Hi, You can group "regions" by "Colors" and Select them (?) no ? it can be a kind of chunks ? igor

At 11:59 Uhr +0200 01.04.2004, yael wrote: >You can group "regions" by "Colors" and Select them (?) no ? it can be a >kind of chunks ? No, because the whole point was that is also includes tempo changes and the likes. Even Vision (which I only used for about 1 year and that was 5 years ago) had this function. Cheers Hans

"yael" <yael@...> writes: >You can group "regions" by "Colors" and Select them (?) no ? it can be a >kind of chunks ? No, it doesn't even come close to the functionality required. Think of each "chunk" (or "sequence as they were called in Vision) as a complete song, each with its own local tempi, meters and markers. And they can even overlap. f-erenc szabo, smarty pants Z+E+R+O+B+E+A+T "NOW POWERED BY THE MIRACLE OF THE TRANSISTOR!" <http://home.goodmedia.com/~zerobeat>

> No, it doesn't even come close to the functionality required. > Think of each "chunk" (or "sequence as they were called in > Vision) as a complete song, each with its own local tempi, > meters and markers. And they can even overlap. Is there really no way of dragging tempo/time sig changes along with sequences? Paul -- Paul Zimmer (ZAP! - Music and Sound Design) www.zimmeraudio.com

To make it relatively short: Handling independent tempo/signature parts in Logic IMO still is one of the major shortcomings. That's why many people wish for some sort of "conductor track" so much. And while you can copy tempo/signature events in the appropriate editors, it's still no fun at all doing such things when arranging a song with complexed individual parts (just imagine something using 3 bars of 4/4 and one bar of 7/8, I just had to deal with such a song, fortunately it had no tempo changes...). A reasonable conductor track could perhaps cure all of those problems. Alternatively, when copying things one could just be asked (just as with track automation) whether one would like to copy the signature/tempo information along with the part as well. Anyways, just because of these shortcomings I often do not care about proper time signatures but just "copy by grid" - this at least works as long as there's no tempo changes. Sascha

> You can group "regions" by "Colors" and Select them (?) no ? > it can be a kind of chunks ? No. People. Logic doesn't have Chunks or anything like it. If you have ever used DP Chunks to their fullest..you know that nothing even remotely close can be done in Logic. Just keep asking Apple to add something similar. Its way overdue. Pretty much essential for film scoring.

f-erenc writes: >> No, it doesn't even come close to the functionality required. >> Think of each "chunk" (or "sequence as they were called in >>> Vision) as a complete song, each with its own local tempi, > meters and markers. And they can even overlap. "Paul Zimmer" <paul@...> writes: >Is there really no way of dragging tempo/time sig changes > along with sequences? This has to be done separately. Even if it could be done as one "chunk", the structure of Logic still wouldn't allow overlapping timesigs/tempi/markers. f-erenc szabo, smarty pants Z+E+R+O+B+E+A+T "NOW POWERED BY THE MIRACLE OF THE TRANSISTOR!" <http://home.goodmedia.com/~zerobeat>