Hi, I've been a dedicated PC user for years but Logic 7 has made me decide to make the switch. Because I'm on a limited budget, I'm looking at a 450mhz G4 cube with 512mb Ram - will Logic 7 be able to run on this and perform acceptably? Thanks!

> Hi, I've been a dedicated PC user for years but Logic 7 has made me > decide to make the switch. Because I'm on a limited budget, I'm > looking at a 450mhz G4 cube with 512mb Ram - will Logic 7 be able to > run on this and perform acceptably? > I would imagine it would run - but don't expect too much from it. I've just 'retired' a 450 G4 Tower that was running Logic Pro 6. I could get a reasonable number of tracks and plug-ins (with 768MB RAM and a second internal hard disk) but it would frequently fall over long before a project was completed! For instance, I could use Space Designer, but some of the presets with long tails would use a huge proportion of the available power. I guess it depends on your expectations. I suspect that some of the new Plug-ins will be very processor intensive too. Of course - I'm commenting on Logic Pro 6 - no one has tried 7 yet!

I was just wondering if the shuffle feature on Ultrabeat automatically incorporates any user defined groove templates within the song? It looks like sequencing is achieved via a drum machine interface within the plug-in itself, hence my question. Or, is it possible to sequence it in the 'traditional' manner within the arrange window as well?

> It looks like sequencing is achieved via a drum machine interface > within the plug-in itself, hence my question. > Or, is it possible to sequence it in the 'traditional' manner within > the arrange window as well? Yes. O.

On Sep 30, 2004, at 11:53 PM, Paul Crowley wrote: > I would imagine it would run - but don't expect too much from it. > I've just 'retired' a 450 G4 Tower that was running Logic Pro 6. > I could get a reasonable number of tracks and plug-ins (with 768MB RAM > and a second internal hard disk) but it would frequently fall over long > before a project was completed! For instance, I could use Space > Designer, but some of the presets with long tails would use a huge > proportion of the available power. > I guess it depends on your expectations. I suspect that some of the new > Plug-ins will be very processor intensive too. > Of course - I'm commenting on Logic Pro 6 - no one has tried 7 yet! There must be some difference in machines, because I couldn't get a single 733 G4 with 1.5 GB RAM to run Logic Pro without an unworkable number of pops, clicks and chatters, especially when trying to run plugs. Chameleon wouldn't run at all- just froze. When Space Designer was merely selected, but no file actually running, the CPU meter was nearly maxxed out. I finally took a hint from George, and bought a 1.8 G5. I had a lot of expenses at the time, so I was budget conscious, so bought a refurb from the Apple online store. The machine was supposed to have only 256 MB of RAM in it, so I bought 2 GB from Memory Solutions, and when I got the machine, it had 1 GB in it, so I have 3 GB. And now everything runs fine; the CPU meter registers maybe 1/16, if that. To the poster considering a G4 cube: sounds like a nightmare to me. Based on my experience, I wouldn't even consider it. And something like Sculpture is likely to be even more demanding. James

I thought there was a 2GB limit for Logic? Cheers Clive Young

On Oct 1, 2004, at 4:43 AM, Clive Young wrote: > I thought there was a 2GB limit for Logic? > Cheers > Clive Young > > That was my understanding. "2GB is recommended", was how it was put; I wasn't sure if that 2 GB included RAM for the system, or whether Logic itself could make use of a full 2 GB. James

James, you must be mistaken. I have a quicksilver 733, and I was able to run at least one instance of Space Designer at a time. Two or three, if I shortened the reverb time. And I recently upgraded it to a OEM 933 on the cheap. Performance isn't awesome by any measure, but it meets my needs. Mark

"steinbergerstyler" <steinbergerstyler@...> writes: >450mhz G4 cube with 512mb Ram - will Logic 7 be able to >run on this and perform acceptably? Logic7 will run on any Mac that Logic6 runs on (under OSX). Any G4 for sure. f-erenc szabo, smarty pants Z+E+R+O+B+E+A+T "NOW POWERED BY THE MIRACLE OF THE TRANSISTOR!" <http://home.goodmedia.com/~zerobeat>

--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, "f-erenc szabo" <zerobeat@g...> wrote: > "steinbergerstyler" <steinbergerstyler@y...> writes: > >450mhz G4 cube with 512mb Ram - will Logic 7 be able to > >run on this and perform acceptably? > > Logic7 will run on any Mac that Logic6 runs on > (under OSX). Any G4 for sure. > > Thanks for all the responses everyone! Will there be significant latency with a 450mhz machine?

"steinbergerstyler" <steinbergerstyler@...> writes: >Will there be significant >latency with a 450mhz machine? The latency is a function of your soundcard's driver. Any G4 isn't a bottleneck in and of itself. Even a G3 can have excellent [low] latency. f-erenc szabo, smarty pants Z+E+R+O+B+E+A+T "NOW POWERED BY THE MIRACLE OF THE TRANSISTOR!" <http://home.goodmedia.com/~zerobeat>