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From: "p8guitar" <p8guitar@...>
Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2004 at 1:10:42 PM
Subject: output=bus -> solo switch results in silence???
Message #160849
I have assigned all outputs of my arrange tracks to bus1. Bus1 is the input of several aux tracks, the output of these aux tracks are different outs of my Motu 828 mkII. When I switch a track to solo, there is no more sound at all. When I switch aux1 (connected to main out 1-2 of the Motu rsp. the speakers) to solo, too, I hear all tracks that habe bus1 as output, so no solo function is available. ?????????? Peter
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From: "darealbasoski" <mail@...>
Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2004 at 4:18:08 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] output=bus -> solo switch results in silence???
Message #160856
This is a reply to #160849.
--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, "p8guitar" <p8guitar@a...> wrote: > I have assigned all outputs of my arrange tracks to bus1. Bus1 is > the input of several aux tracks, the output of these aux tracks > are different outs of my Motu 828 mkII. When I switch a track to > solo, there is no more sound at all. When I switch aux1 (connected > to main out 1-2 of the Motu rsp. the speakers) to solo, too, I hear > all tracks that habe bus1 as output, so no solo function is > available. ?????????? ctrl-click the solo button of the output(s) your auxes are sending to. They get muted too by your solo actions. Now they don't anymore. O.
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From: <christianobermaier@...>
Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2004 at 5:26:58 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] output=bus -> solo switch results in silence???
Message #160858
This is a reply to #160849.
> I have assigned all outputs of my arrange tracks to bus1. Bus1 is the input of > several aux tracks, the output of these aux tracks are different outs of my > Motu 828 mkII. Why do you feed several outputs with the same signal ? > When I switch a track to solo, there is no more sound at all. Set the Auxes to Solo Safe by control-clicking their solo buttons. Christian -- homepage http://uk.geocities.com/christianobermaier/home.htm
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From: "p8guitar" <p8guitar@...>
Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2004 at 6:08:31 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] output=bus -> solo switch results in silence???
Message #160867
This is a reply to #160858.
> > I have assigned all outputs of my arrange tracks to bus1. Bus1 is > > the input of several aux tracks, the output of these aux tracks are > >different outs of my Motu 828 mkII. > > Why do you feed several outputs with the same signal ? Because I need to route the signal from the computer to the PA with one output of the Motu and to our drummer's headphones with another output of the Motu.This saves me an additional hardware mixer. > > When I switch a track to solo, there is no more sound at all. > > Set the Auxes to Solo Safe by control-clicking their solo buttons. ok, this gives me sound, but again I hear all the signals from all tracks that have bus1 as their outs, too. So this makes no difference, there is no solo funtion. Maybe I misunderstood you: the track Iwant to hear is switched to solo, the aux that sends the signal from bus1 (which should only get the solo signal from this track) is solo safe (x in the solo button, but not yellow button). Is this the way it should be? Peter
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From: <christianobermaier@...>
Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2004 at 8:21:38 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] output=bus -> solo switch results in silence???
Message #160874
This is a reply to #160867.
>> Why do you feed several outputs with the same signal ? > > This saves me an additional hardware mixer. I understand. > Maybe I misunderstood > you: the track Iwant to hear is switched to solo, the aux that sends the > signal > from bus1 (which should only get the solo signal from this track) is solo safe > (x in the solo button, but not yellow button). Is this the way it should be? Um, yes, in theory. But you're right, it doesn't work. Christian -- homepage http://uk.geocities.com/christianobermaier/home.htm
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From: "John Pitcairn" <johnp@...>
Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2004 at 1:32:56 AM
Subject: Re: output=bus -> solo switch results in silence???
Message #160886
This is a reply to #160867.
--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, "p8guitar" <p8guitar@a...> wrote: > Is this the way it should be? No, this is an Aux bug, though whether Emagic consider it to be a bug is unknown. Stereo Auxes receiving input from Busses used as track outputs are muted by track solo. If you make the stereo Aux solo-safe then it (correctly) won't respect track solos, and you get signal from all the tracks routed to that bus, even though the non-solo-safe Bus _does_ respect the track solos, and doesn't need to be made solo-safe to route signal. You'd think that whatever the Bus hears is what the Aux will receive, but no. I guess solo hasn't been properly integrated for Auxes. But it gets weirder - a mono Aux used in the same way _will_ behave as expected, and doesn't need to be made solo-safe to receive the soloed signal. So to do what you want, use a _mono_ Aux set to use the stereo Bus as input, and your desired Output pair as output. Weirder still, even though it's a mono Aux, a full stereo stream appears to be routed to the Output, including original track panning. Bizarre... The above is in Platinum 6.3.2 on OS X - YMMV. John Pitcairn ------------------------------------------------------------- Logic Control emulation for generic midi controllers: LC Xmu demo: http://www.opuslocus.com/lcxmu/ -------------------------------------------------------------
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From: "p8guitar" <p8guitar@...>
Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2004 at 3:41:31 AM
Subject: Re: output=bus -> solo switch results in silence???
Message #160888
This is a reply to #160886.
--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, "John Pitcairn" <johnp@r...> wrote: >> But it gets weirder - a mono Aux used in the same way _will_ behave as > expected, and doesn't need to be made solo-safe to receive the soloed > signal. So to do what you want, use a _mono_ Aux set to use the stereo > Bus as input, and your desired Output pair as output. > > Weirder still, even though it's a mono Aux, a full stereo stream > appears to be routed to the Output, including original track panning. > Bizarre... > Yes, this works! :) John, you are beginning to scare me. How can you know these things that even the Pentagon doesn't know? Peter
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From: "darealbasoski" <mail@...>
Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2004 at 5:06:26 AM
Subject: Re: output=bus -> solo switch results in silence???
Message #160889
This is a reply to #160888.
> >> But it gets weirder - a mono Aux used in the same way _will_ behave as > > expected, and doesn't need to be made solo-safe to receive the soloed > > signal. So to do what you want, use a _mono_ Aux set to use the stereo > > Bus as input, and your desired Output pair as output. > > > > Weirder still, even though it's a mono Aux, a full stereo stream > > appears to be routed to the Output, including original track panning. > > Bizarre... > > > Yes, this works! :) > > John, you are beginning to scare me. How can you know these things that even > the Pentagon doesn't know? > > Peter John "Jack Bauer" Pitcairn, who doesn't know him? ;)
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From: "John Pitcairn" <johnp@...>
Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2004 at 8:19:08 AM
Subject: Re: output=bus -> solo switch results in silence???
Message #160897
This is a reply to #160888.
--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, "p8guitar" <p8guitar@a...> wrote: > John, you are beginning to scare me. How can you know these things > that even the Pentagon doesn't know? I knew I'd gotten it to work some time ago, but it took a few minutes experimentation to find it again, as I generally use RME TotalMix to mult outputs. Once found, it took longer to type a concise response (documentation, gah). John Pitcairn ------------------------------------------------------------- Logic Control emulation for generic midi controllers: LC Xmu demo: http://www.opuslocus.com/lcxmu/ -------------------------------------------------------------
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From: "John Pitcairn" <johnp@...>
Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2004 at 8:21:36 AM
Subject: Re: output=bus -> solo switch results in silence???
Message #160898
This is a reply to #160889.
--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, "darealbasoski" <mail@o...> wrote: > John "Jack Bauer" Pitcairn, who doesn't know him? At this point I must say that I really hate "24". John Pitcairn ------------------------------------------------------------- Logic Control emulation for generic midi controllers: LC Xmu demo: http://www.opuslocus.com/lcxmu/ -------------------------------------------------------------
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