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From: "Sascha Franck" <saschafranck@...>
Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 at 1:35:36 PM
Subject: Re: mp3 coming?
Message #10385
I would like to add something that Frank W. Kooistra allready kinda mentioned: Logic is such a nicely coded thing that on a Windows reinstall you don't even have to reinstall Logic if you had it on another then your c: partition. All you have to do is to reregister Logics LOG_DS.AX file (it's in windowssystem, so you could backup it) in order to make DX plugins accessable again. MP3 encoding however requires some codecs to be installed, to my knowledge you can't reregister them easily (someone might correct me on this) they even are overwritten each time you install a new Media Player or whatever, just because Windows/M$ is that stupid. So, basically I'd prefer to keep Logic slim and let other things do the MP3 coding stuff. That's also the reason why I don't like that ResRocket thing. Great idea, but well, we all know that it will need quite some time until fast enough web connects for everybody are available and I surely don't wanna work with streamed 24kbps files in any ResRocket mode, so realtime network is out of reach with MP3 yet. Further: To me it's not too hard to decode mp3 samples that I loaded from the web, Winamp does a good job with that (it even does batch conversion), so there's no need for me to have my Sequencer load and play MP3s directly (the only reason I could imagine is HD space, but well, huge HDs aren't too expensive these days). Oh, another thing I wanted to mention, now that Joeris wish about a realtime stream comes to my mind... This actually is possible with the shoutcast MP3 server software (www.shoutcast.com). To set it up you either need some second soundcard that you feed via your mixer or alternatively I think it also could be possible with a tool like virtual audio cable (but I haven't tested that by myself and it might be problematic to find the right routing inside Logic. Sorry, no URL for that handy). Further: Luckily I'm a guitar player mainly, and since (electric) guitars don't have a) a very broad frequency range (there's almost nothing above 8kHz and below 80Hz that you might want to use) and b) a very broad dynamic range MP3 is pretty much ok at least for my instrument (as said, I'm on the lucky side of things with that). Last thing: Personally I really don't have any problems with mp3ed samples for many purposes. For instrument samples it might not be such a good idea (as you loose loop points and all that), but for loops for instance it's pretty much good enough in many cases. I mean, I almost never keep loops as they are, usually I edit them quite a bit. And since nowadays you can do amazing things by cleaning, declicking, gating and pumping up wavefiles there's not necessarily a reason for the result to sound unprofessional, even if the source file was an mp3. Just for the record, when we recorded our album with my band (major label, HUGE studio, bla bla bla...) in two songs we used loops that I did at home, and the source material of at least one of them (don't remember how I did the second one, at least some highly unprofessional free VST plugins were used...) were some things that I downloaded from the Kalava drum archive (http://hem2.passagen.se/lej97/kalava/index.html). Of course, as said, I fooled around a lot with them, like snipping, glueing, fading, effecting and so on. And oh well, that loop wasn't used because of the "bad", "cheap" or "degraded" sound but just because it sounded exactly the way it had to sound. So far, cheers, Sascha
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