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From: Michael Haydn <mhaydn@...>
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2004 at 4:04:50 AM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Distributed Audio on LOGIC 7
Message #172081
On 01.10.2004, at 04:54, logic-users@yahoogroups.com wrote: > With the Distributed audio does this require another license of logic > on > another machine? No. On the DVD, you find an installer for Logic Node. Logic Node does not require an XSKey, so you can install and run it on any number of Macs. Beste Gruesse - best regards, Michael Haydn - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dipl.-Inform. Univ. Michael Haydn mhaydn@... Logic Developer http://www.emagic.de/ SoundDiver Group Executive Emagic Soft- & Hardware GmbH - Germany Phone: +49 4101 495 0 Halstenbeker Weg 96, 25462 Rellingen Fax : +49 4101 495 199 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
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From: "jeppestrand" <jeppestrand@...>
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2004 at 11:00:54 AM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Distributed Audio on LOGIC 7
Message #172124
This is a reply to #172081.
To what extend will a cheap seconhand Dual 1Ghz powermac work as a server? (I see G5 is recommended) It is pretty powerful on it's own though....
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From: "f-erenc szabo" <zerobeat@...>
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2004 at 5:25:11 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Distributed Audio on LOGIC 7
Message #172164
This is a reply to #172124.
"jeppestrand" <jeppestrand@...> writes: >To what extend will a cheap seconhand Dual 1Ghz powermac work as a server? I assume you're discussing the Distribute Audio processing on L7 with extra Macs as nodes, and not generic server issues? I'm sure that once Logic7 is released, there will be folks posting their own benchmarks regarding this. A G5 via Gigabit Ethernet is recommended. Your proposed Mac as a node will work, but use at your own risk. You can certainly use any G4 as the non-node "main" Mac that is running Logic itself. f-erenc szabo, smarty pants Z+E+R+O+B+E+A+T "NOW POWERED BY THE MIRACLE OF THE TRANSISTOR!" <http://home.goodmedia.com/~zerobeat>
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From: Jorma Pennanen <jorma.pennanen@...>
Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2004 at 3:07:46 AM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Distributed Audio on LOGIC 7
Message #172239
This is a reply to #172164.
On 2. loka 2004, at 01:25, f-erenc szabo wrote: > > "jeppestrand" <jeppestrand@...> writes: >> To what extend will a cheap seconhand Dual 1Ghz powermac work as a >> server? > > I assume you're discussing the Distribute Audio processing > on L7 with extra Macs as nodes, and not generic server issues? > > I'm sure that once Logic7 is released, there will be folks > posting their own benchmarks regarding this. A G5 > via Gigabit Ethernet is recommended. Your proposed > Mac as a node will work, but use at your own risk. > > You can certainly use any G4 as the non-node "main" > Mac that is running Logic itself. F-erenc, can you clarify what you meant by saying "use at your own risk" ? I pressume that you mean that it might work or not or that it is not consistent or did you actually mean that you could risk damaging something in either of the computers ?? I'm naturally in the same boat as "jeppestrand" <jeppestrand@...>" as my current Mac is single 867 Mhz G4 which, while already taking a huge hit from Melodyne and Chameleon 5000, is still OK and with Freeze I try to get by untill mid-2005 when hopefully I've saved enough to get a new Mac and audio card. Thinking maybe I could use this G4 with that future G5 ? Thanks Check out the web page for my band updated 9.4.2004 . New home address : http://jormapen.fidisk.fi
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From: Gareth Henderson <gareth@...>
Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2004 at 3:17:54 AM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Distributed Audio on LOGIC 7
Message #172245
This is a reply to #172239.
>>> To what extend will a cheap seconhand Dual 1Ghz powermac work as a >>> server? >> >> I assume you're discussing the Distribute Audio processing >> on L7 with extra Macs as nodes, and not generic server issues? >> >> I'm sure that once Logic7 is released, there will be folks >> posting their own benchmarks regarding this. A G5 >> via Gigabit Ethernet is recommended. Your proposed >> Mac as a node will work, but use at your own risk. >> >> You can certainly use any G4 as the non-node "main" >> Mac that is running Logic itself. Hey f-erenc, Without wishing to undermine the many useful contributions you make to the group, could you tell use if this somewhat dome laden post is born from your actual experiences with doing this (you are a beta tester aren't you?) or are you just finding a new way to re-interpret the release literature for us? :-) If the former, could you be a little more specific and technical - I think we can handle it :-))) Gareth
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From: "f-erenc szabo" <zerobeat@...>
Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2004 at 3:04:50 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Distributed Audio on LOGIC 7
Message #172305
This is a reply to #172239.
"jeppestrand" <jeppestrand@...> writes: >> Dual 1Ghz powermac On 2. loka 2004, at 01:25, f-erenc szabo wrote: > I'm sure that once Logic7 is released, there will be folks > posting their own benchmarks regarding this. A G5 > via Gigabit Ethernet is recommended. Your proposed > Mac as a node will work, but use at your own risk. > > You can certainly use any G4 as the non-node "main" > Mac that is running Logic itself. Jorma Pennanen <jorma.pennanen@...> writes: > F-erenc, can you clarify what you meant by saying > "use at your own risk" ? You might explode the Mac. But seriously, it simply means: it's not officially supported, tested or sanctioned. Don't come crying if it doesn't work. But it does work. I used ProTools 5.0 for 3 years on my NuBus rig. Digi also didn't support, test or sanction this. I never had one problem, but if I did I would have not complained about it. f-erenc szabo, smarty pants Z+E+R+O+B+E+A+T "NOW POWERED BY THE MIRACLE OF THE TRANSISTOR!" <http://home.goodmedia.com/~zerobeat>
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From: "f-erenc szabo" <zerobeat@...>
Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2004 at 3:14:41 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Distributed Audio on LOGIC 7
Message #172308
This is a reply to #172245.
>>> Dual 1Ghz powermac f-erenc writes: >> I'm sure that once Logic7 is released, there will be folks >> posting their own benchmarks regarding this. A G5 >> via Gigabit Ethernet is recommended. Your proposed >> Mac as a node will work, but use at your own risk. >> >> You can certainly use any G4 as the non-node "main" >> Mac that is running Logic itself. Gareth Henderson <gareth@...> > could you be a little more specific and technical No, I didn't do any benchmarks. You plug a G4 into another G4 via Ethernet. You install the Node software on the Mac that isn't running Logic. In Logic you activate the node[s] that it "sees" through the ethernet cable. You click the node button on the desired audio track or audio instrument. The audio + DSP is offloaded to the node Mac. The local CPU meter goes down and the Node meter goes up (you can see this Node meter in Logic, beside the normal CPU and Disk meter). It's just not supported by Apple if the node Mac isn't a G5. Don't call them for tech support if you're using a G4 as a node Mac. It wasn't *officially* tested, and a G4 will pale in comparison to a G5 in terms of extra DSP horsepower. But obviously, plenty of folks unofficially tested it. How can one not? It's just so tempting and undangerous. f-erenc szabo, smarty pants Z+E+R+O+B+E+A+T "NOW POWERED BY THE MIRACLE OF THE TRANSISTOR!" <http://home.goodmedia.com/~zerobeat>
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From: "designermusic2003" <designermusic2003@...>
Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2004 at 5:42:06 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Distributed Audio on LOGIC 7
Message #172331
This is a reply to #172308.
<quoting fixed by admin> --- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, "f-erenc szabo" <zerobeat@g...> wrote: > No, I didn't do any benchmarks. You plug a G4 > into another G4 via Ethernet. You install the Node > software on the Mac that isn't running Logic. In > Logic you activate the node[s] that it "sees" through the > ethernet cable. You click the node button on the desired > audio track or audio instrument. The audio + DSP is > offloaded to the node Mac. The local CPU meter goes down > and the Node meter goes up (you can see this Node meter > in Logic, beside the normal CPU and Disk meter). > > It's just not supported by Apple if the node Mac isn't a G5. > Don't call them for tech support if you're using a G4 as > a node Mac. It wasn't *officially* tested, and a G4 will pale > in comparison to a G5 in terms of extra DSP horsepower. > > But obviously, plenty of folks unofficially tested it. How > can one not? It's just so tempting and undangerous. What if I have a G5 and use a G4 as the node? How much of the processing burden is left for the "host" machine? Or does Logic try to "Farm out" everything first and then...use the host machine for what's left? Stef
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From: dennis gunn <dennis@...>
Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2004 at 11:42:23 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Distributed Audio on LOGIC 7
Message #172376
This is a reply to #172331.
On Oct 3, 2004, at 7:42 AM, designermusic2003 wrote: > > <quoting fixed by admin> > > --- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, "f-erenc szabo" <zerobeat@g...> > wrote: > >> But obviously, plenty of folks unofficially tested it. How >> can one not? It's just so tempting and undangerous. > > What if I have a G5 and use a G4 as the node? > How much of the processing burden is left for the "host" machine? > Or does Logic try to "Farm out" everything first and then...use the > host machine for what's > left? > You select what tracks are processed on the node. As for using a G5 as the main processor and a G4 as a node it can be done and there is nothing wrong with that, except that the g4 will only have about 1/4th the power of the G5 so you are not getting all that huge of a kick.
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