From: Pants <moisie@...> >I gave up on The Grand some time ago and moved to the East West Boesendorfer >instead; far fewer problems with that, although it does take more setting up >to sound good. How so, just out of interest? I have the Giga version of the Post Bösendorfer 290 and haven't had to do anything to make it sound abso-freaking-lutely awesome. -- Nick Batzdorf 818/905-9101, cell 590-9101, fax 905-5434

> From: Nick Batzdorf <recording@...> > > How so, just out of interest? I have the Giga version of the Post > Bösendorfer 290 and haven't had to do anything to make it sound > abso-freaking-lutely awesome. First up: I'm talking about the plug-in version of the instrument (running on an OEM Kontakt engine), and haven't experienced the sampler versions at all, so I don't know where the difference lies. But: its not that the sounds / samples are deficient in any way at all - they are top notch. Its that the included programs take more work to get them playing as well as The Grand does. For example: there is no program included which switches between a different sample set according to whether the pedal is up or down. Both sets of samples are included - but no preset program to switch between them; you have to roll your own multi, containing both sides, and assign them according to the pedal status. In The Grand, you don't have to do this yourself! If I'm wrong, and just missing something, I'd be grateful if someone could point it out! Its a bit of a pain otherwise, and mars an otherwise great instrument. As I said earlier, I have very high hopes for Ivory. The MP3 demos sound awesome, but time will tell as to whether it behaves well! Best wishes, -- The best of times to you all... Pants

>>I gave up on The Grand some time ago and moved to the East West Boesendorfer >>instead; far fewer problems with that, although it does take more setting up >>to sound good. > > How so, just out of interest? I have the Giga version of the Post > Bösendorfer 290 and haven't had to do anything to make it sound > abso-freaking-lutely awesome. Whilst on the subject, is it normal for Bösendorfer 290 presets to take about 1 to 5 minutes to load in the Kontakt player within Logic?

>>> I gave up on The Grand some time ago and moved to the East West Boesendorfer >>> instead; far fewer problems with that, although it does take more setting up >>> to sound good. >> >> How so, just out of interest? I have the Giga version of the Post >> Bösendorfer 290 and haven't had to do anything to make it sound >> abso-freaking-lutely awesome. > > Whilst on the subject, is it normal for Bösendorfer 290 presets to take > about 1 to 5 minutes to load in the Kontakt player within Logic? Same here, annoying, but probably "normal"... Cheers / H

On Oct 2, 2004, at 4:20 AM, esp wrote: > >>>> I gave up on The Grand some time ago and moved to the East West >>>> Boesendorfer >>>> instead; far fewer problems with that, although it does take more >>>> setting up >>>> to sound good. >>> >>> How so, just out of interest? I have the Giga version of the Post >>> Bösendorfer 290 and haven't had to do anything to make it sound >>> abso-freaking-lutely awesome. >> >> Whilst on the subject, is it normal for Bösendorfer 290 presets to >> take >> about 1 to 5 minutes to load in the Kontakt player within Logic? > > Same here, annoying, but probably "normal"... Cheers / H > > > Add a couple of extra minutes of boot time when you add a Powercore and UAD-1.. George ________________________________________________________ www.utopiaparkwaymusic.com Now both Mac OSX and Windows XP... the only way to fly ;-) Some cool Logic tips: http://www.courseptr.com/cooltips/

esp wrote: >>Whilst on the subject, is it normal for Bösendorfer 290 presets to take >>about 1 to 5 minutes to load in the Kontakt player within Logic? > > Same here, annoying, but probably "normal"... Cheers / H Thanks - now I know it's not just here. And some people wonder why I stick to hardware synths! =:-O

--- Bill Canty <Bill@...> wrote: >And some people wonder why I stick to hardware > synths! Yeah but what hardware synths sound as good as the PMI Bosendorfer? JP

james page wrote: > > --- Bill Canty <Bill@...> wrote: >>And some people wonder why I stick to hardware >>synths! > > Yeah but what hardware synths sound as good as the PMI > Bosendorfer? JP Dunno - it takes so long to load a Bosendorfer patch that I really get sick of waiting to find out what it sounds like and how easily my G4/733 conks out. Will try again when I get a G5.