Hi Jack Heitzer and the users I answer to your question: "Is there a way to notate the following: 3 quarter triplet notes of which the last is devided into 2 8-triplets. So: quarter triplet, quarter triplet, 8th triplet, 8-triplet, all under one bracket." Not really, but almost: enter a quarter triplet (1/6) note with the mouse from the partbox enter the sign n-tuplet from the same partbox. Put it over the note a menu appears which you fill as 6 : 4 /8 and click in "allow for double value. Now you get a sign 6-tuplet with the place for 4 sextuplet left. select the value 1/6 by pressing key [a] then key [e]. in your transport you should now see a value of 1/6 Enter another sextuplet, (using your midi keyboard this time) select the value 1/12 by pressing key [s] then key [e]. In your transport you should now see a value of 1/12 Enter the two last sextuplets Now you get a 1/6 a 1/6 and two 1/12under a ----6----- ideally you should have had this under a ------3------ But I do not think that Logic allows that. Also no musician will complain read your manual 13-35 and Johannes Prischl's book p73 Hope I helped best regards Daniel Schell, Composer