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From: Paul Kavicky <pounceinternational@...>
Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2004 at 8:52:39 AM
Subject: external mixer or mix in logic?
Message #164636
> > I have 5 instruments (ie 10 analogue outputs) that I use with logic. > Is it easier to put them through an external mixer with groups or > busses to each of 6 inputs on the sound card, or to have a soundcard > that I can put them all into separately and do the mixing in logic? > > What are the advantages and disadvantages of each method? > sonics, ergonomics, and workflow are all affected by this. i strongly prefer having an external mixer. i also have many inputs into the computer available to me to give me an optimum amount of routing options. i appreciate that flexibility. it allows me to more easily integrate outboard gear. i happen to believe a daw is part of a pro studio, but it isn't the whole studio. integration of real outboard gear is part of my working method. this is a often talked about subject that covers everything from sonics to workflow to routing to mix recall. i'd look into threads about this subject on places like prosoundweb as the subject gets well hashed out there. there are strong opinions on this and it merits looking in to. however, you have more things to consider on this topic than what you've posted so far. assesments of the audio summing in logic and the convenience of it's mix automation are germane. cheers, paul pounce international / marsh keyboard forum moderator http://marsh.prosoundweb.com/
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From: Per Boysen <per@...>
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2004 at 7:44:52 AM
Subject: Retrospective Recording
Message #164670
This is a reply to #164636.
I can't get the feature "Capture last take as recording" to work with audio. With midi it's working fine here. Can someone enlighten me about this - is it a midi only feature? All the best Per Boysen --- http://www.boysen.se http://www.looproom.com
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From: "John Pitcairn" <johnp@...>
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2004 at 8:27:39 AM
Subject: Re: Retrospective Recording
Message #164671
This is a reply to #164670.
--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, Per Boysen <per@b...> wrote: > I can't get the feature "Capture last take as recording" to work > with audio. With midi it's working fine here. Can someone enlighten > me about this - is it a midi only feature? Yes - otherwise you'd have to be invisibly recording in the background on every audio track, to magically capture it after the fact. Ouch. With midi, by comparison, it's a very low-overhead operation to maintain a realtime record buffer as midi data comes in. But you can achieve this for audio by activating "punch on the fly". Any record-enabled audio tracks will then be invisibly recording while in play - you don't need to press record. To "capture" the take at any time, hit "record toggle" while still playing. You'll be able to drag the recorded region boundaries right back to where you started playing. Added bonus - you can select other tracks (including midi tracks) while doing this and it won't glitch the recording. You must have an audio track selected when starting playback (any audio track will do, doesn't have to be record-enabled), and when record-toggling to capture. In between, you can select whatever you want. John Pitcairn ------------------------------------------------------------- Logic Control emulation for generic midi controllers: LC Xmu demo: http://www.opuslocus.com/lcxmu/ -------------------------------------------------------------
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From: "markdvc2002" <mark@...>
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2004 at 8:28:35 AM
Subject: Re: Retrospective Recording
Message #164672
This is a reply to #164670.
--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, Per Boysen <per@b...> wrote: > I can't get the feature "Capture last take as recording" to work with > audio. With midi it's working fine here. Can someone enlighten me about > this - is it a midi only feature? Yes, I believe this works with midi only. kind regards Mark Cahill
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From: "f-erenc szabo" <zerobeat@...>
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2004 at 8:31:27 AM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Retrospective Recording
Message #164673
This is a reply to #164670.
Per Boysen <per@...> writes: I can't get the feature "Capture last take as recording" to work with audio. With midi it's working fine here. This is only a MIDI feature. I think I remember a method for capturing audio: You must be in QuickPunch mode. The premise of QuickPunch mode is that the drive is always capturing audio in preparation for the instant you hit RECORD, so there's no gap upon the punch-in point. So let's say you are playing Logic and then you hit stop. But there is audio that you intended to be recorded at a the record-armed track. I think you just hit pause and then record. Then you will see a tiny audio region. You simply pull back the region boundary all the way to the start of the last time you pressed play. I have no clue if this will work.... it's merely from memory and I'm not in front of Logic now. I've never tried it, because i ALWAYS use record mode when any audio tracks are record armed. There is no "waste" of resources when you record disposable audio. It's too easy to delete garbage takes to NOT record them. Plus, it means I never have to toggle between Input Monitor and Auto Monitor.... I am always on Auto Monitor. f-erenc szabo, smarty pants Z+E+R+O+B+E+A+T "NOW POWERED BY THE MIRACLE OF THE TRANSISTOR!" <http://home.goodmedia.com/~zerobeat>
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From: Per Boysen <per@...>
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2004 at 8:57:19 AM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Re: Retrospective Recording
Message #164674
This is a reply to #164671.
On 2004-06-08, at 15.27, John Pitcairn wrote: > --- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, Per Boysen <per@b...> wrote: >> I can't get the feature "Capture last take as recording" to work >> with audio. With midi it's working fine here. Can someone enlighten >> me about this - is it a midi only feature? > > Yes - otherwise you'd have to be invisibly recording in the background > But you can achieve this for audio by activating "punch on the fly". Ah, yes. That's what I was looking for. Thanks John and f-erenc for quick and excellent answers. All the best Per Boysen --- http://www.boysen.se http://www.looproom.com
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From: "f-erenc szabo" <zerobeat@...>
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2004 at 1:07:11 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Retrospective Recording
Message #164676
This is a reply to #164671.
"John Pitcairn" <johnp@...> writes: >you can achieve this for audio by activating "punch on the fly". >Any record-enabled audio tracks will then be invisibly recording while >in play - you don't need to press record. To "capture" the take at any >time, hit "record toggle" while still playing. You'll be able to drag >the recorded region boundaries right back to where you started playing. > >Added bonus - you can select other tracks (including midi tracks) >while doing this and it won't glitch the recording. You must have an >audio track selected when starting playback (any audio track will do, >doesn't have to be record-enabled), and when record-toggling to >capture. In between, you can select whatever you want. Damn, I learn something every year. This is great. Being able to select other tracks while "recording" is an excellent reason to change my recording methods to this. Geez, it all makes perfect sense too... but sometimes putting 2 or 3 obvious features together to form a new paradigm isn't obvious right away. f-erenc szabo, smarty pants Z+E+R+O+B+E+A+T "NOW POWERED BY THE MIRACLE OF THE TRANSISTOR!" <http://home.goodmedia.com/~zerobeat>
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