay >> compensation and multiple interface support) and old bugfixes (like >> groups, tap tempo >> > > Isn't 'tap tempo' a farce in reality? No one can tap with much precision. > Just try making a click track and tap along with it, and you'll see you're all > over the place. then take a song without a click track, and it will be really > sloppy. If its audio, I use the set global tempo by locators/object size. I often record bands without a click and then use the reclock song function, this usually works pretty well. I'll record me tapping along in 1/4-notes with the song then I make a quantisation template from the kick mic. I use this to quantise 1st & 3rd beats wherever the drummer played them. I'll fix this quantise when I'm happy that it hasn't accidentally massed any bits up (if the drummer did some weird kicks :-). Then I make a quantise template from the snare mic for the 2 and 4 (again assuming the drummer's played in this style) and quantise my tap again. Check it and the Reclock song. I can usually get a pretty good result within an hour ... and that's amazing considering how long I used to spend setting up tempo changes for remixes in the 80s. To be honest I love this feature and think it works pretty well although I'm sure it could be improved. I use tap tempo to bring the computer in in time with a live band (usually use TouchTracks but now gravitating towards Ableton) but other than that I agree that the tap tempo function for live work is total pants. G
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