Thanks for the tip Sascha Are there any other CC that are just on/ off controllers? What happens if all your plugins have more controllers than the 64 allocated for automation? Thanks Mat From: "Sascha Franck" <saschafranck@...> >Tip: If autofilter (or any other plugin) is the first inserted plugin and >you'd like to aurtomate the very first of it's parameters you will find the >CC to be 64. This is a bad controller for automating many things as it's an >on/off contorller since it derives from MIDI CC64 which is sustain on/off. >In that case open any "fake" plugin in an insert slot before the >to-be-automated plugin. This plugin will now "catch" CC64. Setup hyperdraw >after that. The automated plugin will now show up with some higher CC >numbers. >After that you could disable the "fake" plugin as the changes are kept once >there's data on the hyperdraw sequence.