On 9/30/04 3:00 PM, "logic-users@yahoogroups.com" <logic-users@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > The use of the EXS24 on a machine that was acting as a node to a main > machine would fall foul of the letter of the law, but it wouldn't mean two > people were taking advantage of one library and therefore cheating you out > of a well deserved wage. Sorry - and I don't speak as anybody representing Ilio or any other manufacturer on this. I'm one of the principal programmers for Korg Japan (main gig) and I've made 2 sampler libraries that Ilio distributes (side gig). You said it yourself in the above paragraph - that it's illegal. This analogy has nothing to do in comparison to dual processors in a single machine !!! If 2 people are using the same library (regardless of how they do it) then they should both be paid up customers with that library. PERIOD. No discount license fee option or special considerations. It took me over 1 year to make each of my libraries with NO MONEY for the whole time I created it. I know a number of libraries that have taken even longer to produce !!! I don't see how you guys think that all the sample library companies should be expected to "simply" change their licensing structure and then contact every customer that has purchased an Akai or ESX24 library from them to buy an upgraded license. It's almost impossible to make a living already doing just sample libraries. -John Lehmkuhl Look, I'm sorry if this slows down the use of ESX24 (I'm on a dual 500mhz G4 - you wanna talk about SLOW ????), but in my opinion, Apple is doing the right thing. Especially with the 64-bit version of OSX and Logic 7 coming down the road where things will (internally) run close to twice as fast as they already are doing now,

On Oct 1, 2004, at 7:56 AM, John wrote: > Look, I'm sorry if this slows down the use of ESX24 (I'm on a dual > 500mhz G4 > - you wanna talk about SLOW ????), but in my opinion, Apple is doing > the > right thing. Especially with the 64-bit version of OSX and Logic 7 > coming > down the road where things will (internally) run close to twice as > fast as > they already are doing now, > So do you think that apple should prevent the copying of audio files from one machine to another? If that is really what is holding up EXS implementation on nodes then they are definitely doing the wrong thing, for them you, us users or anybody else.

On Sep 30, 2004, at 3:56 PM, John wrote: > On 9/30/04 3:00 PM, "logic-users@yahoogroups.com" > <logic-users@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > >> The use of the EXS24 on a machine that was acting as a node to a >> main >> machine would fall foul of the letter of the law, but it wouldn't >> mean two >> people were taking advantage of one library and therefore cheating >> you out >> of a well deserved wage. > > > You said it yourself in the above paragraph - that it's illegal. This > analogy has nothing to do in comparison to dual processors in a single > machine !!! If 2 people are using the same library (regardless of how > they > do it) then they should both be paid up customers with that library. > PERIOD. Skippy, you aren't making any sense. That's the whole point, two people are not using the library. Two machines, one person. Cheers Michael Telle

John <realkuhl@...> writes: >I've made 2 sampler libraries that Ilio distributes [snip] > I'm sorry if this slows down the use of ESX24 (I'm on a dual > 500mhz G4 - you wanna talk about SLOW ????), but in my > opinion, Apple is doing the right thing. Please explain how using EXS on a node, which means also putting the samples on the node, will somehow diminish sales of sample libraries. I would think it either wouldn't affect it at all, or even increase sales because more people will be able to use more EXS instances and thus want bigger libraries perhaps. I just can't think of how it makes things worse. f-erenc szabo, smarty pants Z+E+R+O+B+E+A+T "NOW POWERED BY THE MIRACLE OF THE TRANSISTOR!" <http://home.goodmedia.com/~zerobeat>