> From: "Jules Bromley" <jules@...> >We should probably leave the argument of whether dithering from 32bit float >to 24bit fixed is advisable aside for now. >Do you happen to know Steve if Logic is or isn't applying dither within the >mixer at the output stage? I'll certainly agree that this is even more >critical for anyone bussing out 16 bit audio streams. I can't say for certain but I'm 99.9% sure that Logic would not automatically dither any of it's output stages, you wouldn't want it to. Dither should only be applied on the last stage, and only once, as when dithering from a 24 bit master to 16 final production. HW

--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, Howard Wooten <hwooten@d...> wrote: > I can't say for certain but I'm 99.9% sure that Logic would not > automatically dither any of it's output stages, you wouldn't want it > to. I wouldn't want automatic dither on outputs either. But I do on occasion miss the pre version 5 "dither" plugin, which was very useful for quick previewing a mix at 16-bit with dither, or for recording properly dithered output to 16-bit DAT, MD, DCC, sampler, etc. Are there any cheap/freeware AU bit-reduction + dither plugins out there? John Pitcairn ------------------------------------------------------------- Logic Control emulation for generic midi controllers: LC Xmu demo: http://www.opuslocus.com/lcxmu/ -------------------------------------------------------------

Hello John! Congratulate with your great work on LC Xmu. Are you planning to make a Windows version???? I'm still on PC playing with LAW 5.51 and Cubase SX 2 controlled by PCR 30 Thor Mamen

--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, "StudioTM" <StudioTM@o...> wrote: > Hello John! > Congratulate with your great work on LC Xmu. > Are you planning to make a Windows version???? Well, I've certainly considered it, though the thought of buying a PC for testing doesn't exactly fill me with joy. Unfortunately the one-time licensing fee to distribute a standalone Max app for Windows is US$1000, which on top of the cost of a PC and the work required makes it look rather uneconomic. So unless something changes, it's very unlikely to happen, sorry. John Pitcairn ------------------------------------------------------------- Logic Control emulation for generic midi controllers: LC Xmu demo: http://www.opuslocus.com/lcxmu/ -------------------------------------------------------------

"StudioTM" <StudioTM@o...> wrote: > > Hello John! > > Congratulate with your great work on LC Xmu. > > Are you planning to make a Windows version???? From: "John Pitcairn" > Well, I've certainly considered it, though the thought of buying a PC > for testing doesn't exactly fill me with joy. Unfortunately the > one-time licensing fee to distribute a standalone Max app for Windows > is US$1000, which on top of the cost of a PC and the work required > makes it look rather uneconomic. So unless something changes, it's > very unlikely to happen, sorry. Thanks for answering! I can see your point of view! I better save my money for a real Mackie Control Thor Mamen

>Dither should only be applied on the last stage, and only once, as when >dithering from a 24 bit master to 16 final production. Every instance of processing results in a longer wordlength. Dither or truncate, those are the available choices. I'll take dither. hank

> Dither or truncate, those are the available choices. What about rounding? u b i k