Hi, JR wrote: >Panther will not install on a G3 Beige box. Not completely true; it's not officially supported, but there are people using Xpostfacto to install it. AFAIK, the Xpostfacto writer is actively working on improvements. > It [Panther?] requires a USB port, which >Beige boxes don't have (at least mine didn't), and an add on card won't do >it. I tried and failed. The OS 10.3 itself requires a USB port? Or did you mean Logic? Anyway, I have an OrangeMicro FW/USB card in my Beige, and the USB and Firewire work fine - the USB, for instance, supporting the XsKey for Logic Pro 6; and the FW a LaCie DVD +/-RW drive. >AFAIK. Also 233 is going to be veeeerrrryyyyy sluggish with a king kong >program like Logic 7 with any plugins running. Whether an old box will be useful is an individual matter - currently I'm editing mono spoken word and 2-track stereo audio takes. For final mix (with SD and other plugs) I couldn't possibly use it with the current CPU (/233), but for the composite editing it still works fine. And who knows, maybe one of those ZIF upgrade cards will allow me to run 10.3 when I do the mixing?.... Of course, I'd be a fool to try it. But I've been a fool before..... :-) Steven Rowat p.s. one of the things I've read widely about Panther is that it's FASTER than 10.2 was, noticeably. Thus it makes sense to put it into old machines, in places where 10.2 would have been too slow. At least, that's my theory..... hey, maybe 10.4 will be EVEN FASTER and I can get my 7100 back from my dad, and..... ;-) - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - web site: <http://www.rowatworks.com>; mailto:sc@...