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From: Nick Batzdorf <recording@...>
Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 at 7:56:31 PM
Subject: Re: NI Kontakt multitimral help
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> > Set up 16 Audioinstrument 1s (or whichever one you're using for >> Kontakt), each assigned to a separate MIDI channel. It'll look like >> you have 16 Kontakts assigned, but there's only one. The faders all >> move together, but you can assign each one to a separate output path >> and the output assignments in the Kontakt plug-in will apply. >> >> I have this whole thing on a separate Environment layer and screenset >> for convenience, but if you look at a layer with just Audioinstrument > > 1, you'll see just one Kontakt. From: GAmoore@... >Your suggestion is very similar to the tutorial in the Logic section of >Computer Music this month. I tried it for GPO which uses NI's >player. One problem >is that you don't see the instrument in the channel strip anymore. Sure you do, Greg. It's still there. >So you have >to go to that environment layer to change GPO patches. The Audioinstrument is the Audioinstrument, and it doesn't move from wherever it normally is. But it only shows one Kontakt/Kompakt/Kontakt Player if you're not looking at the layer I suggested creating. >And that is made more difficult by some behaviour on Logic's part. I have two >arrange pages - one for each monitor and on one I can click on a track to >pull up the environment, and the other not. I forgot what >combination of "track >name" or "instrument name" I have - but they are obvioiusly different and if >you don't have the right one, then you can't bring up the >environment to change >the patch. In fact, you can not even select the newly created multi instrument >unless you have the right combination on the arrange page! I just use a screenset with three "exploded" Kontakts spread across 1-1/2 monitors, and then the other half monitor is an Arrange window. This is what I use for my East West Quantum Leap Symphony Orchestra template; rather than setting up lots and lots of tracks, I highlight a blank track in the Arrange window and command/click on the "phantom" Kontakt to assign its instrument to that track when I want to audition an articulation. If you name the "phantom" Kontakt, that's what you see in the Arrange window. It works very well, and not just for Kontakt, of course. I do the same thing with the rest of the instruments in my orchestral template, except I use icons that point to my Giga machine for VSL and other libs, and I have another screenset that brings up all my EXS24s. This is one of the features that makes Logic work really well for large templates: you just set up your pallet and command/click on whatever it is you want to hear, without worrying about whether it's internal or external. >Furthermore, you have to go through the same effort to add plug-ins since you >only see a midi channel on the channel strip. I'm afraid I don't understand what you mean by that. >And forget about having >separate eq or reverbs on different tracks (e.g. violins, cellos, etc). You can address separate reverbs, but it's true that you have to use the built-in eq. >All in all, I think its better to do it the simple way and just define one >instrument per one track, and then you can access the patchs and plugs >conveniently from the Arrange page. The problem is that you get about 20% of the mileage that way, since Kontakt can eat up a fair amount of CPU, or at least quite a bit more than the EXS. Plus programs that share samples only load them (or their head starts) into memory once if they're in the same Kontakt instance, so it's more efficient to use them multitibrally. But whatever works for you... -- Nick Batzdorf 818/905-9101, cell 590-9101, fax 905-5434
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