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From: "lugbot2000" <dj_shatterglass@...>
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2004 at 12:12:57 PM
Subject: DIY Multipressor?
Message #158299
Found this on another audio forum and wondered if it's a viable alternative to Multipressor or worth fooling with in Logic on a slow day. It never occurred to me to split out the bands using Aux sends... "...Basically you put your finished mix on stereo channel 1 - Turn the channel off but aux send it to busses 1, 2, & 3 at 0.0db - On those busses use a good EQ, like Waves Phase Linear, to filter out bass, treble, or bass and treble (crossovers could be 110hz and 6khz), then follow with a decent compressor (Waves RCL - 2:1 ratio), then enhancers/stereo imagers, etc... then a limiter, maybe Vintage Warmer/Ultramizer - Remember three of each... Then on the main output channel you want another EQ and another limiter and maybe waveshaping..."
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From: Per Boysen <per@...>
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2004 at 1:25:51 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] DIY Multipressor?
Message #158300
This is a reply to #158299.
On 04-03-02 19.12, "lugbot2000" <dj_shatterglass@...> wrote: > Found this on another audio forum and wondered if it's a viable > alternative to Multipressor or worth fooling with in Logic on a slow > day. It never occurred to me to split out the bands using Aux sends... > > "...Basically you put your finished mix on stereo channel 1 - Turn > the channel off but aux send it to busses 1, 2, & 3 at 0.0db - On > those busses use a good EQ, like Waves Phase Linear, to filter out > bass, treble, or bass and treble (crossovers could be 110hz and > 6khz), then follow with a decent compressor (Waves RCL - 2:1 ratio), > then enhancers/stereo imagers, etc... then a limiter, maybe Vintage > Warmer/Ultramizer - Remember three of each... Then on the main output > channel you want another EQ and another limiter and maybe > waveshaping..." I'm using a similar method for side chained processing of certain frequency bands. But I rather do it when mixing than on the finished mix "as mastering". I'm as puzzled as lugbot2000. Can someone see a reason for not doing stuff like this directly on the instrument channels in the first place? Best wishes Per Boysen -- www.boysen.se www.looproom.com
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From: "rob" <orbitborn@...>
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2004 at 2:19:51 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] DIY Multipressor?
Message #158311
This is a reply to #158300.
--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, Per Boysen <per@b...> wrote: > I'm as puzzled as lugbot2000. Can someone see a reason for not > doing stuff like this directly on the instrument channels in the first > place? I think the idea with a multipressor is that the combined channels, when summed have additive effects in various frequency ranges that need to be compressed differently. Low-frequency additions are especially deadly in a mix and need to be handled with different ratios than the upper and mid frequency ranges. I think the same effect can be achieved with some judicious eq'ing to prevent this waveform doubling, but finding the offending frequency can be tricky. The "analysis" feature of the new Logic Channel EQ is especially good for tracking these down. Of course an eq might change the character of a sound so it's not without peril... good luck with that! :)
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From: challam <challam@...>
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2004 at 9:41:51 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] DIY Multipressor?
Message #158410
This is a reply to #158300.
On 03/03/2004, at 6:25 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > I'm using a similar method for side chained processing of certain > frequency bands. But I rather do it when mixing than on the finished > mix "as mastering". I'm as puzzled as lugbot2000. Can someone see a > reason for not doing stuff like this directly on the instrument > channels in the first place? I'm reluctant to do this sort of drastic EQ shaping to split the audio into frequency bands because messing with EQ creates phase distortion.OK the waves Mastering bundle is not meant to but for me doesn't feel right the few times i tried setting up multiband compression.The only time i have found multiband compression usefull is in controlling unwanted frequency nodes like when the bass guitar booms a bit at 350Hz or the cymballs get trashy at 3.6kHz , a bit like a de- esser.Mostly though i havn't found a software multiband i like. Chris Hallam
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