G-5 1.8 Dual 1.5 gig mem 360 gig HD 896HD MOTO 1604 VLZ Mackie Spectronics & Guitarrig crashed in Logic6. Upgraded to 7. Re installed Atmoshphere's, Guitarrig and RMX. Midi records fine for Atmosphere's and RMX. Guitarrig does not register. But more importantly now I can't seem to record ANY outside Audio ( guitar, Triton Pro, vocals) And even stranger, RMX grooves won't record either. The signal for audio registers on the meter but will not record. I know it's got to be something simple. I have been working at this for a few weeks now very part time and I have resorted to ask for Help! Any one? Please! Rich Diller Citrus Groove

On 12/1/04 6:35 PM, "ridil7" <ridil@...> wrote: > > G-5 1.8 Dual > 1.5 gig mem > 360 gig HD > 896HD MOTO > 1604 VLZ Mackie > > Spectronics & Guitarrig crashed in Logic6. Upgraded to 7. Re installed > Atmoshphere's, > Guitarrig and RMX. Midi records fine for Atmosphere's and RMX. Guitarrig does > not > register. But more importantly now I can't seem to record ANY outside Audio ( > guitar, > Triton Pro, vocals) And even stranger, RMX grooves won't record either. The > signal for > audio registers on the meter but will not record. I know it's got to be > something simple. I > have been working at this for a few weeks now very part time and I have > resorted to ask > for Help! Any one? Please! > > Rich Diller > Citrus Groove > > And I'll bet you just installed L7 over the L6 stuff. L7 worked like garbage for me, until I did a series of things... I hope it makes you Mac a stable as mine, which hasn't crashed in??? And FYI, I have a UAD-1, Powercore, and about 171 AU plugin components being run on my system, and some of them are betas.. Try this out... After attempting to figure out the new Logic 7's methods of using older settings file, I did this. WARNING:I NON LONGER AM USING LOGIC 6. IF YOU DO THIS, IT MIGHT NOT WORK PROPERLY! IT STILL WORKS FINE HERE THOUGH. 1) I moved my Logic 6 folder to the desktop 2) I deleted all Logic 6 prefs, including the setup assistants. ( Just put them on the desktop for now.) 3) Install Logic 7 4) Made a copy of my Logic 6 "Sampler Instruments" folder, and my "Plug-in Settings" folder, and placed them into my user / library / application support / Logic folder. Logic 7 will now see them. 5) Made sure all my plugins were updated to the Logic 7 compatible versions. 6) Booted Logic. It will take a while for it to check out the AU's. 7) Logic's setup assistant opened up (if not, open it after Logic 7 has booted up). Configured the settings to match my hardware and midi devices. 8) Saved my file as my Autoload. If you have special layers, import them into your new autoload now. Make sure the Autoload is saved in the "Song Templates" folder in your Logic folder you saved you plugin settings into. 9) If you have any special key commands, import them from you old prefs file. 10) Go through and change your Logic prefs, and Song prefs to the way you want them. Don¹t forget to resave your file, or your autoload won¹t have these new song prefs. After doing this, Logic 7 runs perfect. I have not had one crash, and everything works nicely. When I did my first install before doing these steps, I couldn't figure out what goes where, and Logic 7 crashed more than a few times. My old Logic 6 folder is still on my desktop. I don¹t use it, and will more than likely throw it away, but not just yet... Hope this helps. George ________________________________________________________ A Member of the Apple Consultants Network (ACN) and an Apple Product Professional. Check out my website at www.utopiaparkwaymusic.com Now both Mac OSX and Windows XP... the only way to fly ;-)

I use a PCI-424/2408 and Unitor/AMT8 on my G5, but I'm setting up a system for someone else with different needs. So for those using RME's CardBus (and a Digiface or Multiface) with their Mac and OSX, do you find the latency low enough to allow for thru monitoring? Has anybody used one of these combinations successfully at higher sample rates? And is anybody using the MIDI ports on a Digiface with Logic? Sorry for the string of questions, but I don't know if this same hardware that works so well on my PC will work as well on a Mac. Thanks for any help. Sean McCoy Oregon Sound Recording

On Dec 2, 2004, at 2:54 PM, Sean McCoy wrote: > > > I use a PCI-424/2408 and Unitor/AMT8 on my G5, but I'm setting up a > system > for someone else with different needs. So for those using RME's CardBus > (and a Digiface or Multiface) with their Mac and OSX, do you find the > latency low enough to allow for thru monitoring? Has anybody used one > of > these combinations successfully at higher sample rates? And is anybody > using the MIDI ports on a Digiface with Logic? Sorry for the string of > questions, but I don't know if this same hardware that works so well > on my > PC will work as well on a Mac. Thanks for any help. The RME Multiface probably as fast as anything else and will give as low latency as anything you are going to find on OSX. As far as SW monitoring goes, somebody on this list recently said they thought using it was a bad idea. I am afraid I have to concur. Firstly the basic architecture of OSX and core audio ends up adding about 3ms or more compared to what you would get at an equivalent setting in OS9 or Windows. Because of this the natural tendency of the user is to want to set the IO buffer to a low setting which he may do and just endure some pops and clicks that that ends up causing. The problem is I have found that those pops and clicks do not just happen in the monitoring signal but actually end up getting recorded to disc. So with great reluctance I have to say that it is still not the time for hardware monitoring on the Mac.

At 03:37 AM 12/02/2004, Dennis Gunn wrote: >So with great reluctance I have to say that it is still not the time >for hardware monitoring on the Mac. Does everyone concur with this? I have a MOTU PCI-424-based G5, but because I have a Mackie D8B I've never bothered with hardware monitoring attempts because the console makes the setting up of cue mixes so simple. Guess it's time to run some tests. In an auxiliary studio, I've done several live band sessions on a PC with an RME 9652 and a couple of Frontier Tango converters using hardware monitoring with no latency issues whatsoever (using SAWStudio---great software, BTW). So I find it hard to believe that it's impossible to do the same on my big, bad G5. Say it ain't so!

On Dec 8, 2004, at 2:05 AM, Sean McCoy wrote: > > > At 03:37 AM 12/02/2004, Dennis Gunn wrote: >> So with great reluctance I have to say that it is still not the time >> for hardware monitoring on the Mac. > > Does everyone concur with this? I have a MOTU PCI-424-based G5, but > because > I have a Mackie D8B I've never bothered with hardware monitoring > attempts > because the console makes the setting up of cue mixes so simple. Guess > it's > time to run some tests. > > In an auxiliary studio, I've done several live band sessions on a PC > with > an RME 9652 and a couple of Frontier Tango converters using hardware > monitoring with no latency issues whatsoever (using SAWStudio---great > software, BTW). So I find it hard to believe that it's impossible to > do the > same on my big, bad G5. Say it ain't so! AAAK. What an awful typo. I meant SW monitoring. HW monitoring works just fine. Monitoring live inputs through SW effects in logic in OSX is what is problematic.

At 04:43 PM 12/17/2004, you wrote: > > At 03:37 AM 12/02/2004, Dennis Gunn wrote: > >> So with great reluctance I have to say that it is still not the time > >> for hardware monitoring on the Mac. > >AAAK. > >What an awful typo. > >I meant SW monitoring. > >HW monitoring works just fine. > >Monitoring live inputs through SW effects in logic in OSX is what is >problematic. Understood. According to RME support, latency-free hardware monitoring is indeed possible with TotalMix, but CoreAudio, unlike ASIO direct monitoring, won't allow for true tape-recorder/console emulation. But they claim that low buffer settings can get the latency down to as little as 3 ms. Is anybody working successfully at that level? I don't really care about realtime plugins---I'd be happy if I could just monitor the raw audio I/O and control everything from the Logic mixer.