> From: "Jules Bromley" <jules@...> Jules, here's a few links to messages related to scroll bat crashing, there's a work around in one of the messages... (assigning key commands to scroll) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/logic-users/message/176490 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/logic-users/message/176499 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/logic-users/message/176509 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/logic-users/message/176511 Howard

--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, Howard Wooten <hwooten@d...> wrote: > there's a work around in one of the messages... (assigning key commands to > scroll) > > Howard Hi Howard, Thanks for the links, that was a good selection of the discussion. I went into my key commands list as soon as I read that suggestion and looked for KCs that would allow me to do that, but no luck. Has anyone else found the elusive scroll commands in the KC list? Sonny Keyes SKa Music Toronto www.skamusic.ca

> Jules, here's a few links to messages related to scroll bat crashing, > there's a work around in one of the messages... (assigning key >commands to scroll) Take my word for it. There are some plug-ins that aren't validating or performing properly with Logic 7. BOO HOOO! But, the fact is, there are a lot MORE plug-ins that ARE working properly with Logic 7. ALL of Logic's own plug-ins work perfectly with Logic 7, so when 3rd party companies release software with "Bugs", it's not Apple's fault. Those "Bugs" will not appear in VST version, but they WILL show up in AU. And no, you can't wrap the VST into Logic as far as I know, although it's worth testing. The fact that Apple may accommodate the "less than compatible" plug-ins with a fix, makes Apple a class act.

> -----Original Message----- > From: jonathankek2000 [mailto:jonathankek2000@...] > Take my word for it. There are some plug-ins that aren't > validating or performing properly with Logic 7. BOO HOOO! > > But, the fact is, there are a lot MORE plug-ins that ARE > working properly with Logic 7. ALL of Logic's own plug-ins > work perfectly with Logic 7, so when 3rd party companies > release software with "Bugs", it's not Apple's fault. Those > "Bugs" will not appear in VST version, but they WILL show up > in AU. And no, you can't wrap the VST into Logic as far as I > know, although it's worth testing. > > The fact that Apple may accommodate the "less than compatible" > plug-ins with a fix, makes Apple a class act. Why is it with every single issue with Logic we have to go through this whole performance? Somebody has a genuine problem and tries to get some help, and a couple of people feel the need to stand up and defend Logic and Apple, even though nobody's criticizing them. Jon, I don't care whose problem it is, I was just trying to get some advice on how to work around it. Four posts above yours, Jody's had Logic crash with NO 3rd party plugins running - unless you programmed Logic yourself, how can you be so sure it has nothing to do with Logic, and why bother with the post at all if it was just to demean people with a legitimate problem who's software is crashing. I appreciate people wanting to counter needless criticism of our beloved host, but this type of propaganda is just pointless. Isn't this list supposed to be moderated? Jules

On Nov 3, 2004, at 00:31, jonathankek2000 wrote: > ALL of Logic's own plug-ins work perfectly with > Logic 7, so when 3rd party companies release software with "Bugs", > it's not Apple's fault. Except the ET1, their own guitar tuner. Who's fault is that? My guitar didn't it like anyway... Peter Ostry

On Nov 3, 2004, at 00:31, jonathankek2000 wrote: >> ALL of Logic's own plug-ins work perfectly with >> Logic 7, so when 3rd party companies release >> software with "Bugs", it's not Apple's fault. Peter Ostry <po@...> writes: > Except the ET1, their own guitar tuner. ET1 has been rewritten as an internal Logic plugin inside Logic7. The old one was an external AudioUnit, which doesn't work in Logic7 (and doesn't need to work, since the new one completely replaces it and is improved anyway). f-erenc szabo, smarty pants Z+E+R+O+B+E+A+T "NOW POWERED BY THE MIRACLE OF THE TRANSISTOR!" <http://home.goodmedia.com/~zerobeat>

> I appreciate people wanting to counter needless criticism of our >beloved host, but this type of propaganda is just pointless. Isn't >this list supposed to be moderated? > > Jules My post was giving the facts. If you take out certain plug-ins you will not have scroll bar crashes. If there is a specific problem that Logic itself is causing, please tell us exactly what it is. Or better yet, tell Apple. Otherwise, we will have to be patient, and wait for the 3rd party software makers to come up with a fix. It also seems that Apple is willing to accommodate the idiosyncrasies of certain plug in makers, but it will probably take some time to put together an update. I guess the question is.....why does everything work fine with Apple's Plugs, Ohmboyz plugs, Elementals plugs, Cameleon, Zebra, UAD-1, and a ton of other plugs, but not Spectrasonic and WAVES? I can't create this crash, any other way.

> > ALL of Logic's own plug-ins work perfectly with > > Logic 7, so when 3rd party companies release software with "Bugs", > > it's not Apple's fault. > Except the ET1, their own guitar tuner. Who's fault is that? > My guitar didn't it like anyway... Clearly, then, the fault lies with your guitar ; ) u b i k

On Nov 4, 2004, at 09:05, u b i k wrote: >>> ALL of Logic's own plug-ins work perfectly with >>> Logic 7, so when 3rd party companies release software with "Bugs", >>> it's not Apple's fault. > >> Except the ET1, their own guitar tuner. Who's fault is that? >> My guitar didn't it like anyway... > > Clearly, then, the fault lies with your guitar ; ) Maybe true. I think my guitar does not like Logic very much. Sometimes recorded pieces sound completely different than I've played them :) Peter Ostry