I have Logic 5.5.1 on pc, and was thinking of upgrading to Pro 6. Of course I need a mac for that. Having hardly used a mac, I'm just wondering how the stability compares to Windows XP. I heard rumors of freezes with mac G5. Anyone want to comment on this? What about the G4? Is it an OS problem? Thanks, Anthony Lombardi www.anthonylombardi.com

<quotes repositioned, footers removed by admin> On 5 Sep 2004, at 18:56, Anthony Lombardi wrote: > I have Logic 5.5.1 on pc, and was thinking of upgrading to Pro 6. Of > course I need a mac for that. Having hardly used a mac, I'm just > wondering how the stability compares to Windows XP. I heard rumors > of freezes with mac G5. Anyone want to comment on this? What about > the G4? Is it an OS problem? > > Thanks, > Anthony Lombardi > www.anthonylombardi.com Hi there, I've recently made the switch from 5.5 on PC to Pro on a new G5. My experience is that working in OSX on the G5 compared with WinXP is like driving a BMW after an old mini. I have had some teething problems but not with Logic itself. I dont regret a single £ i've spent, my studio has never run so smoothly (I can feel the forces of providence gathering as I speak). I cant speak for G4s or earlier OS but G5+panther+logic is a great combination - go for it. Steve

On Sep 5, 2004, at 10:56 AM, Anthony Lombardi wrote: > I have Logic 5.5.1 on pc, and was thinking of upgrading to Pro 6. Of > course I need a mac for that. Having hardly used a mac, I'm just > wondering how the stability compares to Windows XP. I heard rumors > of freezes with mac G5. Anyone want to comment on this? What about > the G4? Is it an OS problem? Well i definitely wouldn't go for a G4 right now unless you absolutely need OS9 for something. Lots of problems with dual boot MDDs, Logic and various VSTis. Regards Michael Telle

I don't know about dual G4s, but I can tell you that I've just ordered a dual 1.8 G5 to replace my single 733 G4. The G4 in Panther worked for some things, but was limited, and was plagued with pops, clicks and chatters on anything resource-hungry like Absynth or SampleTank, and even with some ESX samples. Chameleon simply crashed. So I wouldn't recommend a G4 at all. James

I've got a Dual 1.8gHz G5 with Logic 6 Pro. I have no problems with any glitches with this setup If people are experience freezes on their Macs with Logic 6 Pro or FCP HD it has nothing to do with compatiblity, and everything to do with setup, and minimum system requirements or a hardware issue. Some of the G5's do have hardware problems, but Logic does not cause freezes on a G5 Mac. They are just starting to replace faulty G5's. Mine included. Seems there is a problem with the front I/O ports firewire and USB 2.0. Not on all of them but some. I opted to have my new G5 built in the USA and not CHINA. Apple is assembling my replacement in the USA. If you do get a G5 for Logic or FCP HD you need to make sure that everything works properly before accepting it. It's taken Apple 9 weeks and approximately 250 hours of phone support to get them to take responsibilty of their product. There is nothing that can compare to a properly tuned Mac. If your Mac is working properly whe you buy it, it's awesome! If your Mac doesn't work properly when you purchase it, then it's a nightmare!!!!!! _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win 1 of 4,000 free domain names from Yahoo! Enter now. http://promotions.yahoo.com/goldrush

--- James Irelan <james@...> wrote: > I don't know about dual G4s, but I can tell you that > I've just ordered > a dual 1.8 G5 to replace my single 733 G4. The G4 > in Panther worked > for some things, but was limited, and was plagued > with pops, clicks and > chatters on anything resource-hungry like Absynth or > SampleTank, and > even with some ESX samples. Chameleon simply > crashed. So I wouldn't > recommend a G4 at all. > > James > > Hello, I just went through 9 weeks of hell with Apple Computers with my G5 1.8 Dual. The front ports on a few of these G5's are faulty and if you don't test them as soon as you get your G5 you may never know what the problem is. I would do a series of test when you get it, because what I've just been through with Apple is inexcusable in my business. Apple just opted for a replacement computer last Thursday after 9 weeks of glitches and about 250 hours of phone support. G5's are great computers when they work. Who did you order your G5 through? I would call your sales rep from the company that you purchased from and make them aware of this possible problem so you don't get stuck. It's just a suggestion. Your G5 could be okay, but it's just preventative maintenance. Good Luck! I hope you get a trouble free G5! Marten Benatar

> > > Who did you order your G5 through? > Martin, I bought a refurb from the Apple site. Fingers crossed. James

On Sunday, September 5, 2004, at 05:12 PM, Marten Benatar wrote: > Marten, Sorry, just noticed I misspelled your name. James

> I would do a series of test when > you get it, I forgot to ask: how did you test? James

On Sep 5, 2004, at 5:12 PM, Marten Benatar wrote: > --- James Irelan <james@...> wrote: > >> I don't know about dual G4s, but I can tell you that >> I've just ordered >> a dual 1.8 G5 to replace my single 733 G4. >> >> James > I just went through 9 weeks of hell with Apple > Computers with my G5 1.8 Dual. The front ports on a > few of these G5's are faulty and if you don't test > them as soon as you get your G5 you may never know > what the problem is. > G5's are great computers when they work. Not a single issue here, other than I had to reinstall the system when I first got it. My Dual .18. has been the least problematic Mac I've had in the last 4 I've owned over the last 7 years... George ________________________________________________________ A Member of the Apple Consultants Network (ACN) www.utopiaparkwaymusic.com Now both Mac OSX and Windows XP... the only way to fly ;-) Buy the new CSi Logic Pro Starter Training CD http://store.yahoo.com/cgi-bin/clink?muskalipman+MU3Us5+1592004784.html

"Anthony Lombardi" <tonylombardi@s...> wrote: > I have Logic 5.5.1 on pc, and was thinking of upgrading to Pro 6. Of > course I need a mac for that. Having hardly used a mac, I'm just > wondering how the stability compares to Windows XP. I heard rumors > of freezes with mac G5. Anyone want to comment on this? What about > the G4? Is it an OS problem? I have a dual 2.5 g5 and logic pro 6. things are working quite well and i have experienced no freezes or abnormal noise. seems very solid so far.

>>I have Logic 5.5.1 on pc, and was thinking of upgrading to Pro 6. Of >>course I need a mac for that. Having hardly used a mac, I'm just >>wondering how the stability compares to Windows XP. I heard rumors >>of freezes with mac G5. Anyone want to comment on this? What about >>the G4? Is it an OS problem? >Well i definitely wouldn't go for a G4 right now unless you absolutely >need OS9 for something. Lots of problems with dual boot MDDs, Logic and >various VSTis. i have a g4 power book and os9 performance pretty much sux. freezez pretty consistantly. I was wondering how the hell the old mac veterans put up with this or get anything done. OSX on the other hand never crashes. logic will but not the OS

> > Who did you order your G5 through? > > > > Martin, > > I bought a refurb from the Apple site. Fingers > crossed. James, That's even a better reason to make sure you are getting a glitchless G5.

> Sorry, just noticed I misspelled your name. > > James James, It happens all the time. Not a problem Test doing all you capture through your front firewire port. Import some stills with a digital camera through your front USB port also. Don't purchase any third party ram. That is a biggie. Apple's ram is far superior and Apple doesn't support using third party ram either. I'm sure you'll be fine, but it's a safe bet to do a little testing anyway.

Marten Benatar <mjben28@...> wrote: : : Test doing all you capture through your front firewire : port. Import some stills with a digital camera through : your front USB port also. Don't purchase any third : party ram. That is a biggie. Apple's ram is far : superior and Apple doesn't support using third party : ram either. Well, Apple doesn't make ram, but you're right that you can be confident about compatibility if you use the ram that Apple ships. That said, I've had pretty good luck with Crucial memory in Macs for quite a bit less money than Apple charges. -- agreenbu @ nyx . net andrew michael greenburg

Thanks for all the replies guys. I guess a G4 isn't a good idea then. I was hoping I could save money that way. I've already invested in a 3 PC setup since I do orchestral stuff, so I probably won't be going the mac route soon. Maybe I'll wait to see what Logic 7 has. I assume I'll be able to upgrade from 5 to 7. Or does Emagic have a screwy update policy? Anthony Lombardi www.anthonylombardi.com

"Anthony Lombardi" <tonylombardi@s...> wrote: > I assume I'll be able to upgrade from 5 to 7. Or does Emagic have > a screwy update policy? FWIW, I updated my LAWP 5.5.1 to Logic Pro in March, and was able to authorise all the extra plug ins to be used on both platforms, my experience of their upgrade policy I would not describe as "screwy". As to whether LAW 5 can be upgraded directly to 7, we have to wait and see. If you want to be certain, upgrade to Pro now. kind regards Mark Cahill

on 9/6/04 11:56 PM, amgmamgma at agreenbu@... wrote: > Well, Apple doesn't make ram, but you're right that you can be confident > about compatibility if you use the ram that Apple ships. That said, I've > had pretty good luck with Crucial memory in Macs for quite a bit less > money than Apple charges. I'm going to need to buy some ram for my new G5 dual 2ghz. I don't want to go with apple's, so I am thinking that kingston Ram seems to be the best memory to my knowledge. I have heard that they work nicely with macs. I would like to hear some experience from this group though. Is Kingston a good choice? Or should I drop the cash and just get apple ram. Thanks, Jason ------------------- jason-greenberg.com -------------------